Why is everybody having trouble with microsoft networking?

[Crab cake]

<< MS Networking is very finicky about how it resolves the names of other computer. It's always going to look at DNS first and if you don't have a DNS server setup odd things might happen. >>


This is false. DNS is the last place a MS network looks to resolve names. The first place the network looks to is the cache. If the cache is empty, WINS is the first server it calls on.



<< If you don't shut down a service the files are in use and don't get updated. >>


This was true with service packs prior to 3. MS even said so in the documentations that came with SP1 and 2. Starting with SP3 and later, it's no longer necessary.

 

[trikster2]

Garion:

I've never seen that shutdown every service recommendation when upgrading service packs.

What is your source.

I assumed reboots were used to cover this issue.

 

[EmperorRob]

<< win2k will win the masterbrowser election which could take upto 30 minutes.

I suspect you'll need to leave the win2k box off for 30 minutes before the 98 machine realizes it is gone and ghost should work. >>

Wow, I never realized it took so long. I need to get me a TCP/IP book for reference. I'm just waiting til Hastings puts one on the discounted table.

 

[spidey07]

<rant on>

tcp/ip and microsoft IP have very little to do with each other.

TCP/IP is the protocol family of choice for everything NOT microsoft. Microsoft TCP/IP is an entire protocol family by itself having little to do with the rest of the world, meaning it does not adhere to MOST known RFC standards of any kind.

<rant off>

Yes, shutting down services prior to installing service packs helps a lot. Thanks for the reminder garion

cheers!

 

[EmperorRob]

Well then, if I was to connect a Linux machine to a Win2k machine would I be using TCP/IP, not Microsoft IP?

 

[Abzstrak]

I think there should be two forums, newbies and advanced.....

what do U guyz think?

 

[EmperorRob]

spidey07 what would be a good reference book for Microsoft IP?

 

[Elledan]

<< Well then, if I was to connect a Linux machine to a Win2k machine would I be using TCP/IP, not Microsoft IP? >>


Just TCP/IP.

You'd have to install Samba on the Linux PC to share files, though, since Linux doesn't support SMB natively.

 

[MulLa]

Crab Cake: For native w2k networks, WINS is not necessary and DNS is the &quot;second&quot; port of call after the cache.

 

[igiveup]

Damn, gotta hand it to you Spidey07, you sure can start a thread.

Hey, whats up after Senior Member anyways? I have to be gettin close to something.

 

[Garion]

<< Garion:

I've never seen that shutdown every service recommendation when upgrading service packs.

What is your source.

I assumed reboots were used to cover this issue. >>



Nope, it doesn't always work. If you read the README for the service pack it'll tell you to shut down all the services. I haven't done any for Win2K, so it might be different. I found this out since I always had a problem with DNS after the service pack install - Kept giving error messages on all our client's machines. I finally did some digging and figured out that since the files were open they didn't get updated.

- G