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NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
So instead of bitching about making pot legal, you should bitch about making cigarettes, alcohol, and over the counter drugs illegal.
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WTF? You think society is BETTER OFF with things that we kill eachother with every day? Man, you guys are FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKT UP!

Well, based on that reasoning, guns, cars, ALL drugs, walking, showering, fast food, etc...should all be illegal.

amish

If you can prove that there are more negative consequences than there are positive consequences, I might agree with you no matter what the topic.

OK, here. We'll use the shower as an example, Mr. Logic King.
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Pro: You get clean in it

Cons: You can slip and fall
You can drown in it if you have a shower/bathtub with the drain closed.
It uses a lot of water.
Some people choose not to use a shower or bath, anyway.
It requires money, plumbing, and professionals to install and run it.

You want me to give you the same breakdown for GUNS or CARS, for fvck's sake? I'm sure we can find a lot more negative reasons than positive reasons for having those two things in society. Give it up. Everything has a bad side to it. Even WATER can kill you if you drink too much of it.

If you don't want to face the fact that marijuana DOES have benefits beyond getting people high and is not a tool of the Devil, feel free to remain deluded.

blah blah blah blah blah

There are other ways to keep yourself clean.
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
So instead of bitching about making pot legal, you should bitch about making cigarettes, alcohol, and over the counter drugs illegal.
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WTF? You think society is BETTER OFF with things that we kill eachother with every day? Man, you guys are FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKT UP!

Well, based on that reasoning, guns, cars, ALL drugs, walking, showering, fast food, etc...should all be illegal.

amish

If you can prove that there are more negative consequences than there are positive consequences, I might agree with you no matter what the topic.

OK, here. We'll use the shower as an example, Mr. Logic King.
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Pro: You get clean in it

Cons: You can slip and fall
You can drown in it if you have a shower/bathtub with the drain closed.
It uses a lot of water.
Some people choose not to use a shower or bath, anyway.
It requires money, plumbing, and professionals to install and run it.

You want me to give you the same breakdown for GUNS or CARS, for fvck's sake? I'm sure we can find a lot more negative reasons than positive reasons for having those two things in society. Give it up. Everything has a bad side to it. Even WATER can kill you if you drink too much of it.

If you don't want to face the fact that marijuana DOES have benefits beyond getting people high and is not a tool of the Devil, feel free to remain deluded.

Yup....and beyond that, why does everything need to have overwhelming benefits? Isn't choice one of the basis of the government AS WELL AS most religions in the US?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

"powerful" is a word that is open to interpretation. Some people have an easier time controlling themselves while under the influence of alcohol than they do under the influence of marajuana. Some have it the other way around.
 

waylman

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: waylman
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Vic
Driving while talking on cellphones is only illegal in very rare places, and not where I live. Plus, that wasn't my point and you know that. Hey, you got your position to defend. You think you can legislate a perfect world. The problem is that you are completely and foolishly wrong. You only make the world worse. But hey, I know your kind. When do you push for legislation to make it illegal to fart in a public place?
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Explain to me what my kind is?
Farting in a public place hardly puts lives in jeopardy.
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Neither does someone smoking weed in their own home put anyones life in jeopardy. Your point?

People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Anything you've said to this point can now be considered utter drivel. You are obviously a moron. Pot does not lead others to kill.

Okay. Think for yourself. THINK.

Pot lessens people's ability to reason. Someone might do something that they think is cool, cute, funny, wtf ever. You never know what that person will do. If that leads to deaths, then that leads to deaths. Just because you can't see it happening, doesn't mean it won't. You give too much credit to the fools of today.

WTF are you talking about? Where are these psycho pot-addled killers you speak of? Wouldn't we here about them in the news? I happen to know alot of very intelligent people that smoke pot - even a few Dr's! Can your miniscule psyche comprehend that Cobalt?
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor. :)

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?
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Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.


Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.
 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

"powerful" is a word that is open to interpretation. Some people have an easier time controlling themselves while under the influence of alcohol than they do under the influence of marajuana. Some have it the other way around.

Can you provide documentation of this or are you talking out of your ass here?
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NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: waylman
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: waylman
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Beau
Originally posted by: Vic
Driving while talking on cellphones is only illegal in very rare places, and not where I live. Plus, that wasn't my point and you know that. Hey, you got your position to defend. You think you can legislate a perfect world. The problem is that you are completely and foolishly wrong. You only make the world worse. But hey, I know your kind. When do you push for legislation to make it illegal to fart in a public place?
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Explain to me what my kind is?
Farting in a public place hardly puts lives in jeopardy.
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Neither does someone smoking weed in their own home put anyones life in jeopardy. Your point?

People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Anything you've said to this point can now be considered utter drivel. You are obviously a moron. Pot does not lead others to kill.

Okay. Think for yourself. THINK.

Pot lessens people's ability to reason. Someone might do something that they think is cool, cute, funny, wtf ever. You never know what that person will do. If that leads to deaths, then that leads to deaths. Just because you can't see it happening, doesn't mean it won't. You give too much credit to the fools of today.

WTF are you talking about? Where are these psycho pot-addled killers you speak of? Wouldn't we here about them in the news? I happen to know alot of very intelligent people that smoke pot - even a few Dr's! Can your miniscule psyche comprehend that Cobalt?

Yes. That's right. Because you don't hear about them in the news, they can't possibly exist.
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Those doctors are hardly intelligent. Lets not resort to belittling eachother and name calling.
 

Encryptic

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May 21, 2003
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Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
So instead of bitching about making pot legal, you should bitch about making cigarettes, alcohol, and over the counter drugs illegal.
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WTF? You think society is BETTER OFF with things that we kill eachother with every day? Man, you guys are FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKT UP!

Well, based on that reasoning, guns, cars, ALL drugs, walking, showering, fast food, etc...should all be illegal.

amish

If you can prove that there are more negative consequences than there are positive consequences, I might agree with you no matter what the topic.

OK, here. We'll use the shower as an example, Mr. Logic King.
rolleye.gif


Pro: You get clean in it

Cons: You can slip and fall
You can drown in it if you have a shower/bathtub with the drain closed.
It uses a lot of water.
Some people choose not to use a shower or bath, anyway.
It requires money, plumbing, and professionals to install and run it.

You want me to give you the same breakdown for GUNS or CARS, for fvck's sake? I'm sure we can find a lot more negative reasons than positive reasons for having those two things in society. Give it up. Everything has a bad side to it. Even WATER can kill you if you drink too much of it.

If you don't want to face the fact that marijuana DOES have benefits beyond getting people high and is not a tool of the Devil, feel free to remain deluded.

blah blah blah blah blah

There are other ways to keep yourself clean.


someone is gettin frustrated....and please... tell ME...how do you clean YOURSELF? don't tell me you wipe yourself down with a towl every night/morning...
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NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

"powerful" is a word that is open to interpretation. Some people have an easier time controlling themselves while under the influence of alcohol than they do under the influence of marajuana. Some have it the other way around.

Can you provide documentation of this or are you talking out of your ass here?
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Can you provide documentation that everyone is effected by pot or alcohol exactly the same way? Yeah, I didn't think so either.
 

Eli

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
How can you ignore the fact that we spend so much money putting harmless people away due to the so called drug war when something like alcohol is legal with certain rules and taxed?

I don't agree with that totally. Some are jailed there with good drug-based reasons such as selling to young kids. Others are correctly jailed based on the drug crime when that's the only evidence the police can get on them e.g. a known burglar jailed for pot possession. It's a way to get a known criminal off the streets if you can't get him on evidence of his normal crime.

Finally, I'm sure there are many that are/were just harmless recreational users, which is very unfortunate.

If made legal, laws could be erected to prevent some of the problems e.g. driving while intoxicated, selling/usage by minors, etc.

amish
Well, I agree with that.. but still, the drug war causes more problems than it solves by creating an underground criminal network. The drug war is what allows such an entity to function. If you could buy it with your pack of cigarettes, they wouldn't be able to charge so much for it, the criminals wouldn't be able to make money, and the selling of cannabis on the streets would shrink to the point that cigs have. You wouldn't sell it to make money, you would give it out just like people who smoke cigs do. Know what I mean?
 

Jzero

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Jzero
Pot lessens people's ability to reason. Someone might do something that they think is cool, cute, funny, wtf ever. You never know what that person will do. If that leads to deaths, then that leads to deaths. Just because you can't see it happening, doesn't mean it won't. You give too much credit to the fools of today.

SO does LOTS of things that are LEGAL. You don't give ENOUGH credit to the majority of society.

Maybe I don't. Either way, you're nothing short of a hypocrite if you lobby against one and not another.

So.....do YOU lobby against alcohol and tobacco, then?
I certainly do not. I support all three being legal but I'm in favor of them being regulated and controlled. I do my best to consistently support the notion that the government need to protect people from themselves nor need it attempt to legislate stupidity.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor. :)

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?
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Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.


Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.
 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

"powerful" is a word that is open to interpretation. Some people have an easier time controlling themselves while under the influence of alcohol than they do under the influence of marajuana. Some have it the other way around.

Can you provide documentation of this or are you talking out of your ass here?
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Can you provide documentation that everyone is effected by pot or alcohol exactly the same way? Yeah, I didn't think so either.

I wasn't the one making the broad generalizing statement here.

Document your point, or it's irrelevant.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Jzero
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Jzero
Pot lessens people's ability to reason. Someone might do something that they think is cool, cute, funny, wtf ever. You never know what that person will do. If that leads to deaths, then that leads to deaths. Just because you can't see it happening, doesn't mean it won't. You give too much credit to the fools of today.

SO does LOTS of things that are LEGAL. You don't give ENOUGH credit to the majority of society.

Maybe I don't. Either way, you're nothing short of a hypocrite if you lobby against one and not another.

So.....do YOU lobby against alcohol and tobacco, then?
I certainly do not. I support all three being legal but I'm in favor of them being regulated and controlled. I do my best to consistently support the notion that the government need to protect people from themselves nor need it attempt to legislate stupidity.

If the conversation comes up, I won't support anything other than the person's right to choose unless it's a situation where others are being effected outside of their control.
 

waylman

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Okay. Think for yourself. THINK.

Pot lessens people's ability to reason. Someone might do something that they think is cool, cute, funny, wtf ever. You never know what that person will do. If that leads to deaths, then that leads to deaths. Just because you can't see it happening, doesn't mean it won't. You give too much credit to the fools of today.


WTF are you talking about? Where are these psycho pot-addled killers you speak of? Wouldn't we here about them in the news? I happen to know alot of very intelligent people that smoke pot - even a few Dr's! Can your miniscule psyche comprehend that Cobalt?[/quote]

Yes. That's right. Because you don't hear about them in the news, they can't possibly exist.
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Those doctors are hardly intelligent. Lets not resort to belittling eachother and name calling.[/quote]

OK, so every single person in the world that smokes pot is unintelligent? Is that your belief?
 

Encryptic

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
So instead of bitching about making pot legal, you should bitch about making cigarettes, alcohol, and over the counter drugs illegal.
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rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif

WTF? You think society is BETTER OFF with things that we kill eachother with every day? Man, you guys are FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKT UP!

Well, based on that reasoning, guns, cars, ALL drugs, walking, showering, fast food, etc...should all be illegal.

amish

If you can prove that there are more negative consequences than there are positive consequences, I might agree with you no matter what the topic.

OK, here. We'll use the shower as an example, Mr. Logic King.
rolleye.gif


Pro: You get clean in it

Cons: You can slip and fall
You can drown in it if you have a shower/bathtub with the drain closed.
It uses a lot of water.
Some people choose not to use a shower or bath, anyway.
It requires money, plumbing, and professionals to install and run it.

You want me to give you the same breakdown for GUNS or CARS, for fvck's sake? I'm sure we can find a lot more negative reasons than positive reasons for having those two things in society. Give it up. Everything has a bad side to it. Even WATER can kill you if you drink too much of it.

If you don't want to face the fact that marijuana DOES have benefits beyond getting people high and is not a tool of the Devil, feel free to remain deluded.

blah blah blah blah blah

There are other ways to keep yourself clean.

Wow. Thanks for ignoring my points completely. If you want to argue about this, why should I give you the benefit of reading your posts? I guess I'll just spout off nonsense since it's easier than realizing I have a valid point. Have you even ever smoked pot? I'm guessing you haven't, because you're so "pure".
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NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
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Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Eli
Do you "against legalization" people realize why we compare it to alcohol so much? The fact is, they aren't really even comparable, besides the fact that they're both drugs.

We compare it to alcohol because alcohol is far more powerful a drug, yet it is legal. That's what boggles the mind.

"powerful" is a word that is open to interpretation. Some people have an easier time controlling themselves while under the influence of alcohol than they do under the influence of marajuana. Some have it the other way around.

Can you provide documentation of this or are you talking out of your ass here?
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Can you provide documentation that everyone is effected by pot or alcohol exactly the same way? Yeah, I didn't think so either.

I wasn't the one making the broad statement here.

Document your point, or it's irrelevant.

Think for yourself. Or documentation won't matter.
 

PHiuR

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor. :)

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?
rolleye.gif


Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.


Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.


i can say...that is me.
 

Electric Amish

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Yes. That's right. Because you don't hear about them in the news, they can't possibly exist. Those doctors are hardly intelligent. Lets not resort to belittling eachother and name calling.

Sure, they could, possibly exist. There are also crazy people that kill without any reason, so being crazy should be illegal too.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
So instead of bitching about making pot legal, you should bitch about making cigarettes, alcohol, and over the counter drugs illegal.
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif
rolleye.gif

WTF? You think society is BETTER OFF with things that we kill eachother with every day? Man, you guys are FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKT UP!

Well, based on that reasoning, guns, cars, ALL drugs, walking, showering, fast food, etc...should all be illegal.

amish

If you can prove that there are more negative consequences than there are positive consequences, I might agree with you no matter what the topic.

OK, here. We'll use the shower as an example, Mr. Logic King.
rolleye.gif


Pro: You get clean in it

Cons: You can slip and fall
You can drown in it if you have a shower/bathtub with the drain closed.
It uses a lot of water.
Some people choose not to use a shower or bath, anyway.
It requires money, plumbing, and professionals to install and run it.

You want me to give you the same breakdown for GUNS or CARS, for fvck's sake? I'm sure we can find a lot more negative reasons than positive reasons for having those two things in society. Give it up. Everything has a bad side to it. Even WATER can kill you if you drink too much of it.

If you don't want to face the fact that marijuana DOES have benefits beyond getting people high and is not a tool of the Devil, feel free to remain deluded.

blah blah blah blah blah

There are other ways to keep yourself clean.

Wow. Thanks for ignoring my points completely. If you want to argue about this, why should I give you the benefit of reading your posts? I guess I'll just spout off nonsense since it's easier than realizing I have a valid point. Have you even ever smoked pot? I'm guessing you haven't, because you're so "pure".
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I did read your post. The fact that there was nothing really to reply to doesn't mean I didn't read it.
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Encryptic

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Originally posted by: N8Magic
Originally posted by: FFMCobalt


People under the effects of pot can LEAVE their homes and yards. Jesus! Where the hell is your logic? You're almost as bad at reasoning as the potheads. People who are high on pot do not reason well. The do STUPID THINGS. They run the risk of leaving their humble abode and killing others, potentially.

So either lobby for all of this crap to be illegal and deal with a safer society (ooo, that's gonna be hard), or lobby for all this crap to be legal and deal with a worse society.

I choose a better society.

Let me start by saying that your debating skills are pretty poor. :)

Where is YOUR logic? Using your example, alcohol should also be illegal because someone might drive after having 6 beers. Maybe they should only sell 1 beer at a time and then make you take a breathalyzer before you can purchase the next one?
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Can you give examples of poor reasoning and stupid things that people do when they're under the influence? You make it sound like anyone who smokes a joint is automatically converted into a raving mass murderer lunatic while they're under the influence. Being someone who has smoked before, I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth. If anything, I sat on my ass and told jokes to my friends while listening to music. I had no desire to go out and drive around, nor did I want to go out and cause trouble.

Until you have first hand experience, you have no idea. It's nothing like getting drunk and rowdy like you seem to think.


Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

Oh, and I'm sure you've asked the rest of the world, haven't you? Get your head out of your ass.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Yes. That's right. Because you don't hear about them in the news, they can't possibly exist. Those doctors are hardly intelligent. Lets not resort to belittling eachother and name calling.

Sure, they could, possibly exist. There are also crazy people that kill without any reason, so being crazy should be illegal too.

That would put me away for good. :p
 

N8Magic

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Originally posted by: FFMCobalt
Originally posted by: Encryptic
Spoken like someone who ACTUALLY has experience. I can vouch for this. When I get high, I'm much more inclined to sit on my butt and listen to music or watch a good movie. In short, I'm RELAXING. I'm not getting drunk and obnoxious or thinking that I can drive my car when I obviously can't. Go ask a group of marijuana users what they do, and the majority of them are going to come back with the same answer.

That's YOU. That's not EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD.

You're right, that's me.

... and everyone else I know that smokes marijuana. (and there are no shortage of pot smokers in Canada)