imported_goku
Diamond Member
My point is that I believe any decently priced system SHOULD come with much better video cards than they do now, there are too many laptops with integrated video yet command a price of $1500.
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Why is the american public disinterested in hightech gadgets?
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My point is that I believe any decently priced system SHOULD come with much better video cards than they do now, there are too many laptops with integrated video yet command a price of $1500.
SpunkyJones
Diamond Member
I only want my mobile phone to make calls. 🙁
Zenmervolt
Elite member
I can't work on a tiny screen. 1024x768 resolution is inadequate. 1280x1024 is barely passable. I don't even want to imagine trying to work on a 12" screen. Also, anything smaller than my desktop replacement ThinkPad and the keyboard is uselessly small. When it was new, I got 3 hours of battery life. That ain't too bad.
As for the cell phones, my 4 year old Motorola does everything that I would ever possibly need a phone to do, and it does several things that I will never need (text messaging, for example).
Clearly you have no idea what goes into making a computer fit into such a tiny little chassis as a laptop. They command prices of $1500 because of what they cost to develop and manufacture. We recyclers can recover a good $100 worth of materials from laptops that are five years old if we're careful and thorough - which says nothing for the cost of what is destroyed in the process of recovering those materials (which is the vast majority of the damned thing), the cost of manufacturing, and the cost of development.
Putting a better video card in requires significantly upgraded cooling these days. In a laptop, this means elaborate heatpipe designs and exotic materials - and making other things smaller, moving things around, and generally making life a bigger PITA.
imported_goku
Diamond Member
Because those things can still happen and aren't whats preventing USEFUL features from being implimented. Having at least a dedicated video card over integrated is worlds better, for one thing it reduces power consumption over using the CPU.
mercanucaribe
Banned
People are stupid. Look how many laptops they sell with 15" and 17" screens and 1280x800 resolution. It makes it nearly impossible to find a good display on a used laptop. To me there is no functional difference between a new 15" widescreen 1280x800 with onboard graphics and an old PIII with similar screen resolution and onboard graphics.
imported_goku
Diamond Member
Thankyou.
thomsbrain
Lifer
i WANT a big laptop screen. 95% of my usage is at my desk at home. i want it as fast and as big and bright as possible, and if it weighs 12 pounds (it does!), then i don't give a damn because it's still a lot smaller and more portable than a desktop. and that explains most laptop users, because let's face it: with the exception of a few college kids and police officers, nearly EVERYONE who uses a laptop uses it almost exclusively at a desk, plugged into the wall. we are not a nation that uses mass transportation, so we don't need it to be small and light and easy to pop in and out on the train on the way to work. we need it to kick ass at home and at work, and be just small enough that we can carry it between those desks and our parking places.
HomeAppraiser
Platinum Member
They are expensive, easy to break and will be obsolete or not supported in a year so why bother.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
americas basic infrastructure has been built out very well..and so basic services like phone services were so good and cheap that newer stuff was not as important. why smart phone when you can just use the internet at school/office/or home😛 its adoption was more widespread in japan where the net took longer to take off for instance.
plus, most gadgets don't make your life better. they are bug filled, not well thought out, and frankly a chore to use or maintain. just think of the tech boom and when everyone had a freakin palm pilot or visor. and you know what? many just stopped using them after a while and never bought another one. it just wasn't worth the trouble for most people for the little use they had for it. same with phones with dozens of features, doing all of them very poorly😛 most gadgets are novelty..impractical. not used enough to justify their cost or don't improve experience enough to justify the effort. like...remember theyw wanted people to scan ads with a que cat bar code reader instead of typing in a freakin website? gah...loada crud.
for what? his complaint doesn't make much sense since used laptops are bad value anyways. lithium ion batteries cost a lot, and have limited shelflife regardless of use. everything on a laptop goes through stress..banging around during normal usage, if something breaks, it might cost more to repair than its worth. finding parts like keyboard or other bits that have wear on em...not fun. new laptops on sale cost just a couple hundred anyways.
plus, most gadgets don't make your life better. they are bug filled, not well thought out, and frankly a chore to use or maintain. just think of the tech boom and when everyone had a freakin palm pilot or visor. and you know what? many just stopped using them after a while and never bought another one. it just wasn't worth the trouble for most people for the little use they had for it. same with phones with dozens of features, doing all of them very poorly😛 most gadgets are novelty..impractical. not used enough to justify their cost or don't improve experience enough to justify the effort. like...remember theyw wanted people to scan ads with a que cat bar code reader instead of typing in a freakin website? gah...loada crud.
for what? his complaint doesn't make much sense since used laptops are bad value anyways. lithium ion batteries cost a lot, and have limited shelflife regardless of use. everything on a laptop goes through stress..banging around during normal usage, if something breaks, it might cost more to repair than its worth. finding parts like keyboard or other bits that have wear on em...not fun. new laptops on sale cost just a couple hundred anyways.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
well i wouldn't say that. apple isjust starting to dominate the japanese market. course itunes was held back there but still. i don't see how people putting up with junk like ld and md shows being comfortable with design ease of use and simplicity. thats high toleration for bullsh*t really.
right...what amazing feature do these phones have? 1ghz processors that run seti to keep you warm at night? its a freakin phone. all i care about is size and battery life..and that its not too hideous.
and it also depends on living enviroment. lots of those asian countries are places packed like sardines. people buy stuff to compensate for their lousy living conditions.
and well new is not always better, most of the time its just companies trying to stick their hands in your wallet again by creating a need that doesn't really exist.
coolVariable
Diamond Member
The OP gets my vote for moron of the year.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
yup, subnotebooks are definetly not 15". 10-12" maybe. they've been out for years, but they cost more and have saacrifices for their size. being that they aren't pocket sized and one still has to use a bag or backpack/suit case, the extra portability is err not really there. it gets handled in daily use about the way you'd handle a normal notebook, just with more cramps and stuff from tiny screen and kb. its size doesn't justify the sacrifice. its novelty for most.
0roo0roo
No Lifer
yup, i like cia factbook and how it gives relative sizes of countries compared to our states.
like south korea slightly larger than Indiana
japan is slightly smaller than california
united kingdom slightly smaller than Oregon (mentioned bitterly in a spooks eps)😀
germany slightly smaller than Montana
hong kong six times the size of Washington, DC
taiwan slightly smaller than Maryland and Delaware combined
alphatarget1
Diamond Member
it's more expensive to talk than to text someone in Europe... IMO.
imported_goku
Diamond Member
You act like because it's new, it's automatically better even though it's a cheap POS. A used HIGH QUALITY laptop should NOT break and shouldn't be an issue while a cheap new laptop CAN BREAK and CAN be an issue. So what li-on batteries are expensive, what you think you're getting a discount by getting those batteries with that new elcheapo laptop? HELL NO! The elcheapo laptops have such pisspoor battery life not only because they're 3cell/4cell etc.. but because they're designed to be CHEAP and not efficient. So if the new laptop breaks what happens? If it's a cheap POS and you have no warranty/expired then it's more money to repair than it's work (at least with your philosphy), so how is this any different with a 3 year old Pentium M laptop that is used? 😕
New POS laptops on sale aren't worth it IMO because of the fact that quality was clearly not a factor in producing the product and probably lack in features that really matter but instead are filled with nonsensical crap like grossly overpower processors with horrid power management. (Celeron) The casing is piss poor and creaks and flexes continuously (Dell 600m, which isn't exactly a 'cheap computer' when it was made, nonetheless is crap) causing it to eventually fail. Laptop motherboard and processor overheating and failing and possibly catching fire, all because of shoddy workmanship JUST so it could be CHEAP.
imported_goku
Diamond Member
No, it' just that my lifestyle has changed since I got my second and third laptops. One concern I had was that I was going to get another laptop with 1024X768 resolution which is friggen small. I'm still happy with my T42 and probably won't get rid of it until it dies but it's likely that the next laptop I get will likely get smaller. It's quite possible that I'll change my mind AGIAN and realize a small computer is PITA to use, we'll see.
imported_goku
Diamond Member
Quality > Quantity
homestarmy
Diamond Member
Research the Diffusion of Innovations. It will layout the framework as to why adoptions such as these are not accepted so readily.
I'm guessing it's mostly to do with prices.
Otherwise, why are Dell so up in front? A couple of my friends have Dells, and those things have the cheapest build qualities ever. Compared to my Sony, those things are really flimsy, and crappily built, but maybe it's because they were from Dell UK, I don't know.
Most people in the US like to pay the cheapest they can, and still have functionality.
And what is with you guys using clamshell phones? Those things are SOOOO old. Europe has a much better collection of phones, and how much of them are actually clamshell design? Hardly any.
Otherwise, why are Dell so up in front? A couple of my friends have Dells, and those things have the cheapest build qualities ever. Compared to my Sony, those things are really flimsy, and crappily built, but maybe it's because they were from Dell UK, I don't know.
Most people in the US like to pay the cheapest they can, and still have functionality.
And what is with you guys using clamshell phones? Those things are SOOOO old. Europe has a much better collection of phones, and how much of them are actually clamshell design? Hardly any.
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