why is it so hard for the government to not spend more than they take in?

[Axon]

http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-democracies-will-always-go-bankrupt.html

Read it. Understand it.

Even after reading this, I'd still fall back on my Watson theory.

 

[Triumph]

Wrong. See my link above. Even people frugal in their personal life can and often will vote for expensive government programs.

No...I'm pretty sure the American lifestyle has a lot to do with it.

 

[Dissipate]

No...I'm pretty sure the American lifestyle has a lot to do with it.

Care to explain why major European countries are facing bankruptcy as well? When you can walk into a voting booth and vote yourself whatever you want (e.g. low taxes AND expensive services), it doesn't matter what *YOUR* lifestyle is. You can have whatever personal lifestyle you want and walk around being one massive political contradiction. Democracy guarantees that those who cater to the irrational will win elections over those who do not. How can you compete with someone who promises low taxes and expensive services? You can't, unless you are offering the same. Democracy allows and rewards massive psychological contradictions through elections and politicians.

 

[Mursilis]

Care to explain why major European countries are facing bankruptcy as well? When you can walk into a voting booth and vote yourself whatever you want (e.g. low taxes AND expensive services), it doesn't matter what *YOUR* lifestyle is.

I would respond that those people who practice fiscal prudence on a personal level are less likely to support the unsustainable model of low taxes/high services on a gov't level. While in theory you're correct that a person who practices fiscal responsibility on a personal level could just as well still vote for fiscal irresponsibility from their leaders, but how likely is that, really?

 

[tk149]

The state of Wisconsin HAD a rainy day fund, their former Republican Governor (twelve years? in office)never put money in it? a required $65 million a year in case of a recession! Have I got that right?

Not sure who you're referring to here. The previous governor was Jim Doyle, a Democrat. He was governor from 2003 to 2011. If he started with a rainy day fund, he sure as heck spent it all by 2011.

 

[tk149]

Except you are not telling the truth.

The Wisconson Republican attack has nothing to do with spending.

It's all about trying to get more corrupt power for themselves by attacking the funding for Democrats, so they can transfer even more wealth from everyone else to the rich.

The Union has agreed to make all the cuts the governor wants - he said no.

I'm surprised he didn't just make his demands to cut crazy so they'd have to say no and he could like that it's the money.

So you are against giving workers a CHOICE when it comes to spending their hard-earned money?

Why are you not outraged that unions give so much money to the Democrats?

Do you think it would be okay for a private corporation to directly charge every employee a "political" fee, and then give that money directly to the Republicans?

At least the private company employees could quit and find a company without such a fee. WI Union government workers don't have that choice.

Why are you against choice?

 

[sandorski]

So you are against giving workers a CHOICE when it comes to spending their hard-earned money?

Why are you not outraged that unions give so much money to the Democrats?

Do you think it would be okay for a private corporation to directly charge every employee a "political" fee, and then give that money directly to the Republicans?

At least the private company employees could quit and find a company without such a fee. WI Union government workers don't have that choice.

Why are you against choice?

Union and Corporate funding in Politics should be Outlawed. Let Individuals drive Politics.

 

[Zebo]

Care to explain why major European countries are facing bankruptcy as well? When you can walk into a voting booth and vote yourself whatever you want (e.g. low taxes AND expensive services), it doesn't matter what *YOUR* lifestyle is. You can have whatever personal lifestyle you want and walk around being one massive political contradiction. Democracy guarantees that those who cater to the irrational will win elections over those who do not. How can you compete with someone who promises low taxes and expensive services? You can't, unless you are offering the same. Democracy allows and rewards massive psychological contradictions through elections and politicians.

what does bankruptcy mean to you? You do realize it's only money right? Paper, or digits representing value. The value is still there even if currency is debased or started anew.

 

[piasabird]

Quit giving the federal government money?

They take your money from your state and then spend it in another state like California, because California mismanages their money.

The account is empty and the credit cards are full. Now is the time for pain and sufferring!

 

[wuliheron]

Union and Corporate funding in Politics should be Outlawed. Let Individuals drive Politics.

Stop your whining. No one is forcing anyone to vote for these yoyos taking money from corporations and special interest groups. The American sold their government to the highest bidder long ago and then took out a loan when the money ran out. It's a tradition that dates back to the original Athenian democracy where every vote was up for sale. It's unamerican to suggest something can't be bought and sold!

 

[sandorski]

Stop your whining. No one is forcing anyone to vote for these yoyos taking money from corporations and special interest groups. The American sold their government to the highest bidder long ago and then took out a loan when the money ran out. It's a tradition that dates back to the original Athenian democracy where every vote was up for sale. It's unamerican to suggest something can't be bought and sold!

hehe

 

[Dissipate]

what does bankruptcy mean to you? You do realize it's only money right? Paper, or digits representing value. The value is still there even if currency is debased or started anew.

What value? Currency that is debased is by definition losing value.