Why is MS's VS 20xx stuck in the '90s?

[Elixer]

This is so annoying, every other program that you install, you can pick a location.
Not so with VS 20xx (2013 in this case) and they force you to install everything to your system drive.

With people using SSDs for their system drive, that don't leave much room for anything else once everything is installed (and yeah, they allow you to pick custom directories for 2 things, big whoop.)

You would think they would have learned by now, not to force people to install on only the system drive .

Speaking of the '90s, perhaps one day we will get full C99 support as well.

 

[Train]

Did you have a previous VS version already installed? Or another build (like the preview, or express) of the same version?

If so, it locks you into the current install location, for shared libs reasons.

If you do a CLEAN install, as in, no other versions of VS present (and this might even include the latest version of SQL Management studio, since it uses the VS interface) Then it should give you the option to install it anywhere.

Or just get a bigger SSD, shit's cheap yo.

 

[Elixer]

It doesn't matter if it is a clean install or not, it still requires a huge chunk of the system drive.

Heath Stewart said it needs about 65% of the install to be on the system drive, so, there really is no good solution besides getting a bigger SSD, and that is out of the question for most companies that are on a budget, or any consumer on a budget as well.

Yeah, symlinks can be used, but, when a update comes along, you are screwed, since updates actually remove the symlink for some brain dead reason.
More info here about that: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...udio-2012-install-directory/10455300#10455300

It just idiotic in 2014, that they don't allow you to specify where you want it, like in that nice 2TB drive you have sitting there waiting for data...

 

[Red Squirrel]

Because Microsoft. They do things the stupid way sometimes.

Don't worry, all that is going to the cloud soon anyway, you wont even need to install it!

 

[Train]

Because Microsoft. They do things the stupid way sometimes.

Don't worry, all that is going to the cloud soon anyway, you wont even need to install it!

Soon? VS online is already a thing.

 

[ejjpi]

this is why: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/heaths/arch...io-11-requires-space-on-the-system-drive.aspx

 

[Tweak155]

How much space does it take up? Sounds like you're too poor to afford a decent sized SSD to be complaining about something like this.

 

[Elixer]

this is why: http://blogs.msdn.com/b/heaths/arch...io-11-requires-space-on-the-system-drive.aspx

Yes, that is the Heath Stewart I was talking about...

That is bollocks as well, since, as also mentioned, if you use symlinks to do it, it will work, up until the brain dead updater tries to update...

How much space does it take up? Sounds like you're too poor to afford a decent sized SSD to be complaining about something like this.

This has nothing to do with it, there is no real reason why it *must* use the system drive.
Would you like everything to install ONLY on the system drive ?

 

[Tweak155]

Yes, that is the Heath Stewart I was talking about...

That is bollocks as well, since, as also mentioned, if you use symlinks to do it, it will work, up until the brain dead updater tries to update...


This has nothing to do with it, there is no real reason why it *must* use the system drive.
Would you like everything to install ONLY on the system drive ?

I prefer all program installs to be on my main drive because it is an SSD. The saved data can be offloaded to my mechanical drives.

It's a valid complaint that you should be given the option, but if the reason is that it "don't leave much room for anything else once everything is installed" I don't think the problem is VS.

 

[smackababy]

Yes, that is the Heath Stewart I was talking about...

That is bollocks as well, since, as also mentioned, if you use symlinks to do it, it will work, up until the brain dead updater tries to update...


This has nothing to do with it, there is no real reason why it *must* use the system drive.
Would you like everything to install ONLY on the system drive ?

Are you sure there isn't actually a reason, even if it is because they coded it that way and can't change it without a rewrite? I have never even attempted to install it on a different drive, because like Tweak, I am not poor and can afford a large SSD for system (and work related programs) and additional SSDs for other things. Currently, I only have one other for games, but if I ever get another category of programs, I will certainly get another SSD.

 

[ninaholic37]

VS20xx is not stuck in the 90s because exes compiled with Visual Studios don't work in Windows 98, even though they work fine in Code::Blocks, Dev C++, etc.. Microsoft has intentionally crippled their program to force people to upgrade their OS.

 

[purbeast0]

i've used many ide's out there and imo nothing can even come close to intellij. granted, i haven't done any c++ or microsoft specific stuff in the past 4-5 years, but intellij in general is by far the best ide out there to me.

 

[Mr Burns]

I have also used many IDEs, IntelliJ for ruby with the ruby plugin in addition to using vi or vim for ruby and it was good.

However, personally I like Visual Studio 2012/2013 a lot more and it's my preferred ide for c and c++. I think it's much smoother and faster and feature rich than anything else out there, again, my personal opinion.

i've used many ide's out there and imo nothing can even come close to intellij. granted, i haven't done any c++ or microsoft specific stuff in the past 4-5 years, but intellij in general is by far the best ide out there to me.

 

[Dude111]

If so, it locks you into the current install location, for shared libs reasons.

It shouldnt have to.... Programs check everywhere for thier files if they are setup that way! (They can be)