Why is prostitution immoral?

[RampantAndroid]

Its not a glorious business...and yes, I would say its "immoral". Not because people are selling sex...but because of the fact that many of the people selling sex are being exploited or abused.

What would you say if it was well regulated then? Like it is in Nevada, where the women are tested for STDs and there are regulations and it's consensual/they're free to choose to do it or not? Strip away everything else and leave just the act of being paid for sex.

 

[blackangst1]

Of course, you'd think its okay for a young girl to be exploited by a pimp.

Only a jackass would interprate that that way.

Its like this. In some scenarios, children not even in puberty yet work to pay off debts by sewing or manufacturing. Does that mean manufacturing is bad and exploitative? Should we outlaw manufacturing too?

 

[Bowfinger]

You know I made a similar point in this thread already, back in 12-17-2011, too bad you were too stupid to read it.



The reason I included the recent link about President Obama selling private access to donors of $500,000+ is because it points out the hypocrisy of little lefties like you.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/quid pro quo

You're right, sweetie. I didn't go back to read the whole thread, nor do I particularly care what you posted over a year ago, before you became such a bitter, brainless hack. I was responding only to your gratuitous, but too predictable, partisan attack in a thread that has no reason to be partisan. As far as my purported "hypocrisy" is concerned, when you can show that I've supported Obama's whoring while attacking the whoring of Congress, you may have a point. I haven't, however. I believe both are wrong, meaning you're once again proving that that giant chip on your shoulder colors everything you say. Take a Midol, princess, or STFU. You are a waste of electrons.

 

[blackangst1]

What would you say if it was well regulated then? Like it is in Nevada, where the women are tested for STDs and there are regulations and it's consensual/they're free to choose to do it or not? Strip away everything else and leave just the act of being paid for sex.

This is how it is in many countries such as Thailand, Philippines, and Brazil...just to name a few.

 

[nehalem256]

You don't think something coerces people into prostituting themselves? I'm pretty sure it (coercion) is inherent in the equation that leads to whore.

Only if you think the desire for money is coercion.

 

[nehalem256]

$50 says it is different from whatever you would define as an exploited woman.

Well I wouldn't call paying someone to perform a service, that many people do for free, "exploiting".

Is Lebron James being exploited when is paid to play basketball?

 

[SheHateMe]

Only a jackass would interprate that that way.

Its like this. In some scenarios, children not even in puberty yet work to pay off debts by sewing or manufacturing. Does that mean manufacturing is bad and exploitative? Should we outlaw manufacturing too?

How are you comparing selling sex to sewing t-shirts?

Well I wouldn't call paying someone to perform a service, that many people do for free, "exploiting".

Is Lebron James being exploited when is paid to play basketball?

And you totally ignored the point I was making that pimps exploit young girls, sometimes underage, to use as prostitutes so they can get paid.

Of course, you are turning this back around on the women.

 

[RampantAndroid]

This is how it is in many countries such as Thailand, Philippines, and Brazil...just to name a few.

See, then I'm fine with it. I have nothing against people having sex, as long as they make an effort to avoid STDs, and as long as everyone has chosen to do it of their own free will. If money changes hands in the process...well, not my cup of tea but I'm in no position to say you can't do it.

I'm REALLY sick of the US trying to suppress anything sexual...the only swear word you can't use on TV is "fuck" these days, but if you even allude to two people going at it...HOW DARE YOU!

 

[nehalem256]

And you totally ignored the point I was making that pimps exploit young girls, sometimes underage, to use as prostitutes so they can get paid.

Exploit is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword to refer to people doing work you don't like.

And according to US courts

Underage girls are allowed to CHOOSE to become mothers

16- http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/18/us/texas-abortion-teen-lawsuit/?hpt=hp_t3
14- http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/18/us/texas-pregnant-teen

If someone is old enough to make choices about becoming a parent who am I to deny them the opportunity to earn a living and support their child?

Of course, you are turning this back around on the women.

Treating women as adults who are capable of being responsible for themselves is not "turning this back around on women".

 

[monovillage]

You're right, sweetie. I didn't go back to read the whole thread, nor do I particularly care what you posted over a year ago, before you became such a bitter, brainless hack. I was responding only to your gratuitous, but too predictable, partisan attack in a thread that has no reason to be partisan. As far as my purported "hypocrisy" is concerned, when you can show that I've supported Obama's whoring while attacking the whoring of Congress, you may have a point. I haven't, however. I believe both are wrong, meaning you're once again proving that that giant chip on your shoulder colors everything you say. Take a Midol, princess, or STFU. You are a waste of electrons.

Awwww, is Bowfinger throwing yet another tantrum?

 

[Darwin333]

It isn't immoral, it is simply a business transaction between consenting adults dealing with "property" that they are supposedly the sole owners of.

 

[SheHateMe]

Exploit is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword to refer to people doing work you don't like.

And according to US courts

Underage girls are allowed to CHOOSE to become mothers

16- http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/18/us/texas-abortion-teen-lawsuit/?hpt=hp_t3
14- http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/18/us/texas-pregnant-teen

If someone is old enough to make choices about becoming a parent who am I to deny them the opportunity to earn a living and support their child?


Treating women as adults who are capable of being responsible for themselves is not "turning this back around on women".

So you have NO problem with an underaged girl being a prostitute?

 

[Darwin333]

How are you comparing selling sex to sewing t-shirts?

They both use your body and labor in order to provide a service in which another party finds valuable?

And you totally ignored the point I was making that pimps exploit young girls, sometimes underage, to use as prostitutes so they can get paid.

Of course, you are turning this back around on the women.

Yes and if it was actually legal you would see FAR less of that. Pimps would be a thing of the past because they would be completely unnecessary. Police could focus all of their attention on catching the very few remaining "rings" that exploit girls/women while the rest are left alone.

The ONLY reason a "pimp" has a job today is because prostitution is illegal. Legalizing it makes it safer for all parties involved, period.

 

[nehalem256]

So you have NO problem with an underaged girl being a prostitute?

I don't think underage girls should be mothers.

But since society apparently does not have a problem with that. It seems a bit hypocritical to say that underage girls only have control over their body sometimes.

 

[Darwin333]

Exploit is nothing more than a meaningless buzzword to refer to people doing work you don't like.

And according to US courts

Underage girls are allowed to CHOOSE to become mothers

16- http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/18/us/texas-abortion-teen-lawsuit/?hpt=hp_t3
14- http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/18/us/texas-pregnant-teen

If someone is old enough to make choices about becoming a parent who am I to deny them the opportunity to earn a living and support their child?

How does that make them "unexploitable"?

 

[Darwin333]

I don't think underage girls should be mothers.

But since society apparently does not have a problem with that. It seems a bit hypocritical to say that underage girls only have control over their body sometimes.

Hell, adults in the US only have control of their bodies sometimes.

 

[Bowfinger]

Awwww, is Bowfinger throwing yet another tantrum?

Weaksauce, princess. Is there anything you aren't a failure at?

 

[nehalem256]

How does that make them "unexploitable"?

It doesn't.

But it seems awfully silly to letting a 14 year old be responsible for another human being is totally fine.

But we draw the line at her receiving money for having sex.

 

[monovillage]

Weaksauce, princess. Is there anything you aren't a failure at?

Posting about a political whore like Obama, I'm very successful at posting about his selling out, his lack of integrity and his lying.

 

[actuarial]

And you totally ignored the point I was making that pimps exploit young girls, sometimes underage, to use as prostitutes so they can get paid.

Of course, you are turning this back around on the women.

You didn't really make a point as to why prostitution should be illegal though.

Showing that exploitation exists in an environment where prostitution is illegal doesn't seem like much support for keeping prostitution illegal.

Are you trying to say the exploitation will be worse if it is legalized?

Do you think the police are going to be more likely to find abuse in a legal environment where the employees pay taxes or one where the employer is doing everything possible to ensure the police don't even know the business exists?

 

[SheHateMe]

You didn't really make a point as to why prostitution should be illegal though.

Showing that exploitation exists in an environment where prostitution is illegal doesn't seem like much support for keeping prostitution illegal.

Are you trying to say the exploitation will be worse if it is legalized?

Do you think the police are going to be more likely to find abuse in a legal environment where the employees pay taxes or one where the employer is doing everything possible to ensure the police don't even know the business exists?

The question was whether or not it was immoral. Not whether or not it should be legalized.

 

[Oldgamer]

wow, this is one long friggin thread..

I thought all prostitutes were illiterate, drug addicted, run aways? Aren't there like a ton of newspapers and media reports about all the pimps and women and girls being trafficked into prostitution against their will? Or is all that just overblown media hype?

What about the diseases? Don't they spread diseases?

Besides I thought real men don't buy girls...*snick*

 

[actuarial]

The question was whether or not it was immoral. Not whether or not it should be legalized.

Well you didn't make a point on that either.

Unless you think it's impossible for prostitution to exist without exploitation, then simply showing that exploitation exists with the current sex trade proves nothing.

For example, I wouldn't point to Foxconn facilities as a reason why factory employment is immoral.

If you want to make a point about the act itself being immoral, it's much more meaningful to show how it is still immoral even in a legal, controlled setting. That isolates the act itself from to the problems that come with any underground industry.

Do you think what goes on at the Bunny Ranch in Nevada is immoral?

 

[SheHateMe]

Do you think what goes on at the Bunny Ranch in Nevada is immoral?

Do they have 13 year old girls working there?

 

[Tab]

Prostitution is essentially legal in Europe, I wonder what the attitudes are there...