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Why is chinese food so americanized?

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Ok NOW for the REAL answer:

During the communist revolution there was an extreme shortage of cooking oil. Having cooking oil was a sign of great wealth. Now there is plenty of oil, but there are also plenty of people who remember the shortage. So "authentic" chinese, as you want to call it, gets excessive amounts of oil compared to the "americanized" version because for them it is a sign of good fortune and also it reminds them of when times were much much harder.

There are many variations of Chinese food, mostly regional... but in China and recent immigrants still cook with heavy oil. "Americanized" to you is most likely modified Szechaun or Mandarin, modified means sans heavy oil. Don't dog on peoples cultures, be gracious for the hospitality.
 
Originally posted by: 13rian
Originally posted by: buzzsaw13
In my area most of the japanese, korean, viet, & malaysian resteraunts are owned and run by chinese people. I've eaten "authentic" chinese food and its awesome 😀 Chinese food here is also fine.

so true


btw: in china and hong kong, you don't get a fortune cookie :Q

Fortune cookies were invented by a Japanese man in San Francisco.
 
Originally posted by: jEct2
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: jEct2

I had dinner at my chinese friend's house. I couldn't swallow their food at all.... it was all bland, oily and slimey...

That is why.

And there is a different between cultural food from resturant and home cook food. There is Chinese food that is not Americanize. You really need to go to a real chinese restaurant

You're missing my point. There are NO americanized Korean or Japanese food regardless of restaurants. Why is Chinese such case?

Teriaki
 
Originally posted by: jEct2
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: jEct2

I had dinner at my chinese friend's house. I couldn't swallow their food at all.... it was all bland, oily and slimey...

That is why.

And there is a different between cultural food from resturant and home cook food. There is Chinese food that is not Americanize. You really need to go to a real chinese restaurant

You're missing my point. There are NO americanized Korean or Japanese food regardless of restaurants. Why is Chinese such case?

Negative. Most sushi establishments in the US are hardly worthy of their name. Granted, a lot has to do with getting the fresh ingredients that may not be readily available (for cheap at least). But for the most part, sushi in the US is absolutely nothing like sushi in Japan. FYI, the typical 'California roll' sushi rolled into a seaweed packaging is unheard of in Japan and gets strange looks by Japanese tourists.
 
California roll? That's classic americanization
also the crappy teryaki and the just the rampant use of the teryaki sauce is also another example
 
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: skace
The Chineese learned how to adapt their food to their target audience and make ass tons of money?

😕

They smother everything in sauce so americans are more willing to eat it.
 
If you really want authentic ethnic cuisine then go to a restaurant where all the customers are ethnic. i.e. you wont hear any English
 
I think the only way to eat real chinese food is to go to China. And if you want to eat real mexican food, go to Mexico. etc, etc. 😉 Just my two cents.
 
Originally posted by: jj2005
I think the only way to eat real chinese food is to go to China. And if you want to eat real mexican food, go to Mexico. etc, etc. 😉 Just my two cents.

No need to. Just come to Toronto. We do have the largest group of Chinese outside of China/HK.
 
whereas japanese, korean, viet, & malaysian food you eat are pretty much authentic...

BS... most of the Japanese foods here in NA are Americanized as well... you just don't know it, because you've never had real japanese food.

As for Korean... i grew up eating lots of Korean because i had lots of Korean friends (and currently seeing a Korean), and all the Korean restaurants i've been to (all of 3), were very 'Americanized'. You also have to question why aren't there more Korean restaurants (most Westerners just don't like it... personally, i LOVE korean food).

EDIT: i do remember going to one very authentic Korean restaurant a few years ago... it was quite good, but expensive. About $140 for 2 people.

As for Vietnamese... i'll have to say, most Vietnamese restaurants are quite authentic... but that's probably because it's cuisine has had a hundred years of French influence as well.

Malaysian, never had it before, so i can't tell you.

Thai, i can tell you the Thai places i've been too, have been quite Americanized... infact, probably more so than most Chinese places (aside from places that are so obviously Americanized... such as the ones you see in your Malls).
 
Originally posted by: jonjonsanfru
Ok NOW for the REAL answer:

During the communist revolution there was an extreme shortage of cooking oil. Having cooking oil was a sign of great wealth. Now there is plenty of oil, but there are also plenty of people who remember the shortage. So "authentic" chinese, as you want to call it, gets excessive amounts of oil compared to the "americanized" version because for them it is a sign of good fortune and also it reminds them of when times were much much harder.

There are many variations of Chinese food, mostly regional... but in China and recent immigrants still cook with heavy oil. "Americanized" to you is most likely modified Szechaun or Mandarin, modified means sans heavy oil. Don't dog on peoples cultures, be gracious for the hospitality.

I find that a little hard to believe... especially since most of the Chinese in NA have never lived in China or experienced the cooking oil shortage of the communist revolution.

More than likely it's because of the way the Chinese use starch to make the sauce... most people think it's a little too oily and thick.
 
There are a lot of decent Chinese restaurants around here. When you go inside no one is speaking English - I guess that's a good sign of authenticity.
 
Originally posted by: Landroval
There are a lot of decent Chinese restaurants around here. When you go inside no one is speaking English - I guess that's a good sign of authenticity.

That used to be an accurate tell tale sign. As the times change I've noticed that's not always the case. People's tastes have changed and there's more caucasians in authentic restuarants.
 
Originally posted by: jEct2
You're missing my point. There are NO americanized Korean or Japanese food regardless of restaurants. Why is Chinese such case?

As others have mentioned, Chinese food isn't the only one that's Americanized. It just takes some research to find out what foods were started in America. For example, I've been told by a Japanese friend that inside out sushi rolls started in America. It's on all the sushi menus in almost all sushi places, from bad restaurants to great restaurants, but it's not from Japan.

Edit: I think the same goes for the spicy rolls..
 
Originally posted by: PeeluckyDuckee
Originally posted by: Landroval
There are a lot of decent Chinese restaurants around here. When you go inside no one is speaking English - I guess that's a good sign of authenticity.

That used to be an accurate tell tale sign. As the times change I've noticed that's not always the case. People's tastes have changed and there's more caucasians in authentic restuarants.


The places we go are were alll picked by older family members, so it's definitely authentic 🙂 Fish eyeball, anyone?
 
Originally posted by: jj2005
I think the only way to eat real chinese food is to go to China. And if you want to eat real mexican food, go to Mexico. etc, etc. 😉 Just my two cents.

No, there are a lot of good authentic chinese restaurants where I live, but most of people who go there are chinese. the food is pretty good, but compared to the homemade chinese food that i eat, it's more oily and salty.
 
Originally posted by: jEct2
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: jEct2

I had dinner at my chinese friend's house. I couldn't swallow their food at all.... it was all bland, oily and slimey...

That is why.

And there is a different between cultural food from resturant and home cook food. There is Chinese food that is not Americanize. You really need to go to a real chinese restaurant

You're missing my point. There are NO americanized Korean or Japanese food regardless of restaurants. Why is Chinese such case?

as others have said, there is plenty of americanized japanese food out there. i don't think we can really compare japanese and chinese food to korean food for a couple reasons:

1. there aren't that many korean restaurants to begin with
2. korean businesses tend not to make an effort to serve non-koreans
 
Originally posted by: skace
The Chineese learned how to adapt their food to their target audience and make ass tons of money?

winner!

also, Chinese food has been mainstream longer than Japanese or Korean food, so it's had more time to adapt to American tastes.
 
Yes, all Chinese restaurants are Americanized. I'm Chinese and the food I eat at home is much different than the ones in restaurants. On the rare times I do eat at a Chinese restaurant, I can barely stomach the food. The extreme amounts of oil and sauce just makes me want to hurl. I am not ashamed to say that "Chinese American" food is absolutely horrible. As many have already mentioned, the homecook food I eat at home is bland and healthier compared to restaurant food. Perhaps it is my families preference to not pollute our foods with the ridiculous amounts of oil and sauces.
 
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