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Why is racism against whites acceptable?
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Demon-Xanth
Lifer
Noones making them stay there. The reservations are just a place where they are exempt from many state and federal laws.
Nitemare
Lifer
that's right...where is my 40 acres and a mule?
j/k the sins of the white man were committed by white devils(part white so I can say it) on my peoples long before my time. I do not condone the Trail of Tears and feel that it was a sad time in history that one race could be so evil to another and it be accepted, quite like slavery. Yet that was then this is now, get way over it.
Someone asked about other countries.
In canada for example we have similar programs to AA. However they can and are sometimes are taken to the extreme.
For example the department of fisheries and oceans in Vancouver British Columbia is looking for a senior communications person for the region, however only visible minorities may apply. In fact one need not be canadian (though this is a government job) as long as one is part of a visible minority.
The real kicker is this, visible minorities acutally outnumber whites in the city of Vancouver and many surrouding counties.
BTW this is not out of my ass. Here is a link to the story from a local news station.
Discrimination? you decide.
In canada for example we have similar programs to AA. However they can and are sometimes are taken to the extreme.
For example the department of fisheries and oceans in Vancouver British Columbia is looking for a senior communications person for the region, however only visible minorities may apply. In fact one need not be canadian (though this is a government job) as long as one is part of a visible minority.
The real kicker is this, visible minorities acutally outnumber whites in the city of Vancouver and many surrouding counties.
BTW this is not out of my ass. Here is a link to the story from a local news station.
Discrimination? you decide.
In my personal experience, minorities take advantage of the current situation. My wife is Asian and I hang out with a lot of Asians by association. I hear them very frequently (not my wife, she isn't prejudiced) make fun of whites, blacks and hispanics. The same prejudice comments over and over. Apparently, their perceived pecking order (whether conciously made or not) is:
Whites
Asians
Blacks, hispanics, and everyone else
Now, these Asian people are doing very well for themselves. I think the very pc atmosphere that has whites apologizing left and right for old prejudice has enabled a situation in reverse of the past. Now minorities can have their associations, TV stations, and scholarships. But if there was a white-only scholarship, tv station, or association, then the NAACP would be all over it. And my Asian friends would be talking about how bad the racism problem still is against minorities. But from where I stand, I feel like a minority when I am around them. And I try my damnest not to every make any prejudice statements or anything that could be construed as prejudice. It's pretty sad 🙁
Whites
Asians
Blacks, hispanics, and everyone else
Now, these Asian people are doing very well for themselves. I think the very pc atmosphere that has whites apologizing left and right for old prejudice has enabled a situation in reverse of the past. Now minorities can have their associations, TV stations, and scholarships. But if there was a white-only scholarship, tv station, or association, then the NAACP would be all over it. And my Asian friends would be talking about how bad the racism problem still is against minorities. But from where I stand, I feel like a minority when I am around them. And I try my damnest not to every make any prejudice statements or anything that could be construed as prejudice. It's pretty sad 🙁
Forgive one another for what? How old are you? I'm 22 and as far I'm concerned most people in my generation, on both sides, haven't had anything to do with slavery, segregation, etc and on the whole aren't racist people and should just last past generations mistakes stay in the past. Lets worry about the world we're in today.
You think the above hasn't happened to whites as well? When was the last time you were subjected to slavery? Internment camp? If the answer isn't in this lifetime let it go.
Linflas
Lifer
As I understand things (I could be wrong) when treaties were negotiated (and many times broken and renegotiated) with Indians they were treated as sovereign people and the reservations technically are their "countries". I always wondered why the Indians don't push the issue to its logical conclusion and institute passports and border crossings and the like.
HarryAngel
Senior member
>>Well,
I have been living here for a while noe...
but the first thing I noticed when I got to this country is that african americans ARE indeed racists (which is not the case for other countries I have been to"<<
What other countrys are that? and where do you come from originally?
>>"and please note that Blacks were made slaves everywhere else (not only in the US)" <<
Evrywhere else? Please name some of the other countrys that you feel are similar to US in this regard.
>>"I guess the US is the only place where they have not evolved yet"<<
evolved from what?
Nitemare
Lifer
how bout the blacks who owned slaves or the blacks that sold their fellow tribesmen into slavery..
be careful where you point your finger. whites aren't the only guilty party in this.
I think the Chinese Americans who built the trans-continental railroads were treated far harsher than blacks. They were tricked into coming here, enslaved and usually worked until they died either from accidents or ill treatment.
yllus
Elite Member & Lifer
Oddly enough, though being of Middle Eastern origins, I've only ever been discriminated against by my own kind - namely, the 40+ year old men who seem to hate to hear my accentless English and western style of dress. Racism is everywhere. Who cares. Worry about things you can actually change.
I leave you all to your sobfest.
I leave you all to your sobfest.
stonecold3169
Platinum Member
They are allowed to if they see fit. Indians are welcome to live wherever they like. I live in upstate NY, about 5 minutes from the biggest Mohawk reservation, which spans from near Massena NY up through Canada (I'm not sure exactly where it goes up to). These are far from "interment camps". They are given tax free status, a nice safe place to live with american law enforcement and utilities if desired (they can choose to not take them, like a country), and thus enjoy a better way of living while they are on the set reservations.
NY state kisses their asses, in snow storms they get the plows first, if there is an emergency then they get service first, or police service first, or whatever. Several times they have put up blockades and refused white people to cross through their land, so they can legally do that too. To go across the american-canadian border they don't have to stop at the set points, they have free uninterupted travel. Seems like they made out pretty well for stuff I never did to them. Good thing my taxes pay for their schools. Oh, I also went to an elementary school that was taken over by the Mohawk warriors with automatics because the school was taking in the same amount of white kids as natives (it was split 50/50).
Other then that, minorities and non-minorities alike are pretty peaceful here. Granted, we aren't very diverse here (96% white, at my university we're 89% white), but there's little to no racism. I just asked a bunch of friends, and they said that they've never been the butt of racism. It's a peaceful area up here, honestly, which is why I don't understand on tv shows and movies how it's justified that whites get called crackers or whatever, it just doesn't happen here. You might say they don't call me that because they've never been victoms of racism, but really, would that make it right or justified anyways? Just fueling a fire.
I think the best case I can make about the family being very supportive of minorities would be that we have a fairly high (of the 4% minority in the area, about 1.4% total) percentage of Iraqis. Not even on days of 9/11 when middle easterns were being highly suspect, or when the war started, or during the upheavel towards it did they feel afraid to leave them homes, go out and enjoy life. Many places started up funds and foundations to help with people's families and relatives overseas, and everyone has been super supportive. Racism isn't everywhere, it just takes a bit of work to achieve. If respect comes to and from itself. We need to realize that whites, blacks, asians, middle eastern, africans, native americans don't deserve anything more then anyone else, regardless of what happened in the past, as it doesn't solve anything, it just prolongs the problem. We need to drop everything where one race gets more for no reason then another. I'm a 20 year old male, I have done nothing to any minority, and I would hope to have nothing negative done to me.
Deeko, I am with you on this one.
Here is an example for a Summer Medical School Program my brother and I applied for:
(Just a few) Caucasian male qualifications:
-- Graduated with 3.9-4.0 GPA (Summa Cum Laude)
-- Had taken MCAT (not required for this program)
-- Over 150+ volunteer hours in the local hospital in diff. departments
-- We both were awarded as the only two "Outstanding Seniors" in our grad. dept.
(A few)Africian American female qualifications:
-- Junior with 3.2 GPA
-- Had never taken MCAT (not required for this program)
-- Few volunteer hours
And guess who go into the program?
Stats of the overall program: 85 individuals were interviewed, 17 were admitted, 14 of which were Africian Americans with lower qualifications than I had. NO WHITE MALES WERE ADMITTED. So, you guys are telling me this is right???? I don't think so.
IT IS HAPPENING, that is all I have to say. To say that it isn't well get your head out of your @#s!
Jmmsbnd007
Diamond Member
Remember kids, you can get called a whitey but you can't call someone a blackie! I hate reverse racism.
FatJackSprat
Senior member
Not only does this white discrimination regularly happen, it adds insult to injury by failing in its stated purpose.
Go to the Center for Equal Opportunity and check out the last article at the bottom right of the page, the one about Univ. of MD School of Med.
- the article concerns a study showing that, even in spite of additional in school assitance, minorities fail to graduate at a higher rate.
It's just common sense. If you admit people on anything other than their ability to be academically competitive, they won't be academically competitve. This practice doesn't just take an opporunity away from an applicant who is qualified, it wastes money, and even deprives society of qualified professionals.
As to why it is acceptable to discriminate against whites: we live in a society that not only encourages people to feel sorry for themselves, but to also blame all of their shortcomings on external sources. It's okay to hate a winner.
busmaster11
Platinum Member
Grimlock: There's no telling what your attempt to inject common sense into this thread will result in... Perhaps the guy's head will explode. Who knows...
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Would you like me to call you a White Nazi? After all all your posts yourself seem to want to talk about how the white man is suffering. I see it now clearly, its an emerging trend.Of course not though, you're not subjective, you're as objective as can be.
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If you actually read my replies in the other thread, I voted that white people are NOT the most discriminated against group. I voted for Middle Easterners.
Nitemare
Lifer
Originally posted by: Marshallj
Originally posted by: Gr1mL0cK
Would you like me to call you a White Nazi? After all all your posts yourself seem to want to talk about how the white man is suffering. I see it now clearly, its an emerging trend.Of course not though, you're not subjective, you're as objective as can be.
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If you actually read my replies in the other thread, I voted that white people are NOT the most discriminated against group. I voted for Middle Easterners.
If 90% of them would not support terrorism and hate the US then they would not be disciminated against
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