Why is fat so vilified?

[dullard]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold

Originally posted by: dullard
There were low-fat diets around before this bald woman hit the scenes. But they never caught on. Not until she came around. We haven't recovered yet.

she was annoying, but she didn't start it.
she was a symptom not a cause of the anti fat movement.

Like I said in bold above, she didn't start it, but she was the catalyst needed to get the ball rolling. Before her, this low-fat movement never went anywhere.

 

[Geekbabe]

fat looks terrible accumulated around a person's waist,what makes you think putting it in your mouth makes it any better?

 

[Riprorin]

Here's an interesting study:

Low Fat, High Sugar Diets Prompt Production of Saturated Fats

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: Riprorin
Here's an interesting study:

Low Fat, High Sugar Diets Prompt Production of Saturated Fats

Excess calories from any source will get stored as fat.

ie. Eat too much and exercise too little and you gain fat.

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
fat looks terrible accumulated around a person's waist,what makes you think putting it in your mouth makes it any better?

I eat red meat, butter, full fat cheese and yogurt, peanut butter and nuts, frequently if not everyday.

My % BF is about 12% (90 - 95 percentile for my age), I'm 5'8" 150 lbs, and my lipid profile is good (HDL=78, triglycerides=50, LDL and Lipoprotein A within guidelines).

There's no indication that my fat consumption is hurting me.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: dullard
It all really got its start in the early 80s. A bald woman (I wish I remembered her name) was on every talk show, every news show, and almost every infomercial with one catchy phrase: "fat makes you fat". She had no education, so scientific proof, nothing. But it caught on. She argued that you could eat 100 pounds of pasta a day as long as you didn't eat any fat. You could eat tons of breads, grains, fruit, vegetables, etc - 2, 3, 5, 10, 100 times more food than you normally eat and lose weight. Of course it was all just a bogus way to make a buck selling her diet book. But the phrase caught on, "Fat makes you fat". The low fat craze really caught on with the consumers. Low-fat products flooded the market and people ate way more than they used to, because "it is low fat". Fat consumption plummetted. What happened? The less fat people ate, the heavier they got. It is amazing to look at graphs of historical fat consumption and average weight - they go perfectly hand in hand (as one goes up the other goes down). All due to this one bald woman trying to make a buck.

The fact is your body's mass MUST obey the conservation of mass. If you put 5 kg in, and 4 kg comes out (bathroom duties, lost hair, bleeding, exhaled carbon, sweat, etc.) then you gained 1 kg. That is true if you ate 5 kg of fat, 5 kg of carbohydrates, or 5 kg of anything else. Fat DOESN'T make you fat. Eating 2, 3, 5, 10, 100 times more food than you used to makes you fat.

In fact fat makes you feel full so you eat far less food. A little bit of fat 30 minutes before a meal will dramatically cut your consumption during that meal. Avoid all fat and you never get that factor of "fullness". Sure it is just one of a half dozen "fullness" factors, but it is an important one.

There were low-fat diets around before this bald woman hit the scenes. But they never caught on. Not until she came around. We haven't recovered yet.

Susan Powter?

 

[EyeMWing]

I eat whatever the HELL I want. Pizza, steak, sandwiches, McDonalds, small children. And I'm losing weight. I knock off entire bags of chips and entire pizzas in a single sitting. Coca Cola fears me with every fiber of their being. Roy Rogers pwnz me with those bacon cheeseburgers. Best. Fast food. EVAR.

Dietary guidelines are trash. The key to my diet? Leave the food in the kitchen, and go get a single handful/slice/part at a time. All the walking to and from the kitchen is the key 😛

 

[Tom]

cause they stink !!!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
fat looks terrible accumulated around a person's waist,what makes you think putting it in your mouth makes it any better?

I eat red meat, butter, full fat cheese and yogurt, peanut butter and nuts, frequently if not everyday.

My % BF is about 12% (90 - 95 percentile for my age), I'm 5'8" 150 lbs, and my lipid profile is good (HDL=78, triglycerides=50, LDL and Lipoprotein A within guidelines).

There's no indication that my fat consumption isn't hurting me.

That's you, not everybody reacts the same to high fat diets.

 

[Eug]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
fat looks terrible accumulated around a person's waist,what makes you think putting it in your mouth makes it any better?

I eat red meat, butter, full fat cheese and yogurt, peanut butter and nuts, frequently if not everyday.

My % BF is about 12% (90 - 95 percentile for my age), I'm 5'8" 150 lbs, and my lipid profile is good (HDL=78, triglycerides=50, LDL and Lipoprotein A within guidelines).

There's no indication that my fat consumption isn't hurting me.

That's you, not everybody reacts the same to high fat diets.

Actually, so far what he's said doesn't necessarily mean a bad or high-fat diet.

Red meat, butter, full fat cheese, yogurst, peanut butter, and nuts, can all be part of a healthy diet, even if they're somewhat overrepresented in his diet (compared to a textbook "good" diet). ie. The cliche of anything-in-moderation can still hold true here.

I eat whatever the HELL I want. Pizza, steak, sandwiches, McDonalds, small children. And I'm losing weight. I knock off entire bags of chips and entire pizzas in a single sitting. Coca Cola fears me with every fiber of their being. Roy Rogers pwnz me with those bacon cheeseburgers. Best. Fast food. EVAR.

Now that's a bad diet. However, I have not yet seen any studies about the health effects of cannibalism. 😉

 

[Ranger X]

Originally posted by: isekii
I eat whatever the hell I want.
I could care less. If I die, i'll die eating good food 😀

Right on. You die with a big juicy steak in your mouth. 😉

 

[Riprorin]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
fat looks terrible accumulated around a person's waist,what makes you think putting it in your mouth makes it any better?

I eat red meat, butter, full fat cheese and yogurt, peanut butter and nuts, frequently if not everyday.

My % BF is about 12% (90 - 95 percentile for my age), I'm 5'8" 150 lbs, and my lipid profile is good (HDL=78, triglycerides=50, LDL and Lipoprotein A within guidelines).

There's no indication that my fat consumption isn't hurting me.

That's you, not everybody reacts the same to high fat diets.

No doubt, genetics plays a role, but I don't my experience is uncommon wehn you eliminate refined carbs.

I don't count or weigh anything but I eat about 1 cup of yogurt a day, 5 or 6 handfuls of pecans or almonds, 3 - 4 tablespoons of peanut butter, 3- 4 oz of cheese, butter - not margarine, and beef/lamp a couple of times a week.

I don't if that's a high fat diet or not, but I don't see any reason to change regardless of the fat obsessed say.