Why is it that these psychos are called 'Mentally Ill'?

[mammador]

You are being a hypocrite about psychiatry's usefulness when you claim it needs to be outlawed, if mental illness is a viable construct as you claim.

I think you are trolling just because you think you are LOL funny, when you are just looking pathetic to everyone else.

Look, bro.

It's patently clear to see that some people don't function well or have faulty minds.

I support rational medicine, isn't that how all Western medicine is?

It seems you all believe in arbitrary assignments lol..

And if I contradict? meh, most other people do. If so, prove me wrong. Just by looking at this forum, I WILL be proven right. ^_^

 

[Mixolydian]

Just by looking in the mirror, I WILL be proven right. ^_^

ftfy.

 

[Howard]

lol. yeah, vilify me for being an idiot lol.

Yes please

 

[mammador]

So there aren't wild contradictions on this forum?

And you dispute this is normal human conduct?

You also dispute that humans are prone to error? OK. haha..

 

[Vic Vega]

...

 

[mammador]

ftfy.

In English, please.

I stand by my statement.

 

[OverVolt]

lol.. so you distrust mental conditions?

You distrust science,yet you use a computer and the Web based on scientific principles? hmm..

All conditions in the DSM V make sense, since they are tested and treatable. I don't think you understand the diagnostic criteria that well IMO. Tell me, if a doctor told you that eating transfats in excess is harmful, would you distrust him or her? Or tell him that s/he's talking bull?

Psych is one of the more fluffy sciences. They diagnose way too many kids with ADHD, depression, etc.

 

[mammador]

Sorry, but unlike all of you I don't accept misdiagnoses as "that's the breaks". I have a conscience.

 

[Paul98]

Because they are... But not all of those who are mentally ill are psychos.

 

[akahoovy]

Sorry, but unlike all of you I don't accept misdiagnoses as "that's the breaks". I have a conscience.

So the subtext here is that you have a mental illness that you feel was misdiagnosed and think the doctor was in the wrong?

 

[mammador]

ftfy.

Hmm.. OK..

So this is why persons here say:

- I'm a nice guy
- Fuck you asshole!

or

- I feel down without any friends
- I went partying with my bros the other night and it was cool!!!


I don't really care either way, as I said it's normal human conduct. When I was younger, people often used to say "if you can't beat them, join them."

 

[mammador]

So the subtext here is that you have a mental illness that you feel was misdiagnosed and think the doctor was in the wrong?

Eh? No. I've never been diagnosed with a mental illness. This is distinct from asserting that arbitrary diagnoses is not wrong, when it's patently wrong in other branches. Go tell somebody who had a healthy kidney removed that "those are the breaks".

 

[Paul98]

Nobody is perfect, none of our brains work "perfectly." What we see, feel, think, do, experience, along with our biology all play a role in how we think. The way things turn out, and how we make our decisions may not even be our own, much is just subconscious.

What we need to do is figure out where the real problems stem from and who is a danger.

Edit: we can already see people who are unable to come to reasonable conclusions, or follow evidence and come up with the correct conclusion.

 

[mammador]

Nobody is perfect, none of our brains work "perfectly." What we see, feel, think, do, experience, along with our biology all play a role in how we think. The way things turn out, and how we make our decisions may not even be our own, much is just subconscious.

What we need to do is figure out where the real problems stem from and who is a danger.

Edit: we can already see people who are unable to come to reasonable conclusions, or follow evidence and come up with the correct conclusion.

OK, so you're saying some have illnesses at whim, and others don't. OK, gotcha.

Yeah, two people with jaundice have the exact symptoms but one doesn't.

 

[WelshBloke]

OK, so you're saying some have illnesses at whim, and others don't. OK, gotcha.

Yeah, two people with jaundice have the exact symptoms but one doesn't.

Dude what the fuck are you trying to argue?

That mental illness doesn't exist?
That mental illness is impossible to diagnose?
That mental illness is impossible to treat?

 

[PliotronX]

I'm surprised no one has quoted George Carlin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67k9eEw9AY

 

[mammador]

Dude what the fuck are you trying to argue?

That mental illness doesn't exist?
That mental illness is impossible to diagnose?
That mental illness is impossible to treat?

Dude what the fuck are you trying to question?

Mental illness doesn't exist.
Mental illness is based on subjective diagnoses, based on the whim of a psychiatrist.
Mental illness is impossible to treat.

I think you are mentally ill, and I am not. lol..

 

[WelshBloke]

Dude what the fuck are you trying to question?

Mental illness doesn't exist.
Mental illness is based on subjective diagnoses, based on the whim of a psychiatrist.
Mental illness is impossible to treat.

I think you are mentally ill, and I am not. lol..

No seriously what are you trying to argue?

Psychiatric medicine is just the treatment and diagnosis of mental illness.

You can argue that it could be better but I'd be interested to hear how you'd do that.

Edit; I posted three questions earlier, they are not leading questions and they are pretty simple. Why not answer them?

Edit 2; wait those aren't really your answers are they?

 

[zinfamous]

..is it because "psychos" are, in fact, mentally ill?

:hmm:

just a thought.

 

[Jeff7]

Mental illness can encompass all kinds of things.
Some mentally-ill people just see or hear things that aren't there. Others try to kill and destroy. Different manifestations of different problems.

I'm surprised no one has quoted George Carlin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h67k9eEw9AY

Wait..."toilet paper" became "bathroom tissue?"

I hear "shit ticket" about as often as I do "toilet paper."

Hell, "toilet paper" is a soft word, or at least an inaccurate one. Its primary function certainly isn't to do anything to the toilet.

 

[mammador]

Expect not all person who harm others are mentally ill.

Ranging from a schoolyard bully, to a genocidal dictator. If anybody disputes that, then explain why many such persons are tested and not seen as "ill"?

So much for "psychiatry". :awe:

 

[dighn]

..is it because "psychos" are, in fact, mentally ill?

:hmm:

just a thought.

they are. although for some of them, the proper remedy is death.

 

[who?]

The Navy yard shooter had symptoms of schizophrenia but nobody acted to get him treatment or incarceration before he murdered people, the same is true of Jared Loughner. If we all assume that somebody else will deal with it, nobody does.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I hate how they label some murderers as mentally ill and then they get off easy. I don't care what they are, if they comitted a crime they should be punished equally. They had enough thought process going on in their brain to go forward with the murder. If a dog bites someone we put it down, even though the dog may not understand what happened and why it was bad. Why should we treat mentally ill any different? They still did the crime, they should do the time. It's not nice to say, but do we really want those people in the gene pool anyway? Lock em up if they murder someone.

 

[WelshBloke]

... Hell, "toilet paper" is a soft word, or at least an inaccurate one. Its primary function certainly isn't to do anything to the toilet.

eh? You use it when you use the toilet, you don't use it when you have a bath.