Why is organic milk only available in half-gallons?

[Aztech]

We drink a lot of milk. We're trying to switch to organic, but it's only available in half-gallon containers at all of the groceries near us? It's too expensive to buy it that way. Why do they do that?

 

[imported_LoKe]

Spoils faster. Not worth it for them to stock it in large quantities.

 

[djheater]

Whole foods and Trader Joes both sell it in gallons, which is how we buy it.

 

[effowe]

Originally posted by: djheater
Whole foods and Trader Joes both sell it in gallons, which is how we buy it.

Yep, go to either if you got one around.

 

[ElFenix]

well what's that then?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Make a request to the place that you currently shop at to start stocking it.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: LoKe
Spoils faster. Not worth it for them to stock it in large quantities.

Every time I look at the expiry dates on milk the organic stuff lasts much longer...

And it's cause they put 50% by volume of hormones as filler into the non-organic stuff. You're still drinking the same amount of "milk".

 

[FoBoT]

the cows are only half as big as non-organic cows







milk is milk, don't waste your money

 

[Kadarin]

I prefer the inorganic milk, myself... Silicon-based FTW.

 

[Aikouka]

Price Chopper here has both half and full gallon containers of organic milk.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the cows are only half as big as non-organic cows







milk is milk, don't waste your money

really.

OP are you buying organic cheese and organic ice cream too?

 

[sao123]

organic is the business term for lets sell existing products on a different shelf but charge double the price

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: sao123
organic is the business term for lets sell existing products on a different shelf but charge double the price

Prove the organic milk is the same as the normal crap and you might have a point. You also might put a lot of organic dairy farms out of business. This is not like taking some brand name product and re-branding it under the store's name like they do with sodas and stuff. It's completely different...

All that's really required though is a sense of taste. Have you ever tried organic milk, compare dit side to side to regular milk?

And have fun with all the growth hormones and antibiotics in your regular milk.

 

[AUMM]

Originally posted by: sao123
organic is the business term for lets sell existing products on a different shelf but charge double the price

While that may be true with a lot of produce, milk is different. Most regular milks have a lot of antibiotics and growth hormones....

Now most organic vegetables and other products... i agree, waste of money

 

[PepePeru]

at the wild oats market (soon to be whole foods) they sell whole gallons of organic milk.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: Aztech
We drink a lot of milk. We're trying to switch to organic, but it's only available in half-gallon containers at all of the groceries near us? It's too expensive to buy it that way. Why do they do that?

It's expensive to buy in gallon containers too. I was just at the grocery store, and it was $6+ for a gallon of organic milk. Hope to see it on sale soon....

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the cows are only half as big as non-organic cows







milk is milk, don't waste your money

Organic milk cows are:

Not pumped full of antibiotics and hormones. This saves you from ingesting unwanted drugs, and helps alleviate bacterial resistance caused by overuse of antibiotics.
Not grown Matrix-esque stalls.
Not fed beef byproducts like blood and bones.
Fed organic crops which means no synthetic fertilizers and pesticides, which are damaging to the environment.

 

[krotchy]

My costco has horizon organic milk by the gallon and its relatively priced to a gallon at a regular grocery store. However I stick with the 2-gallon packs of normal stuff which blows the regular store outa the water.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the cows are only half as big as non-organic cows







milk is milk, don't waste your money

Organic milk cows are:

Not pumped full of antibiotics and hormones. This saves you from ingesting unwanted drugs, and helps alleviate bacterial resistance caused by overuse of antibiotics.
Not grown Matrix-esque stalls.
Not fed beef byproducts like blood and bones.
Fed organic crops which means no synthetic fertilizers and pesticides, which are damaging to the environment.

I'm afraid your organic milk is far from perfect. It still can contain a small amount of pesticides. No RBGH? Suuure, although some companies will use legal loop holes on that and still claim that they sell Organic Milk (read below).
Not grown in Matrix-esque stalls? Are you sure about that too?

BOYCOTT THE SHAMELESS SEVEN--ORGANIC OUTLAWS LABELING FACTORY FARM MILK AS 'USDA ORGANIC'

While USDA bureaucrats drag their feet on closing key loopholes in national organic organic standards, retailers, wholesalers and major ?organic? brands are continuing to sell milk and dairy products labeled as "USDA Organic, even though most or all of their milk is coming from factory farm feedlots where the animals have been brought in from conventional farms and are kept in intensive confinement, with little or no access to pasture.

The Organic Consumers Association is expanding its boycott of Horizon and Aurora organic dairy products to include five national "private label" organic milk brands supplied by Aurora, as well as two leading organic soy products, Silk and White Wave, owned by Horizon's parent company, Dean Foods. Its time to turn up the heat on the "Shameless Seven.

While thousands of organic consumers and a number of natural food stores and cooperatives have joined the boycott, major national large grocery retailers have ignored the boycott.

Aurora Organic supplies milk for several private label organic milk brands, including Costco's "Kirkland Signature," Safeway?s "O" organics brand, Publix?s ?High Meadows,?Giant's "Natures Promise," and Wild Oats? organic milk. Aurora Organic received a failing grade from the Cornucopia Institute's survey of organic dairies for its practice of intensive confinement of dairy cows. For pictures of Aurora Organic's operations, follow this link. The Cornucopia Institute recently blew the whistle on Aurora Organic's greenwashing and its bogus certification of animal welfare.

Additionally, its been revealed that much of the soy for Dean Food's White Wave tofu and Silk soymilk products are sourced abroad, primarily from Brazil and China. Environmental standards and workers' rights are routinely violated in these two countries.

http://www.democracyinaction.o....jsp?campaign_KEY=4756

 

[RadiclDreamer]

Originally posted by: lozina

Originally posted by: sao123
organic is the business term for lets sell existing products on a different shelf but charge double the price

Prove the organic milk is the same as the normal crap and you might have a point. You also might put a lot of organic dairy farms out of business. This is not like taking some brand name product and re-branding it under the store's name like they do with sodas and stuff. It's completely different...

All that's really required though is a sense of taste. Have you ever tried organic milk, compare dit side to side to regular milk?

And have fun with all the growth hormones and antibiotics in your regular milk.

I love both additives, how do you think grew up to be so healthy and strong

 

[torpid]

Just being organic does not make milk all that great. However, many of the organic companies also do other things that make their milk taste better. Many have greatly reduced somatic cell counts. Some are unhomogenized (which IMO makes for better milk).

 

[Descartes]

If you want to drink organic and support the original point of the organic movement, then buy Organic Valley. It's a farmer-owned coop. Horizon is owned by Dean Foods, one of the companies with an agricultural philosophy that led to the creation of the movement in the first place.

Also, ignore all the ignorants that spout of nonsense about organic. Most are ill-informed on the products, the process and the whole origins of organics in the first place.

 

[Turin39789]

Originally posted by: Descartes
If you want to drink organic and support the original point of the organic movement, then buy Organic Valley. It's a farmer-owned coop. Horizon is owned by Dean Foods, one of the companies with an agricultural philosophy that led to the creation of the movement in the first place.

Also, ignore all the ignorants that spout of nonsense about organic. Most are ill-informed on the products, the process and the whole origins of organics in the first place.

I get mine at the local farmers market, from cows within the county. But they only have the real deal. I need me some Skim organic.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the cows are only half as big as non-organic cows







milk is milk, don't waste your money

Organic milk cows are:

Not pumped full of antibiotics and hormones. This saves you from ingesting unwanted drugs, and helps alleviate bacterial resistance caused by overuse of antibiotics.
Not grown Matrix-esque stalls.
Not fed beef byproducts like blood and bones.
Fed organic crops which means no synthetic fertilizers and pesticides, which are damaging to the environment.

I'm afraid your organic milk is far from perfect. It still can contain a small amount of pesticides. No RBGH? Suuure, although some companies will use legal loop holes on that and still claim that they sell Organic Milk (read below).
Not grown in Matrix-esque stalls? Are you sure about that too?

BOYCOTT THE SHAMELESS SEVEN--ORGANIC OUTLAWS LABELING FACTORY FARM MILK AS 'USDA ORGANIC'

While USDA bureaucrats drag their feet on closing key loopholes in national organic organic standards, retailers, wholesalers and major ?organic? brands are continuing to sell milk and dairy products labeled as "USDA Organic, even though most or all of their milk is coming from factory farm feedlots where the animals have been brought in from conventional farms and are kept in intensive confinement, with little or no access to pasture.

The Organic Consumers Association is expanding its boycott of Horizon and Aurora organic dairy products to include five national "private label" organic milk brands supplied by Aurora, as well as two leading organic soy products, Silk and White Wave, owned by Horizon's parent company, Dean Foods. Its time to turn up the heat on the "Shameless Seven.

While thousands of organic consumers and a number of natural food stores and cooperatives have joined the boycott, major national large grocery retailers have ignored the boycott.

Aurora Organic supplies milk for several private label organic milk brands, including Costco's "Kirkland Signature," Safeway?s "O" organics brand, Publix?s ?High Meadows,?Giant's "Natures Promise," and Wild Oats? organic milk. Aurora Organic received a failing grade from the Cornucopia Institute's survey of organic dairies for its practice of intensive confinement of dairy cows. For pictures of Aurora Organic's operations, follow this link. The Cornucopia Institute recently blew the whistle on Aurora Organic's greenwashing and its bogus certification of animal welfare.

Additionally, its been revealed that much of the soy for Dean Food's White Wave tofu and Silk soymilk products are sourced abroad, primarily from Brazil and China. Environmental standards and workers' rights are routinely violated in these two countries.

http://www.democracyinaction.o....jsp?campaign_KEY=4756

Great, you found an article which exposes several companies which are trying to take advantage of loop holes or other dastardly means to cheat the system. And now you are going to try and project this onto the entire organic milk industry? Yet in another thread about mercury in amalgam filling controversy, you toss aside the anecdotal evidence presented in opposition to mercury? Not very consistent ....

Edit: Sam's club had to recently recall their beef recently due to some e.coli outbreak or another. Guess the entire beef industry is out for you too?

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: FoBoT
the cows are only half as big as non-organic cows







milk is milk, don't waste your money

Organic milk cows are:

Not pumped full of antibiotics and hormones. This saves you from ingesting unwanted drugs, and helps alleviate bacterial resistance caused by overuse of antibiotics.
Not grown Matrix-esque stalls.
Not fed beef byproducts like blood and bones.
Fed organic crops which means no synthetic fertilizers and pesticides, which are damaging to the environment.

I'm afraid your organic milk is far from perfect. It still can contain a small amount of pesticides. No RBGH? Suuure, although some companies will use legal loop holes on that and still claim that they sell Organic Milk (read below).
Not grown in Matrix-esque stalls? Are you sure about that too?

BOYCOTT THE SHAMELESS SEVEN--ORGANIC OUTLAWS LABELING FACTORY FARM MILK AS 'USDA ORGANIC'

While USDA bureaucrats drag their feet on closing key loopholes in national organic organic standards, retailers, wholesalers and major ?organic? brands are continuing to sell milk and dairy products labeled as "USDA Organic, even though most or all of their milk is coming from factory farm feedlots where the animals have been brought in from conventional farms and are kept in intensive confinement, with little or no access to pasture.

The Organic Consumers Association is expanding its boycott of Horizon and Aurora organic dairy products to include five national "private label" organic milk brands supplied by Aurora, as well as two leading organic soy products, Silk and White Wave, owned by Horizon's parent company, Dean Foods. Its time to turn up the heat on the "Shameless Seven.

While thousands of organic consumers and a number of natural food stores and cooperatives have joined the boycott, major national large grocery retailers have ignored the boycott.

Aurora Organic supplies milk for several private label organic milk brands, including Costco's "Kirkland Signature," Safeway?s "O" organics brand, Publix?s ?High Meadows,?Giant's "Natures Promise," and Wild Oats? organic milk. Aurora Organic received a failing grade from the Cornucopia Institute's survey of organic dairies for its practice of intensive confinement of dairy cows. For pictures of Aurora Organic's operations, follow this link. The Cornucopia Institute recently blew the whistle on Aurora Organic's greenwashing and its bogus certification of animal welfare.

Additionally, its been revealed that much of the soy for Dean Food's White Wave tofu and Silk soymilk products are sourced abroad, primarily from Brazil and China. Environmental standards and workers' rights are routinely violated in these two countries.

http://www.democracyinaction.o....jsp?campaign_KEY=4756

That sucks. I thought Horizon was reputable. Before I stopped drinking milk I used to drink their stuff. I once drank it 3 months after opening and it was still good.

Screw it. Soy milk tastes better, uses less natural resources, and has no lactose.