why is sub-sahara so bad?

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zzuupp

zzuupp

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Apparently, you've never seen or read, "Guns, Germs, and Steel"
 
lupi

lupi

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understand who lives there and you'll have your answer.


Please keep your crude racism to yourself. There is no place for it on these forums.

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Dr. Zaus

Dr. Zaus

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Ghiddy said:
understand who lives there and you'll have your answer.
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Quoted for racism.
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Quoted for Quoting for racism when there is no racism in the quote, but racism in quoting for racism.

Also, in this order:
Water : it kills too many children (apx 5k/day)
Government: Its too corrupt and has bankrupted the countries with IMF loans (see economic hit man)
Anarchy: the above has lead to the lack of a proper Hobs-level leviathan to allow for civil/legal damages, instaead murder and tribalism must reign
Desease: a lack of technological advancement or useful trade skill because of all of the above has caused major problems in advancing health, thus changing the calculus on what a useful investment in human capital means.

In one swoop the place disproves the value of communism, anarchy and totalitarian corporatism. In the end a moderate place between all three is the best path for social advancement we’ve ever found on earth.
 
BoomerD

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There's your answer...sub-Saharan Africa is made up of very poor, third-world countries that have nearly zero medical care, terrible water quality and availability, is ruled by maniacal dictators and warlords who don't give two-shits about human life...except their own.
Dude...it's Africa. No one cares about Africa...not even the Africans.
 
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Quoted for Quoting for racism when there is no racism in the quote, but racism in quoting for racism.

Also, in this order:
Water : it kills too many children (apx 5k/day)
Government: Its too corrupt and has bankrupted the countries with IMF loans (see economic hit man)
Anarchy: the above has lead to the lack of a proper Hobs-level leviathan to allow for civil/legal damages, instaead murder and tribalism must reign
Desease: a lack of technological advancement or useful trade skill because of all of the above has caused major problems in advancing health, thus changing the calculus on what a useful investment in human capital means.

In one swoop the place disproves the value of communism, anarchy and totalitarian corporatism. In the end a moderate place between all three is the best path for social advancement we’ve ever found on earth.
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Right. I'm sure the dude I quoted meant everything you just typed, and wasn't talking about race at all.

EDIT: Me calling out someone for racism doesn't make me a racist. Even if I were wrong, calling me a racist for it is a total non sequitur.
 
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lupi

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For the non-intelligent schmucks that reported me for some bogus racism crap, feel free to read some history material before talking out of you ass again.
 
preslove

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European colonial powers did a number on Africa. Basically, they just carved up the place into colonies, and those colonies became countries after struggles for independence. Thing is, those new countries usually had no real cultural, historical, or linguistic foundations to build a nation on. This was very, very bad because it led to a great many nasty wars & civil wars.

Add to that the fact that the societies that had evolved before the Europeans got there had been systematically eradicated, and what was left was usually a governmental and social structure based on exploitation by the ruling elite. Usually, the colonialists were just replaced by local elites, who just continued on exploiting the people, instead of trying to build societies that actually functioned.

Europe ruined Africa.

lupi said:
For the non-intelligent schmucks that reported me for some bogus racism crap, feel free to read some history material before talking out of you ass again.
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You know fuck all about "history material," you empty headed idiot. You are too fucking stupid to understand what is racist and what isn't.
 
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ultimatebob

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From what I've heard, South Africa isn't all that bad.

Oh, and if that Pandemic Flash game taught me anything, Madagascar is the best place to live if you want to avoid dying from a global plague :)
 
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preslove said:
Thing is, those counties usually had no real cultural, historical, or linguistic foundations in to build a nation on. This was very, very bad because it led to a great many nasty wars & civil wars .
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Thats not true at all. There were several nations and states in place prior to European arrival. Check out what anthropologist consider necessary for a state or nation to exist.
 
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ShawnD1

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preslove said:
European colonial powers did a number on Africa. Basically, they just carved up the place into colonies, and those colonies became countries after struggles for independence. Thing is, those counties usually had no real cultural, historical, or linguistic foundations in to build a nation on. This was very, very bad because it led to a great many nasty wars & civil wars.
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So basically it has the same history as USA, Canada, Mexico, and all of othe other countries in north and south America. Instead of turning out like USA or Canada, it worked out more like Nicaragua or Haiti.
 
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