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Why is the 6800 Ultra not available in PCI Express yet?

because they barely have enough chips to supply to the AGP8x demand let alone the much much smaller PCI-E (not PCI-X which is something completely different) group

intel are the only ones with pci-e and im willing to bet that most avid gamers have athlon systems. which dont use pci-e. either way pci-3 is a minority at the moment, and the graphics chip makers cant even supply enough to satisfy the majority yet
 
Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
because they barely have enough chips to supply to the AGP8x demand let alone the much much smaller PCI-E (not PCI-X which is something completely different) group
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Any new chipsets that supporst PCI-e will up the demand. The fact that there's only P4 support and on very few chipsets (is it more than just intels one now?) it all results in fewer systems that can support PCI-e.
 
I think the 6600 series is available in PCI-E. I am surprised the 6800 series, particularly the GT and Ultra models, have no PCI-E versions available since it seems that nVidia will be releasing their "nForce 4" motherboards this month, most of which support PCI-E and even SLI. Most of the nForce 4 boards, like the 6800GT/Ultra cards, are aimed at the "enthusiast" market so it would seem logical that nVidia would have more PCI-E version cards available for the nForce 4 launch.

Personally, I've been waiting for the new nForce 4 board to upgrade my system from the nForce 2 I have now, and would have liked to upgrade to the 6800GT PCI-E at the same time. It looks like I'm going to have to wait a little longer.
 
Maybe they have some revisions or something that they are wanting to introduce on the Ultra.

I know there's been issues with power consumption of PCI Express cards using that new 6-pin conector, maybe that has something to do with it.

Also, didn't AT report about the first PCI-Exp 6800 card would be using their NV45 core?
 
First off, why is everyone right now so enamored to get PCI-E motherboards and video cards. Don't you know there is NO inherent performance boost right now or even in years to come, not counting the performance boost from reduced latency? look, games, or applications right NOW can't even match the bandwith of 4x AGP let alone 8x AGP. They aren't even in development yet to max it out.

Think of it this way... you got a trickle going down a garden hose. The trickle is game information. The garden hose is the 8x AGP bus. By switching to PCI-E you are essentially changing from a garden hose to a fireman's hose. However, you still only have a TRICKLE!

I wouldn't worry about PCI-E for years yet. When games start to finally actually make even *some* use of that bandwith, then switch. I don't really forsee this happening for at least 3-5 more YEARS. By then, it'll be standard and dirt cheap on everything.

If you are looking for a good video card, get what is good NOW. An 8x AGP 6800 Ultra will handle anything out there now and for years to come. In 3-5 years you can get a PCI-E card when games finally make use of it.
 
I think most people actually do know theres no performance boost but let me tell yoiu what. Main feature is SLI. AGP cannot do that.
 
Originally posted by: Yanagi
I think most people actually do know theres no performance boost but let me tell yoiu what. Main feature is SLI. AGP cannot do that.
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I don't believe there is a board readily available yet that can do SLI though. Therefore, shouldn't demand be nil using that logic?
 
Originally posted by: HumblePie
First off, why is everyone right now so enamored to get PCI-E motherboards and video cards. Don't you know there is NO inherent performance boost right now or even in years to come, not counting the performance boost from reduced latency? look, games, or applications right NOW can't even match the bandwith of 4x AGP let alone 8x AGP. They aren't even in development yet to max it out.

Think of it this way... you got a trickle going down a garden hose. The trickle is game information. The garden hose is the 8x AGP bus. By switching to PCI-E you are essentially changing from a garden hose to a fireman's hose. However, you still only have a TRICKLE!

I wouldn't worry about PCI-E for years yet. When games start to finally actually make even *some* use of that bandwith, then switch. I don't really forsee this happening for at least 3-5 more YEARS. By then, it'll be standard and dirt cheap on everything.

If you are looking for a good video card, get what is good NOW. An 8x AGP 6800 Ultra will handle anything out there now and for years to come. In 3-5 years you can get a PCI-E card when games finally make use of it.
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I think some people don't want to spend money on a technology that will be going away relatively soon. I'm in the process of building a new system and I would rather go with the newer technology rather than the 478 based chipsets because if I only want to replace my CPU two years from now I would have a better chance of doing so.

 
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