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Why Is Nobody Listening to Jimmy Carter?

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NoStateofMind

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The former president accuses his post-9/11 successors of breaking the law and trampling on human rights. That should be a bigger deal.

The United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights. Revelations that top officials are targeting people to be assassinated abroad, including American citizens, are only the most recent, disturbing proof of how far our nation's violation of human rights has extended. This development began after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and has been sanctioned and escalated by bipartisan executive and legislative actions, without dissent from the general public. As a result, our country can no longer speak with moral authority on these critical issues.
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Recent legislation has made legal the president's right to detain a person indefinitely on suspicion of affiliation with terrorist organizations or "associated forces," a broad, vague power that can be abused without meaningful oversight from the courts or Congress (the law is currently being blocked by a federal judge). This law violates the right to freedom of expression and to be presumed innocent until proved guilty, two other rights enshrined in the declaration.

In addition to American citizens' being targeted for assassination or indefinite detention, recent laws have canceled the restraints in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to allow unprecedented violations of our rights to privacy through warrantless wiretapping and government mining of our electronic communications.
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About time someone at his level starts speaking up. I applaud his attempt. But why is the mainstream media ignoring him?

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PC Surgeon said:
The former president accuses his post-9/11 successors of breaking the law and trampling on human rights. That should be a bigger deal.





About time someone at his level starts speaking up. I applaud his attempt. But why is the mainstream media ignoring him?
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Because the media, like politics, avoids whatever is "inconvenient".
 
lopri said:
Why is nobody listening to George W. Bush?
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If you are attempting to imply that its because he's a former President than your reasoning doesn't hold true. No one is listing to George W Bush because he isn't talking. However every time Bill Clinton opens his mouth there's a microphone ready to broadcast it.
 
Bill Clinton has balls george w bush has puppet masters...

honestly why does anyone even care about media outlets anymore??
 
If Mitt wins expect an outcry from the media when another US citizen isnt afforded a trial before a bomb is dropped on them.
 
Pres. Carter's problem is he has started going off the deep end. For example, while visiting a war zone he demanded to view a specific village which had not been deemed safe by either that nation's military or the secret service. When told no, it is unsafe, he started walking to the village anyway (no idea how far away it was). His own secret service had to stop him for his own protection.

He rants and raves too much as well.

He was a great ex-president for a long time - I just think his age is starting to get to him. This is sad.
 
cybrsage said:
Pres. Carter's problem is he has started going off the deep end. For example, while visiting a war zone he demanded to view a specific village which had not been deemed safe by either that nation's military or the secret service. When told no, it is unsafe, he started walking to the village anyway (no idea how far away it was). His own secret service had to stop him for his own protection.

He rants and raves too much as well.

He was a great ex-president for a long time - I just think his age is starting to get to him. This is sad.
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then explain Ron Paul??

hes the smartest politician there is but no one listens to him?
 
cybrsage said:
Pres. Carter's problem is he has started going off the deep end. For example, while visiting a war zone he demanded to view a specific village which had not been deemed safe by either that nation's military or the secret service. When told no, it is unsafe, he started walking to the village anyway (no idea how far away it was). His own secret service had to stop him for his own protection.

He rants and raves too much as well.

He was a great ex-president for a long time - I just think his age is starting to get to him. This is sad.
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How does his previous perceived rash decisions have to do with the veracity of his statements now? Whether you approve of his past positions or not I find it hard for anyone not to agree with the the topic at hand.
 
PC Surgeon said:
How does his previous perceived rash decisions have to do with the veracity of his statements now? Whether you approve of his past positions or not I find it hard for anyone not to agree with the the topic at hand.
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My view of his position is irrelevant to why I believe the media stopped paying attention to him.
 
master_shake_ said:
then explain Ron Paul??

hes the smartest politician there is but no one listens to him?
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Paul is an interesting character. Usually people learn from mistakes of the past, so old people remember these mistakes better because they were alive when it happened. Paul is different. He doesn't seem to have any of that wisdom. He wants us to go back to things that we know are wrong such as the gold standard and putting hard limits on the money supply.

I always like using the World of Warcraft example of economics. In that game, gold is a fiat currency that magically appears when you kill enemies. As a server ages, the overall amount of gold in the system increases. Some of the most basic things in the game like crap you find on level 1 monsters is worth a considerable amount of money. Paul supporters would say "inflation ruins the economy!!!" but what we see in the game is the exact opposite - servers with larger populations and higher inflation typically have much higher volume of trade. It's worth noting that WoW's economy has mild-moderate inflation like most first world countries and Blizzard actively tries to keep the inflation rate low by increasing the vendor prices and costs to repair things.
 
The problem with Jimmy Carter is that he's not realizing that governments have a tendency to trample on human rights and that government is the root of the symptoms.

He also kept the selective service in place. However, he wasn't as bad as any President after him. It's sad that the Republicans idolize Reagan when he was a million times more economically liberal than Carter was.
 
Anarchist420 said:
The problem with Jimmy Carter is that he's not realizing that governments have a tendency to trample on human rights and that government is the root of the symptoms.
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The root of the symptoms is, and always has been, greed. Governments do trample on human rights, but they also have done wonders to preserve them. A stateless society (or highly state-diminished society) would be an absolute disaster for human rights.
 
Jimmy is being blackballed by the media because he said bad things about Israel, very bad things. It doesn't matter if they were true or not, because, well, because bad things, man, bad things!

Where do we think that the Neocons got all their ideas & justifications about pre-emptive war, indefinite detention & assassination from, anyway?
 
Jhhnn said:
Jimmy is being blackballed by the media because he said bad things about Israel, very bad things. It doesn't matter if they were true or not, because, well, because bad things, man, bad things!

Where do we think that the Neocons got all their ideas & justifications about pre-emptive war, indefinite detention & assassination from, anyway?
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It would be interesting to speculate about why he's being blackballed, if in fact he was really being blackballed.

http://india.nydailynews.com/newsar...-savages-us-foreign-policy-over-drone-strikes

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...mas-newest-critic-jimmy-carter/1#.T-yoQ_WeoYw

It took me 30 seconds to grab those 2 at the top of a Google search result. You want more?
 
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PC Surgeon said:
The former president accuses his post-9/11 successors of breaking the law and trampling on human rights. That should be a bigger deal.





About time someone at his level starts speaking up. I applaud his attempt. But why is the mainstream media ignoring him?

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While Carter isn't really being blacked out by the media, he does have several points that more people should be paying attention to. These detentions, for example, were legalized by the SCOTUS during the Bush years. The statute he references merely affirmed prior SCOTUS rulings. There was no public outcry over this during the Bush years. Minimal outcry with the recent statute. One wonders what it takes get people to actually pay attention to this sort of thing. The sad truth is that many Americans seem to actually approve of it.

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I think you are making a mistake when you lump all the republicans and conservatives in with the NEOCONS. It is like lumping all liberals in with the progressives. If you go back and look at some of the off-the-wall things Jimmy Carter has said in the last 20 years, you will find a definite anti-semetic slant. How can you trust such a man?

When the Marines were captured in Iran, what did he do to try to rescue 400 of our military personnel? He let them rot in prison in a foreign country. Why didnt he bomb Iran? The answer is that he is an anti-military pacifist coward. These brave men deserved more support than they got. They were only guarding our embassy, and we deserted them.

Lest we forget.
 
The explanation I heard (forgot where, think it was National Review) was that Carter was relatively sane until Nixon died, after which he became extremely jealous over Nixon's accomplishments.
 
woolfe9999 said:
It would be interesting to speculate about why he's being blackballed, if in fact he was really being blackballed.

http://india.nydailynews.com/newsar...-savages-us-foreign-policy-over-drone-strikes

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...mas-newest-critic-jimmy-carter/1#.T-yoQ_WeoYw

It took me 30 seconds to grab those 2 at the top of a Google search result. You want more?
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Oh, please. Jimmy has been shunned by the media ever since his book was published, ever since he was critical of Israel & her American supporters. His criticism of the Bush/ Obama indefinite detention/ killer drone policy doesn't change that except for the worse.

Contrary to what you might hear, SS isn't the third rail of American politics- that dubious distinction goes to Israel. It's one of the few areas where Ron Paul actually makes sense, something his supporters manage to overlook each & every chance they get.
 
QuantumPion said:
The explanation I heard (forgot where, think it was National Review) was that Carter was relatively sane until Nixon died, after which he became extremely jealous over Nixon's accomplishments.
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The NRO mastered the art of telling their readers what they want to hear a very long time ago. They pander to the weak minded, confirming that in those circles perception is indeed reality.
 
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