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Why is it like pulling teeth, to give away legit gaming desktop PCs these days. Sheesh.

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That's making some assumptions. The Ryzen 1600 / 32GB DDR4 / RX 570 8GB / SSD rig that I custom-built for one of his kids, I told him that most of the parts were new, and it was an RGB custom build, gaming PC, around $600 or so, but he still didn't want it, even for free

That's a nice sounding system! It's probably a bit faster than the Core i7-3770 gaming rig that I'm using now. I upgraded it with SSD storage and a GeForce 1060 a few years ago, but it's still due for an upgrade to a newer Ryzen 3000 class system.
 
I hope you checked the expiry dates on those Chromebooks.
Seconded. I bought a cheap (like $60) refurbished Chromebook off of Newegg. Well, it worked OK, but then I learned the awful truth - Chromebooks have an "expiration date", after which, they will NO LONGER RECEIVE UPDATES, which are essential to that platform. Well done, Google, well done. Lots of e-waste and platform lock-in, requiring re-purchase every few years. NO THANKS.
 
Seconded. I bought a cheap (like $60) refurbished Chromebook off of Newegg. Well, it worked OK, but then I learned the awful truth - Chromebooks have an "expiration date", after which, they will NO LONGER RECEIVE UPDATES, which are essential to that platform. Well done, Google, well done. Lots of e-waste and platform lock-in, requiring re-purchase every few years. NO THANKS.
I wonder if you can flip the switch and covert it to run full Linux instead?
 
I will always have a gaming PC, but even my upgrades are getting less frequent. My Boomer parents and relatives were the beneficiaries of my outdated systems, but they all use tablets now.

I don’t even need a cutting edge system anymore because I find myself revisiting a lot of games from the golden age of PC gaming in the late 90s and early 00s. For current games, I find myself gravitating more to puzzle games like the Witness or Talos Principle.

That kind of fits me. I bought a pre-built through Costco this year. First time in over 20 years I didn't build one myself. Just tired of the hassles, I guess....Sadly, I use my iPad far more than I do the new PC. Haven't found any newer games that get my attention like the older ones did. Maybe they're getting too "complicated," I know most of the better games are on-line multi-player...something that's never interested me much...and the ones that do offer single player "campaigns" just don't appeal to me much. It sucks that some of my favorite games from yesteryear won't play on Windows 10...BF2, COD2...those install disks are just taking up space in my games cupboard... 🙁
 
That kind of fits me. I bought a pre-built through Costco this year. First time in over 20 years I didn't build one myself. Just tired of the hassles, I guess....Sadly, I use my iPad far more than I do the new PC. Haven't found any newer games that get my attention like the older ones did. Maybe they're getting too "complicated," I know most of the better games are on-line multi-player...something that's never interested me much...and the ones that do offer single player "campaigns" just don't appeal to me much. It sucks that some of my favorite games from yesteryear won't play on Windows 10...BF2, COD2...those install disks are just taking up space in my games cupboard... 🙁
Funny you mention that. My collection of ROMs are collecting dust and won’t install anymore, but I did manage to find a few on Steam, some as low as .$99. Have spent the last few nights on memory lane with some old classics.

For newer games, I’ve been gravitating to stuff in the spirit of Myst.
 
Seconded. I bought a cheap (like $60) refurbished Chromebook off of Newegg. Well, it worked OK, but then I learned the awful truth - Chromebooks have an "expiration date", after which, they will NO LONGER RECEIVE UPDATES, which are essential to that platform. Well done, Google, well done. Lots of e-waste and platform lock-in, requiring re-purchase every few years. NO THANKS.

Wait, so you can't just install your own OS on those, like Linux or something? Sounds like a piece of crap if they're locking you into some stupid cloud based BS.
 
That's the essence... of a Chromebook.

Wow that's horrible then. I don't get why these even took off. Especially in an age where we need to be more conscious of the environment. I always figured they just ran some kind of custom Linux distro and you could just wipe it if you wanted to. Glad I never bought one.
 
Wow that's horrible then. I don't get why these even took off. Especially in an age where we need to be more conscious of the environment. I always figured they just ran some kind of custom Linux distro and you could just wipe it if you wanted to. Glad I never bought one.
Yes, yes, they ARE that horrible. I felt a bit defrauded by Newegg, when I finally found out that the refurb Chromebook that I had purchased from them, was not only refurb, but also, EOL, and shouldn't have even been sold, because it was a security risk due to no more updates being available for it. But, they sold it, to a sucker like me, who didn't realize that Chromebooks had expiration dates on them, and they just arbitrarily EOL them after a couple of years, even if they're still fully-usable and workable, other than the fact that, they are marked EOL. Gotta have your planned obsolescence somehow, I guess.
 
I hope you checked the expiry dates on those Chromebooks.

So I use a tool called Turtle Saver, which is a simple psychologically-driven financial savings system I created a number of years ago. It starts with this:

1. You pick something you want to buy
2. You figure out how much it's going to cost
3. You figure out when you want to purchase it

Then:

1. You divide up the savings payments into weekly or monthly or whatever payments
2. You setup an online FDIC-insured bank account (ex. Smartypig, Capital One, Simple, etc.)
3. You setup auto-withdrawls to go into that bank on a scheduled basis, which prevents you from easily spending it (digital piggy bank concept)

The results are:

1. You automate your savings plan
2. You can make the majority of things affordable this way (computer parts, kitchen gadgets, car equipment, home theater gear, etc.)
3. Because you don't have easy access to it (i.e. online savings bank - no debit card or quick-transfer or anything), it's much harder to spend it

So the idea is that it's kind of like a wind-up toy...you wind it up & then let it roll! I started this concept approximately 20 years ago. I was working at a minimum-wage job at the time & had just graduated high school & wanted to save up for a nice computer. I sunk allllll of my savings into it, and was broke after that lol. I thought about it over time & realized that I really only needed to do a full upgrade every 2 years, and that a full upgrade for a loaded computer (monitor, gaming parts, etc.) would cost about $2,000. So:

1. $2,000 target goal
2. 2-year timeframe (24 months), or 104 weeks total
3. $2,000 divided by 104 weeks = roughly $20 a week

I've been using the Turtle Saver method for close to 20 years now. My last big purchase was my HTC Vive VR headset & gaming rig for it. Sometimes I recoup additional costs by selling off the old PC, or sometimes just donate it to a family member (ex. a nephew who is getting into PC gaming).

As far as the Chromebook AUE date goes, you can check your device's EOL directly from Google:


So to get nerdy about it:

1. Assume the purchase date of the Chromebook is within 6 month so manufacture, as online sources say ~6.5 years to end-of-life the hardware, so we should get about 6 years of usage from the date of purchase.

2. Assume a cost of $199 per device, times say 12 users

3. Factor in say a dozen Chromebooks at $200 a pop, or $2400 for the total nugget

4. Divide that by 6 years, or 312 weeks, then your automatic weekly pull into your online piggy bank would be about $8 a week.

Thus the end result is that I have an $8 weekly fee to maintain my family & extended family's computer systems. Family tech subscription service! lol. That's pretty manageable, especially as I have a lot of older, non-technical people in my family who (1) need a computer that works, and (2) need a lot of online security & safety (2FA, no downloading of viruses, cleaning out their Chrome homepages & plugins & Facebook plugins on a regular basis, etc.), and (3) aren't necessarily in the best financial positions (ex. fixed retirement incomes) to keep up-to-date on everything. And since I'm going to be stuck with the job anyway whenever I visit them or they visit me, might as well make it easy on myself!

So that's a nice big wall of text for a simple explanation of "setup your savings plan & stick it somewhere that isn't easily accessible" haha
 
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Ok, looks like I have a few takers for PCs. Will be contacting all of you in the next week or so about offers. Basically, free PC (I have an assortment), but you pay shipping (actual, though I might ask for a Paypal deposit, of which I will refund the excess once shipped.) Not all of them are quite as nice as this one, but I do have a few (not many) quad-core Intel rigs with semi-decent GPUs in them. (Well, I have a Haswell unlocked quad, that needs a GPU.) Got some FX-series rigs too, and some AM4 Athlon 200GE and 2400G rigs too. (Along with a relatively large assortment of older dual-cores, mostly just browser boxes with SSDs. Good for a Mom or Grandma or whatever, that just wants to browse the web, and not play COD:Infinite Gun-Gasm.)
LMK what you're unloading, my kid likes finding random PCs at thrift stores and mucking about with them for a while.
 
I wonder if you can flip the switch and covert it to run full Linux instead?
Sometimes, it really depends on the model. One of the ones my kid picked up you had to disassemble and jumper a couple pins or something. He's had a few of them so I forget what he did with each one.
 
So you can't wipe ChromeOS off the Chromebook and install Linux in its place at all?
You can with some of them, including the one I purchased. You have to undo the "firmware lock screw", and flash the bootloaded with a HW-compatible one that will boot Linux.
 
I bought a refurbished Acer chromebook 3 or 4 years ago. I got it so I could watch movies from my plex server at work. It worked, but the screen was the worst! After 6 months or so I gave it away, and got a Dell XPS 13. That soured me on Chromebooks, but they can't all be that bad, right?
 
I bought a refurbished Acer chromebook 3 or 4 years ago. I got it so I could watch movies from my plex server at work. It worked, but the screen was the worst! After 6 months or so I gave it away, and got a Dell XPS 13. That soured me on Chromebooks, but they can't all be that bad, right?
Definitely not, my kid had an HP Chromebook with a pretty nice screen.
 
You can with some of them, including the one I purchased. You have to undo the "firmware lock screw", and flash the bootloaded with a HW-compatible one that will boot Linux.
Why bother? Better off getting a refurb laptop with decent specs that isn't too old, then installing Linux on that instead.

That is basically what I did when I brought my ThinkPad T40 a few years ago.
 
I love Chromebook. I'm on my 3rd one since 2011. And I've been using Asus Chromebox hooked up to my TV as web browser since 2014. For me Chromebook is perfect web surfing laptop. No need to worry about viruses and it's so simple to use. It's true that Google stops update after 5-6 years but by then the Chromebook is ready to be replaced. My Asus Chromebox stopped getting updates but it doesn't matter since I only use it to stream videos.
 
Ok, looks like I have a few takers for PCs. Will be contacting all of you in the next week or so about offers. Basically, free PC (I have an assortment), but you pay shipping (actual, though I might ask for a Paypal deposit, of which I will refund the excess once shipped.) Not all of them are quite as nice as this one, but I do have a few (not many) quad-core Intel rigs with semi-decent GPUs in them. (Well, I have a Haswell unlocked quad, that needs a GPU.) Got some FX-series rigs too, and some AM4 Athlon 200GE and 2400G rigs too. (Along with a relatively large assortment of older dual-cores, mostly just browser boxes with SSDs. Good for a Mom or Grandma or whatever, that just wants to browse the web, and not play COD:Infinite Gun-Gasm.)

waidadamnminit...you want people to PAY YOU to take your obsolete junk off your hands?
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The nerve of this guy! 😛

If my grandkids' living situations were more...stable, I'd take you up on the offer...but sadly...maybe later.
 
Ok, looks like I have a few takers for PCs. Will be contacting all of you in the next week or so about offers. Basically, free PC (I have an assortment), but you pay shipping (actual, though I might ask for a Paypal deposit, of which I will refund the excess once shipped.) Not all of them are quite as nice as this one, but I do have a few (not many) quad-core Intel rigs with semi-decent GPUs in them. (Well, I have a Haswell unlocked quad, that needs a GPU.) Got some FX-series rigs too, and some AM4 Athlon 200GE and 2400G rigs too. (Along with a relatively large assortment of older dual-cores, mostly just browser boxes with SSDs. Good for a Mom or Grandma or whatever, that just wants to browse the web, and not play COD:Infinite Gun-Gasm.)
cool!
 
waidadamnminit...you want people to PAY YOU to take your obsolete junk off your hands?
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The nerve of this guy! 😛

If my grandkids' living situations were more...stable, I'd take you up on the offer...but sadly...maybe later.
Well, you can't expect me to pay shipping TOO. Standard Free Stuff thread policy is, requester pays shipping. You can always pick it up for free. 😛
 
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