Rant Why is female nudity considered "bad" (for career) but sex scenes in movies are "norm"?

[Denly]

Am old enough to respect someone's past, rather it was "had a life/been around the block" or did what was necessary at the time - sex sense. Zero issue with one's history rather it was nude beach, playboy, sugar baby, toy boy, bi or anything else.

 

[YuliApp]

Am old enough to respect someone's past, rather it was "had a life/been around the block" or did what was necessary at the time - sex sense. Zero issue with one's history rather it was nude beach, playboy, sugar baby, toy boy, bi or anything else.

Good for you! You are rare. Especially if you are in the US.
But i meant not necessarily the past. Rather active presence, lifestyle.

 

[biostud]

Good for you! You are rare. Especially if you are in the US.
But i meant not necessarily the past. Rather active presence, lifestyle.

I think there are two separate aspects of the dilemma, one of moral and one of emotional, as I have already talked about.

Morally I have no problem whatsoever with what kind of sex life a man or woman choose, if they choose it of their own free will. It really is not my business. On the other hand, you obviously must have a partner where your sexual preferences and boundaries are respected, and where you feel comfortable. There are lots of things I don't find morally wrong that I could never live with in a relationship, but just because I can't live with it why should I judge other people, if they seem to enjoy it?

 

[YuliApp]

I think there are two separate aspects of the dilemma, one of moral and one of emotional, as I have already talked about.

Morally I have no problem whatsoever with what kind of sex life a man or woman choose, if they choose it of their own free will. It really is not my business. On the other hand, you obviously must have a partner where your sexual preferences and boundaries are respected, and where you feel comfortable. There are lots of things I don't find morally wrong that I could never live with in a relationship, but just because I can't live with it why should I judge other people, if they seem to enjoy it?

yes exactly as you said. I have nothing against erotic scenes in the movies, or either against porn.
just the complete disproportion of the two examples:

1) Woman/man openly enjoys sex (without promiscuity), or either just being naked, nudist, or if you will even half nude "instagram" model.
Generally not accepted, ridiculed, even "young" part of the internet is opposing it. Nudity is viewed as morally wrong, being openly non-asexual even worse. Social networks generally block it.
For me this is completely ok. Why to hide something so natural to us? Think of how many years have passed since nudity was used in the art and we are still now not free to share it or express it.

2) Actress in active relationship records a movie where she/he is nude, has simulated sex with someone else, you get the idea.
Generally accepted, talked a lot about it in news, talkshow, etc etc. Young part of the internet usually shares screenshots with enlarged details and being generally horny about it.
She/he usually just says how terrible it was to get some morality back, you know, hard job, but someone has to do it. We both were laughing about our breath smell from buffet few minutes ago, bla bla bla.
For me this is same as cheating (or better word would be adultery or promiscuity as it is often done with consent) or recording a regular porn movie. No difference. Not saying bad as long as they are ok with it, just i would not accept it on either side of the relationship and never understand the reasons why it is accepted more in the first place.

I got the idea to talk about it when reading material about Johny and Amber case. About their first tongue - kiss on the movie set while they both were in active relationship.

 

[dlerious]

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Number one is awesome!

"If he sends you an unsolicited d*ck pic, mint it as an NFT listing him as the artist and send him the purchase link, the only way for him to erase it from the blockchain is to buy it."


*(actually makes me a bit embarrassed to be male!)

I believe that might be classified as extortion. I'm not up on NFTs, but it was my understanding that you can't just erase something from the blockchain.

 

[biostud]

yes exactly as you said. I have nothing against erotic scenes in the movies, or either against porn.
just the complete disproportion of the two examples:

1) Woman/man openly enjoys sex (without promiscuity), or either just being naked, nudist, or if you will even half nude "instagram" model.
Generally not accepted, ridiculed, even "young" part of the internet is opposing it. Nudity is viewed as morally wrong, being openly non-asexual even worse. Social networks generally block it.
For me this is completely ok. Why to hide something so natural to us? Think of how many years have passed since nudity was used in the art and we are still now not free to share it or express it.

2) Actress in active relationship records a movie where she/he is nude, has simulated sex with someone else, you get the idea.
Generally accepted, talked a lot about it in news, talkshow, etc etc. Young part of the internet usually shares screenshots with enlarged details and being generally horny about it.
She/he usually just says how terrible it was to get some morality back, you know, hard job, but someone has to do it. We both were laughing about our breath smell from buffet few minutes ago, bla bla bla.
For me this is same as cheating (or better word would be adultery or promiscuity as it is often done with consent) or recording a regular porn movie. No difference. Not saying bad as long as they are ok with it, just i would not accept it on either side of the relationship and never understand the reasons why it is accepted more in the first place.

I got the idea to talk about it when reading material about Johny and Amber case. About their first tongue - kiss on the movie set while they both were in active relationship.

1) I think the problem with social media and internet is it is so hard to control what information hit the which audience. I don't particular want nudity, and whatnot to pop up all the time, and I don't want my kids to be exposed the internet version of nudity, to create a false image of what is natural body. So, on one hand I agree that the fear of nudity can be overzealous, but on the other hand I could also very quickly see it spinning out of control extremely fast. Same debate as free speech.

2) That must be an American fascination sex in movies, that at least here in Denmark would never be talked about in such a way. What I hear you say, is that you could never be in a relationship with an actor/actress as they are most likely to involved in a sex scene at some point in their career. And that is fine that you have gained that insight for yourself, but since you don't find it morally wrong, is there anything more to it?

What other couples do, including celebreties, I really don't give a flying f*ck about. I know they are mad at each other and have heard something about a turd, but that is about it.

 

[YuliApp]

1) I think the problem with social media and internet is it is so hard to control what information hit the which audience. I don't particular want nudity, and whatnot to pop up all the time, and I don't want my kids to be exposed the internet version of nudity, to create a false image of what is natural body. So, on one hand I agree that the fear of nudity can be overzealous, but on the other hand I could also very quickly see it spinning out of control extremely fast. Same debate as free speech.

Well if they would focus their skills and "AI" on enabling the content, not blocking it, proper age groups etc, it would work. It's the owners who are reason for that (and people that they let it happen to them).

2) That must be an American fascination sex in movies, that at least here in Denmark would never be talked about in such a way. What I hear you say, is that you could never be in a relationship with an actor/actress as they are most likely to involved in a sex scene at some point in their career. And that is fine that you have gained that insight for yourself, but since you don't find it morally wrong, is there anything more to it?

No, there is not much into it. I have no problems to show my friends our home video, or have sex in front of the others. I just do not want that my partner has intimate contact with other person and same i do not want that other people can say to my husband, hey i seen your wife f-cked other dude.

"no!!!, it was artistic, and he was flacid, he was not inside, just time to time accidentaly rubbed over the entering, and we both hated it, and i was not sweating, it was a water sprayed by dude watching us, and the moaning was fake"... 🤷‍♀️

Though we have special agreement when we are together and there is just a girl involved.

What other couples do, including celebreties, I really don't give a flying f*ck about. I know they are mad at each other and have heard something about a turd, but that is about it.

It's not particularly interesting, just they said they met on the set, where he kissed her with a tongue what was not planed (and she liked it) and they both fell in love while being in marriage with someone else, blablabla. But just got me thinking. And well there have been man cases where typical flacid "rubbing" turned into a real sex or where director "for artistic" reasons required real sex. For me it is just same as porn. Not wrong, mind you, just not "better" or morally higher than being openly naked or openly erotic, as many believe.

 

[nakedfrog]

I believe that might be classified as extortion. I'm not up on NFTs, but it was my understanding that you can't just erase something from the blockchain.

My understanding is that the part on the blockchain is essentially a URL pointing to where the actual image is, so you couldn't get rid of the URL, but you could get rid of the image it points to.

 

[YuliApp]

My understanding is that the part on the blockchain is essentially a URL pointing to where the actual image is, so you couldn't get rid of the URL, but you could get rid of the image it points to.

it is digital, you can get rid of anything digital. Blockchain only makes it "difficult" or obscured from normal users, if you want. Which is not really all that difference than search engines which do not follow robots.txt and websites hosted in weird countries.

 

[nakedfrog]

it is digital, you can get rid of anything digital. Blockchain only makes it "difficult" or obscured from normal users, if you want. Which is not really all that difference than search engines which do not follow robots.txt and websites hosted in weird countries.

I don't think this is true with regard to blockchain data, isn't that meant to be literally the entire point of the blockchain?

 

[YuliApp]

I don't think this is true with regard to blockchain data, isn't that meant to be literally the entire point of the blockchain?

I am too lazy to study this particular case but i would guesstimate most implementations use just reference, maybe hash to pack into the block, not the image it self.

On Desirehive block is built to the meta data of the image, which by it self is hash of the image with just different compression than the original, so you can delete single image but it would "heal" it self. Each image can also simply prove for it self until removed. It is used not really for authentication but just to require most of the content to be downloaded to maintain the blockchain so just same "security through obscurity".

 

[biostud]

The crypto is everywhere.

 

[YuliApp]

not for much longer lol

 

[Captante]

So.... Chinese (?) boner-pill spam now?

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[JEDI]

Doesn't matter it is not fun. I still consider it cheating. Someone rubs, touches, kisses genitals of your partner. It is real porn wrapped in "mainstream" condom.
And well, real porn is not fun either unless it is authentic.

Playing strip twister or well doing anything when not in relationship i would not care about.

50 Shades where she's naked and his hand is on her crotch, all for the viewer to see

 

[MrSquished]

Combination of American prudishness and misogyny.

 

[shortylickens]

the idea its bad for a woman's career seems to be more myth than reality.
It didn't hurt Marylin Monroe, but she was already famous and popular. On the other hand, I cant think of more than two women who had successful careers after posing in Playboy: Pamela Anderson and Jenny McCarthy.
And lets be honest, nobody takes them seriously, but they do make money.

 

[YuliApp]

It depends, both those girls you mentioned already had a great career and used her sex appeal a lot, so the target audience was set and they were exposed a lot to showbiz world which kinds of accepts it (and expects it - what i think is the part of the problem).

Another example, imagine a half popular (from serious) shows, girl would make such a video:

Can you imagine the sh1tstorm? Now imagine a no-name girl, known from completely different field. Imagine your friend's GF would record it and post on her Facebook. Yet having realistic sex on screen is completely "ok".

 

[sdifox]

So.... Chinese (?) boner-pill spam now?

What could possibly go wrong?

You notice how many people are born in China every year?

 

[Captante]

You notice how many people are born in China every year?

Your saying its too late?

 

[sdifox]

Your saying its too late?

Market saturated, thus they expand to atot

 

[skyking]

OP,, you answered your own question a few posts in. Our uniquely poisonous attitude in this country regarding nudity and sex and body shaming and objectification of women has a whole bunch of US males fucked up in the head. IF you can't see it, it is because you are inside it.

 

[YuliApp]

OP,, you answered your own question a few posts in. Our uniquely poisonous attitude in this country regarding nudity and sex and body shaming and objectification of women has a whole bunch of US males fucked up in the head. IF you can't see it, it is because you are inside it.

Luckily not inside it, very happy i live outside of US, trust me.

But yea, should be rather "why do we let that happen to us" instead of "why"

 

[SaltyNuts]

Also OP when he was younger:

I went to this party, and there were these hot drunk girls throwing themselves at me, trying to drag me into bedrooms to have sex with them... ewwwwww so nasty!!!

 

[Torn Mind]

Your saying its too late?

In actuality, the crisis is that people are not breeding enough youth to sustain the money train for that government.

And there are more eligible males than female so