Why is static IP so expensive?

[lozina]

we were looking at a DSL provider web site for business packages and we find a package for up to 3 Mbps down/768 Kbps up for $40 a month but its dynamic IP. The same speeds with static IP is $80 !! Double the price just for static IP ??

What are the extra costs that they incur for assigning a static IP to justify doubling the price?

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: lozina
we were looking at a DSL provider web site for business packages and we find a package for up to 3 Mbps down/768 Kbps up for $40 a month but its dynamic IP. The same speeds with static IP is $80 !! Double the price just for static IP ??

What are the extra costs that they incur for assigning a static IP to justify doubling the price?

they can't assign it to anyone else. that ip is always in use, therefore they lose one that they can't use anymore.

 

[tweakmm]

Because businesses will pay more for static.

Doesn't do you any good if your domain points to one address one day and another the next.

 

[SoulAssassin]

because it's easier to run server-type apps

 

[SuperNaruto]

Because there are a limited amount of IP available in the world... harder to get a nice class c now... everyone wants it..

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lozina
we were looking at a DSL provider web site for business packages and we find a package for up to 3 Mbps down/768 Kbps up for $40 a month but its dynamic IP. The same speeds with static IP is $80 !! Double the price just for static IP ??

What are the extra costs that they incur for assigning a static IP to justify doubling the price?

they can't assign it to anyone else. that ip is always in use, therefore they lose one that they can't use anymore.

But if you are always connected with your DSL router you'll be using one of their IP's all the time regardless of whether its static or dynamic

 

[Fritzo]

If you need a static IP, it means you're going to be using more traffic than a normal user (a typical user with a static IP uses 9x more bandwidth than anyone else). I sell this stuff and that's why we do it

 

[mcvickj]

I've been using Charter broadband for over four years and my IP has only changed maybe 3 times? If I remember correctly the reason it changed was because of power issues. Unless you are resetting your equipment every day this shouldn't be an issue.

Why do you need a static address? Trying to run a server from your house? Check the TOS. Most have something against that.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lozina
we were looking at a DSL provider web site for business packages and we find a package for up to 3 Mbps down/768 Kbps up for $40 a month but its dynamic IP. The same speeds with static IP is $80 !! Double the price just for static IP ??

What are the extra costs that they incur for assigning a static IP to justify doubling the price?

they can't assign it to anyone else. that ip is always in use, therefore they lose one that they can't use anymore.

But if you are always connected with your DSL router you'll be using one of their IP's all the time regardless of whether its static or dynamic

ok, so what happens if you lose power or you need to disconnect the modem or some other reason?

 

[FoBoT]

these days, it is just because they can

the technical stuff isn't really the determining factor, since they can get people to pay more for static, they do it to make more money

 

[talyn00]

You'll want a static IP is you're running something like a web server. Its a bit more effort from the ISP's side to assign and manage an IP to a person than for a dynamic solution like with DHCP. The reason why your IP doesn't seem to change if you're using DHCP is that your computer requests to use the same IP it previously had, and it will usually be granted that request unless someone has already taken it.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: mcvickj
Why do you need a static address? Trying to run a server from your house? Check the TOS. Most have something against that.

While every service provider TOS is different, I'm pretty that the TOS for a business connection package with static IP allows servers.

 

[Baked]

Because then I'll be able to hack you easily.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lozina
we were looking at a DSL provider web site for business packages and we find a package for up to 3 Mbps down/768 Kbps up for $40 a month but its dynamic IP. The same speeds with static IP is $80 !! Double the price just for static IP ??

What are the extra costs that they incur for assigning a static IP to justify doubling the price?

they can't assign it to anyone else. that ip is always in use, therefore they lose one that they can't use anymore.

But if you are always connected with your DSL router you'll be using one of their IP's all the time regardless of whether its static or dynamic

ok, so what happens if you lose power or you need to disconnect the modem or some other reason?

You'll get another one of their IPs.

Too bad it's not like getting a car. A company has limited cars to rent out just like ISPs have limited IPs. But if you rent a car for a short time it's alot more expensive than leasing a car.

 

[Legendary]

Because 1. they can and 2. you're renting your own personal section of the internet...sure it's just roughly 1/(256^4)th of it (minus the dedicated IPs like 192. and 10. and 255.), but hey, you can still call it your own.

 

[mcvickj]

Originally posted by: tweakmm

Originally posted by: mcvickj
Why do you need a static address? Trying to run a server from your house? Check the TOS. Most have something against that.

While every service provider TOS is different, I'm prettyp that the TOS for a business connection package with static IP allows servers.

Woops. I just reread the OP and he did mention the business package. My bad.

I was making the reference to the home user packages. I should have made that more clear.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: lozina
we were looking at a DSL provider web site for business packages and we find a package for up to 3 Mbps down/768 Kbps up for $40 a month but its dynamic IP. The same speeds with static IP is $80 !! Double the price just for static IP ??

What are the extra costs that they incur for assigning a static IP to justify doubling the price?

What provider are you looking at? I have our remote jobsites setup with DSL & at least 2 static IPs (video conference & webcam) and I generally got it for ~$50.

 

[Alex]

i always wondered that too....
i had the same cable provider at home and at work for a while and it was ridiculous...

at home i had dynamic ip 4mbps up/down for 99 bucks (Brazilian currency) and at work we had a static 600kbps up/down link that cost R$250

and to make matters worse i've had the same IP for about 3 months at home.... its "dynamic" but hasn't EVER changed... what a crock!

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lozina
we were looking at a DSL provider web site for business packages and we find a package for up to 3 Mbps down/768 Kbps up for $40 a month but its dynamic IP. The same speeds with static IP is $80 !! Double the price just for static IP ??

What are the extra costs that they incur for assigning a static IP to justify doubling the price?

they can't assign it to anyone else. that ip is always in use, therefore they lose one that they can't use anymore.

But if you are always connected with your DSL router you'll be using one of their IP's all the time regardless of whether its static or dynamic

ok, so what happens if you lose power or you need to disconnect the modem or some other reason?

You'll get another one of their IPs.

Too bad it's not like getting a car. A company has limited cars to rent out just like ISPs have limited IPs. But if you rent a car for a short time it's alot more expensive than leasing a car.

maybe you're not getting it or maybe i'm missing something.
first, why do you want a static IP? you don't need a static IP unless you're running something that requires one, like if you're running a web server.

If you run a web server, you need the static so people can find your website. doesn't do you any good if you have 215.16.173.12 today and 100.75.112.84 tomorrow. the people trying to get to your site won't be able to find it.

 

[aceO07]

They charge because they can. They know you probably really want/need it and will pay for it. We have an internet connection in the office and we're allowed 5 free static IPs. We probably pay more than that $80 though.

You can use dynamic ip dns services if you don't really need it that badly or are cheap. I do that at home and my router handles everything when I get a new IP.

 

[mugs]

I remember when I had a free static IP address with my dialup account.

Then the Internet was flooded with clueless people and there aren't enough to go around.


I'm guessing Fritzo's answer is correct (because users with static IPs use more bandwidth). Buying an additional IP address from a web host doesn't cost nearly as much, because they expect you to use a lot of bandwidth anyway.

 

[drinkmorejava]

Because they're a valuable commodity
Once IPv6 is implemented, they won't be, but till then, deal with it. And to think I get a free one for paying $40k a year to go to RPI.

 

[newParadigm]

Originally posted by: tweakmm
Because businesses will pay more for static.

Doesn't do you any good if your domain points to one address one day and another the next.

Just use DynDNS? OTOH, RoadRunner charges me an additional $5 a month for static, and I thought that was expensive.

 

[fitzov]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: lozina
we were looking at a DSL provider web site for business packages and we find a package for up to 3 Mbps down/768 Kbps up for $40 a month but its dynamic IP. The same speeds with static IP is $80 !! Double the price just for static IP ??

What are the extra costs that they incur for assigning a static IP to justify doubling the price?

they can't assign it to anyone else. that ip is always in use, therefore they lose one that they can't use anymore.

But if you are always connected with your DSL router you'll be using one of their IP's all the time regardless of whether its static or dynamic

You're trying to apply rationality to a business. Like someone else said, if you need a static IP, you're going to be using your machine as a server, that means more traffic. There are ways around the problem of having a dynamic IP, of course, last time I checked, no-IP was still a free service.

 

[txrandom]

My static IP cost 5 bucks more.