Why is it that these psychos are called 'Mentally Ill'?

[FalseChristian]

I'm mentally ill and I have no desire to hurt anyone but to help if I can. It's wrong to stereotype evil psychopaths as 'Mentally Ill'. It's got to stop!

 

[Mixolydian]

wat?

 

[Howard]

You need help.

 

[Oldgamer]

Ummm maybe because they are mentally ill? Maybe you're getting the treatment you need to keep you stable, but many many of these folks are not getting that help. Then they eventually snap or go off the deep end. An untreated mentally ill person can pose a risk to themselves and others. I understand what you are trying to say though, that we shouldn't paint a broad picture of all those who have mental illnesses as being dangerous. Not all mentally ill persons do these things, and they are actually quite rare, its just that the news sensationalizes it and then people lose perspective on how often this really occurs.

 

[mammador]

Because they are. Unless you're saying that sociopathy is not in the DSM.

 

[DaTT]

Why are psychopaths usually stereotyped as evil?

 

[mammador]

Because they are? lolol. Prove they are not.

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

I'm mentally ill and I have no desire to hurt anyone but to help if I can. It's wrong to stereotype evil psychopaths as 'Mentally Ill'. It's got to stop!

False equivalency. I don't know what mental illness you have, but maybe it's stopping you from thinking logically.

 

[BoomerD]

Because they are? lolol. Prove they are not.

Prove that "evil" actually exists.

(not just that there are bad, nasty people who do bad, nasty things...but actual evil as a quantitative force.)

 

[mammador]

It doesn't. And? All morals are subjective, and most likely don't exist.

This doesn't mean that mental illness is not a viable construct. So some people do not have minds that cannot function properly?

 

[SlickSnake]

Nobody is 100% perfect in the head, nobody. We don't even use most of the brains we have, according to scientists. Everybody has mood swings, good days and bad, everybody. The difference is by how much. Are your mood swings extreme? Are you easily aroused to impatience or anger? Some people can control their moods easily, others cannot. Some need coffee to wake them up in the mornings, or caffeine around lunch to finish off the work day. Maybe you need a cigarette to pick you up and clear your head a few times a day. Maybe you need a beer or 2 before bed to calm you down. All these mind control actions are done billions of times a day by nearly everyone on the planet in one form or another. The differences are how much do you need to be boosted or medicated to get where you want to be mentally?

 

[mammador]

OK, so arbitrary criteria based on the morals of psychiatrists. gotcha..

 

[mammador]

Ummm maybe because they are mentally ill? Maybe you're getting the treatment you need to keep you stable, but many many of these folks are not getting that help. Then they eventually snap or go off the deep end. An untreated mentally ill person can pose a risk to themselves and others. I understand what you are trying to say though, that we shouldn't paint a broad picture of all those who have mental illnesses as being dangerous. Not all mentally ill persons do these things, and they are actually quite rare, its just that the news sensationalizes it and then people lose perspective on how often this really occurs.

Whilst mental illness exists, are all violent people ill?

 

[DaTT]

Because they are? lolol. Prove they are not.

I would rather you prove to me that all psychopaths are evil.

 

[mammador]

Prove what? I don't even believe that evil exists.

 

[SlickSnake]

It doesn't. And? All morals are subjective, and most likely don't exist.

This doesn't mean that mental illness is not a viable construct. So some people do not have minds that cannot function properly?

You are being a hypocrite about psychiatry's usefulness when you claim it needs to be outlawed, if mental illness is a viable construct as you claim.

I think you are trolling just because you think you are LOL funny, when you are just looking pathetic to everyone else.

 

[mammador]

No, I say things I don't mean. Only a fool doesn't believe that the mind cannot get faulty.

YOU say contrary things. EVERY HUMAN BEING does!! Why is that so difficult to comprehend? lol.. (eek, that mannerism again!)

 

[mammador]

If anything, I respect aspects of it based on science and research, you know as general Western medicine is. Science cannot be arbitrary, even if it's an inexact science. Economics is not and most likely never will be an exact science. It doesn't mean that economic research is simply ad hoc, or that its conclusions have no rational base behind them.

I think incidentally that most conditions in the DSM V make sense, even Caffeine Withdrawal. If a person is continuously distressed or cannot function, how can they be NOT ill?

 

[SlickSnake]

No, I say things I don't mean. Only a fool doesn't believe that the mind cannot get faulty.

YOU say contrary things. EVERY HUMAN BEING does!! Why is that so difficult to comprehend? lol.. (eek, that mannerism again!)

So you are admitting to being a pointless troll then, that's good enough for me. So nothing you say should be taken seriously or responded to in the least. You're like an annoying forum fly that buzzes around stupidly just because it hasn't been swatted yet by the ban hammer.

 

[SlickSnake]

If anything, I respect aspects of it based on science and research, you know as general Western medicine is. Science cannot be arbitrary, even if it's an inexact science. Economics is not and most likely never will be an exact science. It doesn't mean that economic research is simply ad hoc, or that its conclusions have no rational base behind them.

I think incidentally that most conditions in the DSM V make sense, even Caffeine Withdrawal. If a person is continuously distressed or cannot function, how can they be NOT ill?

Back pedal much?

 

[mammador]

lol. yeah, vilify me for being human lol.

 

[leftyman]

Crazy people are fun, you never know what they are going to do or say.

 

[OverVolt]

Whilst mental illness exists, are all violent people ill?

They are less likely to be perps of violence and more likely to be victims of violence AFAIK.

 

[OverVolt]

If anything, I respect aspects of it based on science and research, you know as general Western medicine is. Science cannot be arbitrary, even if it's an inexact science. Economics is not and most likely never will be an exact science. It doesn't mean that economic research is simply ad hoc, or that its conclusions have no rational base behind them.

I think incidentally that most conditions in the DSM V make sense, even Caffeine Withdrawal. If a person is continuously distressed or cannot function, how can they be NOT ill?

The way around caffeine withdrawal is to take ibuprofen for 3-4 days around the clock as per the directions. So a panel of 25 doctors or whatever sit around talking about caffeine withdrawal getting paid $60/hr and god knows how many NIH studies on the effects of caffeine withdrawal and in reality some joe schmoe like me knows to just take ibuprofen OTC.

 

[mammador]

lol.. so you distrust mental conditions?

You distrust science,yet you use a computer and the Web based on scientific principles? hmm..

All conditions in the DSM V make sense, since they are tested and treatable. I don't think you understand the diagnostic criteria that well IMO. Tell me, if a doctor told you that eating transfats in excess is harmful, would you distrust him or her? Or tell him that s/he's talking bull?