Why is it Apple v. AMD/Intel? Shouldn't it be IBM/Motorola v. AMD/Intel?

[MadRat]

Bugs the hell out of me. IBM and Motorola have made Apple's last two processors. Well, lets hear some good answers!

 

[Special1Sauce]

Because I guess apple markets them.

 

[Ionizer86]

Apple Vs. AMD/Intel indicates the platform instead of just the brand of the chip. IBM/Motorola could make some other CPU's for embedded solutions, etc. They want to look at just the ones in Apple PCs.

 

[DaveSimmons]

Because IBM/Motorola [ CPUs ] have 0% of the home/office desktop market outside of what Apple has sold for them. (Yes I know there have been non-Apple IBM PPC workstations.).

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

It's PC versus Mac, the chips don't really matter.

 

[buleyb]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
It's PC versus Mac, the chips don't really matter.

I agree with the topic, but the use of "PC" to denote Intel/AMD bugs me more. Is there no better term?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

Originally posted by: buleyb

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
It's PC versus Mac, the chips don't really matter.

I agree with the topic, but the use of "PC" to denote Intel/AMD bugs me more. Is there no better term?

Wintel? x86? Who cares? Everyone knows what "PC" means in the context of PC vs. Mac. Misnomers are everywhere in the computer world. The next time I see someone call Macs MACS, I think I'm going to explode.

 

[DarkKnight]

doesnt matter, AMD beats them all!!!

 

[mikable]

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey

Originally posted by: buleyb

Originally posted by: BingBongWongFooey
It's PC versus Mac, the chips don't really matter.

I agree with the topic, but the use of "PC" to denote Intel/AMD bugs me more. Is there no better term?

Wintel? x86? Who cares? Everyone knows what "PC" means in the context of PC vs. Mac. Misnomers are everywhere in the computer world. The next time I see someone call Macs MACS, I think I'm going to explode.

So true, look at a cable "modem" Man I can't stand that, it's so wrong! For crying out loud it's a friggin terminal adaptor.

 

[LethalWolfe]

It's Mac vs AMD/Intel instead of IBM/Moto vs AMD/Intel for the same reason that it is Mac vs PC instead of Apple vs Dell or Gateway or HP/Compaq etc.,.


Lethal

 

[Nebor]

It's not Apple v. AMD/Intel. It's AMD vs. Intel for just about every single person on this forum. Because Mac's are not a viable solution to today's computer needs.

 

[labrat25]

it sure as hell isn't gonna be IBM v AMD as they have a agreement to start producing chips together

 

[BenSkywalker]

In the consumer space IBM sells a lot more Intel based systems then they build PPC chips for Apple. Saying IBM vs Intel in terms of looking at the processor market is all screwed up because IBM is best known to the world for selling Intel based systems, it took the Mac community many years to drop the 'IBM-clone' tag and start using PC to refer to x86 based systems, turning that around on its head particularly with what IBM sells to this day just wouldn't sound right.

Motorola makes very low end chips, they are more comparable to Cyrix then they are to any of the other three in terms of performance although given their main application, embedded devices, they are providing what the customer wants(versus Cyrix which could never manage to make a competitive processor for their market). And the final issue, IBM's best chips kill anything Apple is will to provide their customers with. They want their profit margins to remain extreme, and they will not step up to the price of the full Power4 series line(not the cut down varriant). IBM's top tier chips are not available in any consumer platform nor do they have a part that was designed from the ground up to fill that market, they just Intel and AMD chips(and will soon be helping AMD fab their chips also). IBM also used to make a Cyrix based solution several years ago to add a bit more.

Due to these factors, you have one company who is best known for selling their 'competitors' parts who also happens to make several types of their own chips of which one of the low end varriants is used for a 'competitor' of theirs who also happens to be a 'competitor' to their 'competitor'.......


Now isn't it just a lot easier to say PC v Mac

 

[biostud]

...because IBM are gonna make AMD chips, and they produce servers based both on Opterons, Itaniums and Xeons.

 

[WackyDan]

Originally posted by: Special1Sauce
Because I guess apple markets them.

Actually... Now the one Apple uses (970?) has been in use and continues to be in use on IBM's Pseries servers.

 

[Caly]

Originally posted by: Nebor
It's not Apple v. AMD/Intel. It's AMD vs. Intel for just about every single person on this forum. Because Mac's are not a viable solution to today's computer needs.

Obviously you don't know many creative types.
Right now I'm on a G5 doing 3d stuff. In the past when I worked in web-design many of the companies were all Macs. BBedit, Photoshop, etc.

 

[Davegod]

Not quite what was posted by: Nebor
It's not Apple v. AMD/Intel. It's AMD vs. Intel for just about every single person on this forum. Because Mac's are not a viable solution to today's computer nerds.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Caly

Originally posted by: Nebor
It's not Apple v. AMD/Intel. It's AMD vs. Intel for just about every single person on this forum. Because Mac's are not a viable solution to today's computer needs.

Obviously you don't know many creative types.
Right now I'm on a G5 doing 3d stuff. In the past when I worked in web-design many of the companies were all Macs. BBedit, Photoshop, etc.

Obviously you weren't creative enough to build your own computer.