Why is it so easy to get weed nowdays?

[dpodblood]

It's funny. I smoked weed maybe 3 times in my life (I'm 35.) Never thought much about it. If they go out an legalize it, I think I might become a severe pothead since I know tons of people I could finally "share" the hobby with...legally.

I am one of the millions of new users that will become drug addicts if they legalize weed.

That would be your own fault for deciding to abuse a substance just because it's legal. Alcohol is legal; does that mean your doing to drink a pint of vodka, or down a pack of beer every day? Salvia is legal too, are you going to smoke it 24x7 and walk around in a hallucinogenic trance all the time just because it's legal? If your a drug addict it's because of your behavior, its got nothing to do with being legal/illegal.

 

[Phoenix86]

Why? Have you ever smoked with me? Have you ever seen me drive? I highly doubt you have any idea what the hell you are talking about...

Even if you believe this, saying this does not help your case so don't.

Equate it to alcohol and stick to those arguments because they are extremely reasonable.

 

[dpodblood]

Why? Have you ever smoked with me? Have you ever seen me drive? I highly doubt you have any idea what the hell you are talking about...

No offense dude I don't know you, but the affects of smoking dope are pretty widely know. It will decrease your motor skills, and slow your reaction speed. It will also distort your perception of reality. Saying you drive better stoned because you're more careful is like saying you can drive drunk because you know you're drunk and therefore you're more careful. It just doesn't work that way. Yes the affects of MJ are different for everyone, but there's no escaping that it's going to affect your ability to drive properly.

 

[AndroidVageta]

No offense dude I don't know you, but the affects of smoking dope are pretty widely know. It will decrease your motor skills, and slow your reaction speed. It will also distort your perception of reality. Saying you drive better stoned because you're more careful is like saying you can drive drunk because you know you're drunk and therefore you're more careful. It just doesn't work that way. Yes the affects of MJ are different for everyone, but there's no escaping that it's going to affect your ability to drive properly.

Not necessarily...I would agree with you had I not smoked for 6 months then decided to smoke a blunt of the stickiest of icky...then yeah, I couldn't drive then...but Im a everyday smoker...so the "widely known" effects dont a affect me NEARLY as hard core as it does n00bs or those that dont smoke often. Now thats not to say that I can always drive stoned...if I just smoked a shit load and Im glued to the couch then I dont drive...but thats just for obvious safety reasons...if I just smoked a joint or its been a couple hours then I can drive fine...like I said, it just all depends on the person...different strokes for different folks! Weed affects everyone differently...some can handle their shit others cant

Reminds me of this one episode of Cops where this guy gets pulled over for driving a little too slow...they give him a field sobriety test and he passes perfectly...just when he is about to be let go his pipe and bag fall out of his pocket...talk about a bad day...

 

[SlitheryDee]

No offense dude I don't know you, but the affects of smoking dope are pretty widely know. It will decrease your motor skills, and slow your reaction speed. It will also distort your perception of reality. Saying you drive better stoned because you're more careful is like saying you can drive drunk because you know you're drunk and therefore you're more careful. It just doesn't work that way. Yes the affects of MJ are different for everyone, but there's no escaping that it's going to affect your ability to drive properly.

Didn't someone post a video showing a guy who was tested on his driving ability sober and after smoking a joint? IIRC he scored much better on pot because he was driving more carefully. I guess YMMV with pot though.

 

[dpodblood]

Didn't someone post a video showing a guy who was tested on his driving ability sober and after smoking a joint? IIRC he scored much better on pot because he was driving more carefully. I guess YMMV with pot though.

So driving carefully stoned vs driving carefully sober = better? I don't think so.

 

[SlitheryDee]

So driving carefully stoned vs driving carefully sober = better? I don't think so.

Well driving carefully period is always best, and the test was hardly scientific. Hell, the guy might have faked his sober results, but he still did quite well stoned. I'm willing to accept that some people might be able to drive as well while mildly stoned as they can while sober.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Well driving carefully period is always best, and the test was hardly scientific. Hell, the guy might have faked his sober results, but he still did quite well stoned. I'm willing to accept that some people might be able to drive as well while mildly stoned as they can while sober.

They can. What some people dont understand, or refuse too, is that weed doesnt affect you like alcohol does. Alcohol completely fucks you up...mentally, physically...weed...ehhh, not so much...refer to my post above.

 

[dpodblood]

Well driving carefully period is always best, and the test was hardly scientific. Hell, the guy might have faked his sober results, but he still did quite well stoned. I'm willing to accept that some people might be able to drive as well while mildly stoned as they can while sober.

I agree. I'm not saying it should be zero tolerance. Just like there is a legal blood alcohol limit, there would need to be something similar for pot.

 

[dpodblood]

They can. What some people dont understand, or refuse too, is that weed doesnt affect you like alcohol does. Alcohol completely fucks you up...mentally, physically...weed...ehhh, not so much...refer to my post above.

Weed doesn't "fuck you up mentally" LOL.

What's the point of smoking it if it doesn't...

 

[AndroidVageta]

Weed doesn't "fuck you up mentally" LOL.

What's the point of smoking it if it doesn't...

Well I mean, obviously it does depending on how much you smoke...but with me at least, theres a BIG difference between being baked and being wasted...I can be high as hell but still talk normally and basically know what the fuck is going on...where as being drunk as fuck you dont even remember what happened the night before...

Can you go to work and do your job perfectly fine stoned? Sure you can if you arent paranoid like a pussy...can you go to work completely plastered and do you job perfectly well? You cant even read the damn keyboard...

 

[Zedtom]

I walk my dog every morning and can smell reefer every few blocks. The pungent smell carries from inside people's houses or when they pass by in a car. It's for sale at weed shops all over Denver, so no big surprise.

 

[waggy]

its easy to get weed now? wow lol i found its harder now to get it then when i was in high school or college (hell in college it was damn near free lol)

 

[FelixDeCat]

Why do you think the drug dealers are in a position to possibly overthrow the Mexican government? Because so many people have become slaves to pot, all paying the drug dealers, increasing their reach power and making them masters of pot heads.


ps. I dont find easy or hard to come by as Im not looking for it or any other type of mind altering drug, including alcohol.

 

[AndroidVageta]

Why do you think the drug dealers are in a position to possibly overthrow the Mexican government? Because so many people have become slaves to pot, all paying the drug dealers, increasing their reach power and making them masters of pot heads.


ps. I dont find easy or hard to come by as Im not looking for it or any other type of mind altering drug, including alcohol.

Oh OK...so we have to let the government have all the power and control...cause they're the last ones to abuse that...........................

 

[soulcougher73]

Legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it.

It is not that BAD of a drug compared to the other things out there. We would save a ton of money just on the prison aspect of it alone if it was decriminalized. Plus when was the last time you saw a news report of a couple pot heads holding up a liqour store or mugging someone. If it does become legalized i think ill buy stock in 7-11 or Quik Trip etc

 

[AndroidVageta]

Legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it.

It is not that BAD of a drug compared to the other things out there. We would save a ton of money just on the prison aspect of it alone if it was decriminalized. Plus when was the last time you saw a news report of a couple pot heads holding up a liqour store or mugging someone. If it does become legalized i think ill buy stock in 7-11 or Quik Trip etc

This is something that a lot of people dont understand is that weed is not that bad. I honestly cant think of anything good that alcohol has over marijuana...its safer, better for your health (is beer used in any medical way?), generally doesnt incapacitate you the way alcohol does, 0 deaths per year, etc etc...

This is why I laugh at all the anti-drug campaigns out there...youre going to spend millions to make sure little Bobby doesnt take a hit of a joint but all other drugs are for the most part ignored...like the legal ones...like alcohol and salvia...priorities people!!!

 

[dpodblood]

This is something that a lot of people dont understand is that weed is not that bad. I honestly cant think of anything good that alcohol has over marijuana...its safer, better for your health (is beer used in any medical way?), generally doesnt incapacitate you the way alcohol does, 0 deaths per year, etc etc...

This is why I laugh at all the anti-drug campaigns out there...youre going to spend millions to make sure little Bobby doesnt take a hit of a joint but all other drugs are for the most part ignored...like the legal ones...like alcohol and salvia...priorities people!!!

That I would agree with 100%. I would be totally for legalizing it, even though I'm not interested in using it myself? Why? Because your exactly right, Pot is not that bad, and certainly no worse than alcohol. What makes it so bad then? Drug dealers... The fact that people, and worse kids end up having to deal with some lowlife rather than being able to just go to a store and get some. Eventually they are going to be convinced to try and new harder drug. If it was legal and regulated, it wouldn't happen, and people wouldn't need to go deal with some dealer just to try some.

 

[AndroidVageta]

That I would agree with 100%. I would be totally for legalizing it, even though I'm not interested in using it myself? Why? Because your exactly right, Pot is not that bad, and certainly no worse than alcohol. What makes it so bad then? Drug dealers... The fact that people, and worse kids end up having to deal with some lowlife rather than being able to just go to a store and get some. Eventually they are going to be convinced to try and new harder drug. If it was legal and regulated, it wouldn't happen, and people wouldn't need to go deal with some dealer just to try some.

Drug dealers arent that bad depending on what they sell and where you are...inner city projects...yeah, dealers are going to be bad...they have to be to stay in the game...middle America suburbia? Drug dealers there are some white college kid lol...plus, again it depends on what they sell. Ive never met a dealer that only dealt with pot who was "ghetto" or a complete jackass/mean motherfucker.

As far as weed being a gateway drug...well that I actually agree on...but I think its up to good education and parenting to let little Johnny know that weed is like alcohol and meth is like the Devil...I smoke weed, and I can honestly say that Ive tried other drugs because of the fact that at the time the people I hung out with (who I hung out with was because they smoked too) had some friends come over that had some coke...so I ended up trying it too...shit, Ive done everything in the book, but I also have self control and know what drugs can seriously fuck you up in the long run like meth and heroin. So yes, weed is something I consider to be a gateway drug, but that doesnt mean that little Johnny will become a crack head. HELL! I knew a woman who was a meth addict...like straight up missing teeth, no home, no car, no job, etc...straight meth whore...she had NEVER smoked weed before in her life. Not ONCE...went straight from coke to crack to meth...SOOO...weed is not the root of all evil.

 

[darkxshade]

So driving carefully stoned vs driving carefully sober = better? I don't think so.

I don't know about driving since I wouldn't risk it but I will say one thing. When I was in college, I would be godly at games[esp counter-strike] when I was high than I would be sober. The thing is that pot makes things more enjoyable so it would not be entirely untrue that one could drive better high if they enjoy driving.

Basically pot makes you horrible at multi-tasking because it makes you focus your concentration and attention to one thing at any given time[Which is why movies are more enjoyable, or music sound better, etc]. So it's not about being careful stoned vs careful sober since being careful sober would trump being stoned imo. It's that with pot, you're subconsciously forced to concentrate at the one task you are focused on thus making you a better driver whereas if you were sober, your mind wouldn't make that compensation. That said, pot smokers would drive horribly imo if they have passengers just for the reason above. You talk, someone cracks a joke, you laugh uncontrollably and lose control of the car.

 

[bigdog1218]

This is something that a lot of people dont understand is that weed is not that bad. I honestly cant think of anything good that alcohol has over marijuana...its safer, better for your health (is beer used in any medical way?), generally doesnt incapacitate you the way alcohol does, 0 deaths per year, etc etc...

This is why I laugh at all the anti-drug campaigns out there...youre going to spend millions to make sure little Bobby doesnt take a hit of a joint but all other drugs are for the most part ignored...like the legal ones...like alcohol and salvia...priorities people!!!

If you weren't completely biased you would know beer and wine have been shown to have health benefits. Also you keep generalizing that everytime someone drinks they get drunk. When you grow up you'll realize just like weed it's about moderation and self control.

Also, I don't see why people think legalizing it would make such a huge difference. Even if they legalize using it, selling and buying it on the streets would still be illegal. Plus add to that the ridiculous taxes, ~$6 per pack of cigarettes in NY, and what exactly would change? Your head lives in some utopian pot society and you act like it has no effect on you.

 

[PimpJuice]

Thats a blatant stereotype...Im a pot smoker every day but Im not a lazy person or underachiever, I workout everyday, I have a good job and make plenty of money...Im even going back to school next year...what have you done "PimpJuice"? However, some people are lazy when they smoke but the same could be said for a lot of things though...do Lay-Z-Boy recliners make people lazy and underachievers? Should we outlaw them too? Because I guarantee that a lot of people would agree with me...

Over all though...I must say...if alcohol is legal being the HORRIBLE drug that it is for so so so so so many reasons (death, accidents, violence and abuse, etc etc etc...) then I see NO reason why weed is illegal OTHER than prehistoric laws made by the rich who were scared that the cheaper more versatile hemp would ruin their businesses and the more obvious reasons like how to tax it and all that other government BULL-SHIT that has to be intertwined with everything you do in life...

You got defensive really fast. I've done as much if not more than you. I was generalizing and the statement still stands. Yes, there are many people that don't fit the statement but I seriously doubt you're one of them. You sound like a tool.

 

[Gooberlx2]

No, I can drive stoned perfectly fine...if not better than when Im "sober" because of the fact that I like to be extra careful.

I had the pot legalization discussion with my cop neighbor last weekend, and we did get on the tangent of DUIs and pot smokers. He mentioned that a LOT of the smokers who fail their field sobriety tests are certain they drive better when they're stoned.