why is polygamy illegal?

[kage69]

You....and me....and her....

SIMULTANEOUSLY!

 

[her209]

except that's be a circular type situation which is would be rare relative to "traditional" polygamy.

And "traditional" polygamy don't require all parties to consent.

 

[Lemon law]

Well, as a matter of fact, a few human societies still permit polygamy. Including a few USA Mormons if they can get away with it.

But I think it comes down to the natural Human sex ratio. And while slightly more males than females are born each year, by the time of adulthood the slightly higher male mortality is factored in, we end up with an almost one to one ratio. And my guess is, that no human society that has tried mass polygamy has ended up stable, even though some adjustment in social mores are permitted when something like war temporarily changes that 1 to 1 ratio.

But with better sex prediction long before birth and abortion technology, I predict future problems for some limited nations that have foolishly permitted human female births to be thus limited.

 

[Robor]

ATOT style

LOL! :biggrin:

 

[Robor]

You....and me....and her....

SIMULTANEOUSLY!

I miss Chef...

 

[Kadarin]

My opinion is that it should be ok for any group of consenting adults to "marry" if they wish. Then, if they choose to so marry, they marry into an explicitly defined contract which defines spousal rights and enumerates what happens to assets and so forth.

My opinion is also that anyone who uses an argument like "well, if you allow this then you'll have to start allowing marriages with goats and dogs and we all see where that is going" should be shot for being so goddamned stupid.

 

[Moonbeam]

For the same reason as every other time this question gets asked. If we could have more than one wife, guys like me with enormous capacity would have all the women.

 

[OutHouse]

I was thinking more like this:

no that isnt polygamy that is Polyamory

 

[Lemon law]

For the same reason as every other time this question gets asked. If we could have more than one wife, guys like me with enormous capacity would have all the women.

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Moonbeam, even though you seem to have enormous intellectual capacity and an excess of zen, you may underestimate your tendency to confuse normal females, who tend to gravitate to bad boy biker types with muscles, as they go for me Tarzan you Jane dialog. Of course, the more rational females find the political power of Henry Kissinger sociopath types to be an aphrodisiac.

And in so pointing this out, I have explained the statistical concept of regression of the mean.
Now tell me Moonbeam, yes or no, are you mean or not?

Any anyone who thinks our current political problems and political infighting is a problem, they never researched the female infighting in various historical harems.

 

[peonyu]

If gay marriage is allowed then so should Polygamy. Were talking adults here, and if ALL of the adults agree then its hurting no one. Limit it to two Husbands or Wives per person.

As for the religious folks. Well most Christians wouldnt marry more than one spouse anyway. A muslim however could. Polygamy ranks equal with Gay marriage in my book.

 

[DisgruntledVirus]

Damn, can you imagine having more than one mother-in-law?

*shudder*


You don't need more than one wife. You just need an open minded wife.

Couldn't agree with you more. One open minded woman>>>>>>>>>any number of wives.

My opinion is that it should be ok for any group of consenting adults to "marry" if they wish. Then, if they choose to so marry, they marry into an explicitly defined contract which defines spousal rights and enumerates what happens to assets and so forth.

My opinion is also that anyone who uses an argument like "well, if you allow this then you'll have to start allowing marriages with goats and dogs and we all see where that is going" should be shot for being so goddamned stupid.

While in theory I may agree with "well it should be their right", I have to ultimately disagree with you. With how the laws are currently regarding marriage/families, polygamy cannot be legalized. Divorces for a couple are hard enough, and add in more people and it just gets worse. Then, it's not a good idea for kids involved. How would visitation rights work? Each person gets an equal share? What about the biological parents? You should get the picture I hope.

Since I've done swinging and been in a relationship where we "dated" others (I realize it's not the same as polygamy), I'll throw out my thoughts on it. First, I'm not a fan of polygamy. Polygamy is more of a concept where there is an "Alpha" of sorts (male or female), who then has multiple spouses. It tends to put one person (the "Alpha") as more important then the others and this "Alpha" gets their needs/wants from the spouses. The spouses don't usually get that in return. Also, jealousy between the multiple spouses tends to occur. Jealousy can be good in small amounts with the right people involved, but unchecked or excessive amounts can be very damaging to any relationship. In polygamy, the multiple spouses usually get jealous because while they might be technically all equal, there are "favorites". Polygamy can work, but it's rare in my experience.

If you believe, as I do, that humans are not meant to be monogamous and want to have multiple partners then you may want to read up on polyamory instead. Polyamory is, IMHO, the more "evolved" form of having multiple partners. It also can have jealousy issues, but one of the core fundamentals of it is 100% full communication with everybody involved which helps keep a lot of that jealousy in check. There isn't an "Alpha" so to speak, although their might be a "primary" relationship. For example, if a married couple is polymarous and have boyfriends/girlfriends, then they usually will put the marriage as primary and the people they date know that as well.

Edit- Rather then putting up another post I'm just adding in my reply to peonyu to this post.

If gay marriage is allowed then so should Polygamy. Were talking adults here, and if ALL of the adults agree then its hurting no one. Limit it to two Husbands or Wives per person.

As for the religious folks. Well most Christians wouldnt marry more than one spouse anyway. A muslim however could. Polygamy ranks equal with Gay marriage in my book.

I'd be more inclined to be okay with polygamy if it was setup in the way you describe.

I'd much rather see "anybody can marry up to 3 other people" basically. So, you could have gay/lesbian's marrying and can also allow those who choose to marry in a poly relationship to be able to.

I'm still generally against that though, and would rather just have "anybody can marry any other person they choose" which would allow GLT's to marry. The couple can then choose to bring others into the relationship as a boyfriend/girlfriend, but not as a legal spouse. As others have said, some laws are there to protect ourselves from ourselves. This happens to be one I can agree with.

*Disclaimer* There are many forms of polygamy and polyamory, which my post is not meant to be all inclusive. It's not the type of relationship that defines if it works or not, but the people involved.

 

[BladeVenom]

2) Our laws are frequently based upon religion and the majority of religious people in America don't support it.

Yet the religious Holy Books that the major religions are based on permit polygamy.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

no that isnt polygamy that is Polyamory

Technically it falls under polygamy but it's the rare form of it - a circular type and a combination of both types of polygamy.

 

[rudder]

genetic abnormalities. And in these polygamous communities there is a shortage of women for the men. Some will have 10 wives some none. Horny people make trouble.

 

[MJinZ]

Socially damaging.

Many laws are not from any source of Ethics or Morals, or even Natural Laws, but are simply Civics/Civil control.

Same thing with prostitution. There is no real reason why Prostitution is not legal, except it is socially damaging to dehumanize a person as a sex worker.

 

[MJinZ]

genetic abnormalities. And in these polygamous communities there is a shortage of women for the men. Some will have 10 wives some none. Horny people make trouble.

No that would be inbreeding. Having babies with as many "wives" or "husbands" as possible can only be beneficial to genetic proliferation.

 

[WHAMPOM]

I'm a few years behind on this, but I just started watching Big Love this week and it had me thinking... why is polygamy illegal?

assuming all participants are consenting and legal, why should it matter if a woman wanted two husbands or a man wanted two wives?

I'd think that things like underaged, forced marriages would be harder to hide as well if everything were out in the open.

Just where do you think suicide bombers come from?

 

[peonyu]

Socially damaging.

Many laws are not from any source of Ethics or Morals, or even Natural Laws, but are simply Civics/Civil control.

Same thing with prostitution. There is no real reason why Prostitution is not legal, except it is socially damaging to dehumanize a person as a sex worker.

The same could be said of Gay marriage. Two people of the same sex cant produce children, and technically the way they have sex [men atleast] is unnatural. Yet its close to being legalized and its also being pushed by the media as another form of normal. So if its ok for two men to marry, then why would it be socially damaging for a man to marry two women, or a woman to have two husbands? Anything besides beastiality or children marrying adults should be ok with the downward spiral our country is going with its morals.

 

[Taejin]

The same could be said of Gay marriage. Two people of the same sex cant produce children, and technically the way they have sex [men atleast] is unnatural. Yet its close to being legalized and its also being pushed by the media as another form of normal. So if its ok for two men to marry, then why would it be socially damaging for a man to marry two women, or a woman to have two husbands? Anything besides beastiality or children marrying adults should be ok with the downward spiral our country is going with its morals.

another insane fundie alert

 

[peonyu]

Except im A- not religious and B- definately not a fundie and C- Dont wish to marry a Goat or another man.

 

[Taejin]

Except im A- not religious and B- definately not a fundie and C- Dont wish to marry a Goat or another man.

you're just lacking in logical thinking then? your particular line of reasoning has been debunked over and over again.. frankly I wonder why people won't a) learn to connect the dots properly or b) shut the hell up and learn something first..

 

[peonyu]

Your the one lacking logic. If its ok for two gay adults to wed then it should be perfectly fine for a Adult to marry two other consenting adults. The only one who is not thinking logically is yourself. So stfu yourself.

 

[peonyu]

If I need to spell it out for you Taejin I can do that to. I know it just goes over your head the idea that if gay marriage is legalized its not a huge leap to legalize polygamy. But I can spell it out if you want since your just so smart! And I am against gay marriage [guess that makes me a bad person!], I just think if gay marriage is legalized then F it, why not legalize other things with regards to marriage.

 

[MJinZ]

Your the one lacking logic. If its ok for two gay adults to wed then it should be perfectly fine for a Adult to marry two other consenting adults. The only one who is not thinking logically is yourself. So stfu yourself.

LMAO.

Let's try basic math. 1+1 = 1+2?

I'm sorry, but it's basically a fact at this point, you are defective.

 

[Taejin]

If I need to spell it out for you Taejin I can do that to. I know it just goes over your head the idea that if gay marriage is legalized its not a huge leap to legalize polygamy. But I can spell it out if you want since your just so smart! And I am against gay marriage [guess that makes me a bad person!], I just think if gay marriage is legalized then F it, why not legalize other things with regards to marriage.

yes and you attempted to equate marrying a gay man with marrying a goat.. lol? Also, polygamy being damaging to society has other reasons,but I'll see if that overworked brain of yours can figure it out (hint: it has nothing to do with religion or whatever stupid idea of 'morality' you have..)