Why is Scarface championed as the best gangster flick?

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ivol07

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I agree. When I watched it I couldn't understand why so many people thought a movie about a drug addict was so great. I would rather watch Casino than Scarface any day.
 

Al Neri

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::looks both ways:: scarface is championed as the best gangster flick?

better movies:
casino
goodfellas
godfather i
godfather ii
once upon a time in america
carlito's way (sorta)
gangs of new york (sorta)
billy bathgate

that's just off the cuff.

scarface is a decent movie, wayyy too long ( with once upon a time in america considered )
 

Jeeebus

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The best scene in scarface is when Inigo Montoya fwcks up that dude that killed his father...
 

torpid

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It isn't. How does your brain go from seeing a scarface t-shirt to assuming that person thinks it is the best gangster flick? Even a person wearing a sarface t-shirt might just really enjoy the movie even if they don't think it's the best gangster movie. Believe it or not people can wear t-shirts and say they love a movie without "championing" it as "the best" ganster flick.
 

JackBurton

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Originally posted by: ivol07
I agree. When I watched it I couldn't understand why so many people thought a movie about a drug addict was so great. I would rather watch Casino than Scarface any day.
Casino is just "Goodfellas go to Vegas."
 

IceBergSLiM

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your confusing mafia with gangster i think.

good fellas/ godfather = italian mafia old school blood oaths, family ties etc

gangster = anyone of any descent
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: Colt45
Gangstas like it because tony montana comes from nothing and builds an empire. Although they seem to neglect the fact he dies...

:thumbsup: The thugs all think they can do the same. :thumbsdown:

Scarface is a mediocre film.
 

iversonyin

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Scarface got everyone pushing drugs. Scarface is also an ambitious character. Someone everyone can relate to
 

Sunner

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I love Sarface, Goodfellas, and Casino, but I'd also rate them in that order(Scarface being the best) if I had to rate them against each other :)

Also, seriously, overrated or not, how can ANYONE put Gangs of New York above Scarface?
 

BD231

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Feb 26, 2001
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Originally posted by: torpid
It isn't. How does your brain go from seeing a scarface t-shirt to assuming that person thinks it is the best gangster flick? Even a person wearing a sarface t-shirt might just really enjoy the movie even if they don't think it's the best gangster movie. Believe it or not people can wear t-shirts and say they love a movie without "championing" it as "the best" ganster flick.

In addition, how the hell can any of you know if a person entirely ignores the lesson of Tony Montana dying just because they're wearing a T-Shirt????

They could just as well be wearing the shirt for the *ENTIRE* point of the movie, and not just the fact that dude Montana was involved in the pentacle of illegal success. Guns, drugs, money, sex and drama, that's what Tony Montana was about. Unfortuneately, that's what a lot of the hood rasied are about, so they choose to show it.

Every ghetto mall is filled with T-Shirts that have an unimportant figure showboated on the front of it. Thugs who've not made it choose to look different in a cost effective way, chicks love it so it's also an easy way to get laid.

The Corleones were 10 time the ideal gangster that Tony Montana was; Michael Corleone was plotting, cold, and remained classy all the while. If you're going to be a "gangsta", why not idolize the best?

Gun play and action. I was out in Richmond at a *pimps ball* on new years eve and guns were goin off like crazy *everywhere* by 11 o'clock. Just the way they live boie, Tony Montana was a solo thug. The Corleones were class act screw ups, square ass white people gone bad. That's not what a thug wants to represent.
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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Is it wrong for someone to like Scarface? It's more merchandisable than the other movies, so why do you equate that as being the ultimate gangster flick? Let's think, would you rather have a poster of Al Pacino... or of Ray Liotta? Gee, that's a no-brainer. And someone mentions Gangs of New York, are you kidding me? You think DiCaprio is merchandisable to those who like ganster movies?

They're all good movies (except Gangs of New York, I really didn't like that movie at all). If you find some offense and must debate to the very minute detail which movie is a micro-fraction better than the other - then I guess go ahead and make your pointless arguements.
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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Originally posted by: jjones
Scarface sucks. Unbelievable, over-the-top, garbage. There's at least 50 or so better gangster flicks.
I'm calling you out on this.

Name 50 ganster flicks you think are better than Scarface.
 

Vic

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Scarface is good but extremely overrated.

The Godfathers I & II are the best gangster/mafia films of all time (if not the best films of all time period).
Following that are Goodfellas, Casino, Carlito's Way, Donnie Brasco... with Scarface a ways down the list IMO.
 

Tom

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"Little Ceasar" is the best gangster movie ever.

"Is this the end of Rico ?"

- E.G. Robinson as Rico


The best modern gangster film is "Mean Streets".