why is cheese so expensive now at grocery stores?????

[Staples]

Fat tax

 

[Red Squirrel]

People joke but I would not be surprised if they start taxing stuff that has fat in it. It seems they want to have a tax for everything now days. May as well throw a carbon tax on it too because the whole process of bringing the product to the shelves had a certain carbon footprint. They're actually going to be having a carbon tax here soon, and they will actually have a tax on that tax. Can't make that shit up.

 

[OutHouse]

It is but we consume all the cheese we make in our cheese curds.

bastards, do you know how hard it is to find cheese curds in Denver? thanks a lot. you pigs.

 

[OutHouse]

People joke but I would not be surprised if they start taxing stuff that has fat in it. It seems they want to have a tax for everything now days. May as well throw a carbon tax on it too because the whole process of bringing the product to the shelves had a certain carbon footprint. They're actually going to be having a carbon tax here soon, and they will actually have a tax on that tax. Can't make that shit up.

fat does not beget fat. that is one of the biggest lies ever.

https://authoritynutrition.com/top-13-nutrition-lies-that-made-the-world-sick-and-fat/

8. The Healthiest Diet is a Low-Fat, High-Carb Diet

Since the year 1977, the health authorities have told everyone to eat a low-fat, high-carb diet.

This was originally based on political decisions and low quality studies that have since been thoroughly debunked.

Interestingly, the obesity epidemic started at almost the exact same time the low-fat guidelines first came out.

Since then, several massive studies have examined the health effects of the low-fat diet.

In the Women’s Health Initiative, the biggest study on diet ever conducted, 48,835 women were randomized to either a low-fat diet or continued to eat the standard western diet.

After a study period of 7.5 years, the low-fat group weighed only 0.4 kg (1 lb) less and there was no decrease in cardiovascular disease or cancer (68, 69, 70).

Other studies agree with these findings… this diet is notoriously ineffective (71, 72).

Even though it may work for healthy and active individuals… for people with obesity, metabolic syndrome or diabetes, the low-fat diet can be downright harmful.

Bottom Line: The low-fat, high-carb diet recommended by the mainstream nutrition organizations is a miserable failure and has been repeatedly proven to be ineffective.

 

[Staples]

The so called fat tax is really a tax on soda and candy that predominantly people who are fat to an unhealthy degree are addicted to. Some countries have it as I understand but not the US. Knowing many individuals who are in the demographic of this added tax and the amount I see that they cost government health care programs (lets face it, most really fat people are poor and on government assistance), I'd favor a national fat tax.

 

[nakedfrog]

Read somewhere that some grated cheese has fillers in it. Not sure how prevalent that is or in what cheeses.

Are you referring to the recent hubbub over cellulose filler in grated parmesan?

 

[Red Squirrel]

fat does not beget fat. that is one of the biggest lies ever.

https://authoritynutrition.com/top-13-nutrition-lies-that-made-the-world-sick-and-fat/

For every study that says it's good there's one that says it's bad. Personally I'm on the fence about it because I rather wait till scientists come to an agreement. I just go with everything in moderation.

The general consensus seems to be that it's bad hence why there's so many "low fat" items out there but they just substitute with other stuff that's probably even worse. Kinda like diet pop, they substitute the sugar with aspertame, you're better off just having a regular pop - it's bad for you either way.

Then there's the whole gluten thing. That's a whole other can of worms. lol.

 

[MrSquished]

Are you referring to the recent hubbub over cellulose filler in grated parmesan?

I think it was parmesan. My mom stopped buying the costco shredded parm after we spoke about it. But I think it was wood pulp in there. My memory is foggy though.

 

[nakedfrog]

I think it was parmesan. My mom stopped buying the costco shredded parm after we spoke about it. But I think it was wood pulp in there. My memory is foggy though.

Yeah, wood pulp is cellulose for ingredient label purposes.

 

[ImpulsE69]

They put so many things so much worse than fat in our food that you never hear about. It's just a fad to sell higher priced 'low-fat' items.

 

[Red Squirrel]

They put so many things so much worse than fat in our food that you never hear about. It's just a fad to sell higher priced 'low-fat' items.

Yeah pretty much. Like the cellulose crap that was mentioned.

My favorite is when they sell "diet" versions of items, and it's literally simply smaller, but yet they charge more. "Diet" ice cream bars only 100 calories! You pay more for less! Speaking of ice cream and crap being put in our food, don't buy Breyers. But with all these things that come out with time it makes you wonder what products you even can trust. It's going to be even worse once the TPP goes through as the existing regulations will be out the window.

 

[nakedfrog]

Yeah pretty much. Like the cellulose crap that was mentioned.

Oh? What's specifically bad about it? The only real issue there was that some of them had a higher content than stated on the label, not the fact that it was in there at all.

 

[Matthiasa]

Hmm anyone that wants cheese preshredded should understand what a mess it would be without the added cellulose. Nothing quite like giant clumps of cheese to ruin its convenience.

 

[sdifox]

Oh? What's specifically bad about it? The only real issue there was that some of them had a higher content than stated on the label, not the fact that it was in there at all.

when I am buying cheese, I don't want anything else in it.

 

[Red Squirrel]

when I am buying cheese, I don't want anything else in it.

Exactly. Especially not ingredients you would normally get at a hardware store.

 

[mindless1]

Hmm anyone that wants cheese preshredded should understand what a mess it would be without the added cellulose. Nothing quite like giant clumps of cheese to ruin its convenience.

Yes, I'm fine with cellulose in shredded so long as it's the minimal amount needed to do the job instead of extra as a filler, lest they put something harmful and more expensive in as an anti-caking agent instead.

If you eat plants fruit vegetables etc. you are eating cellulose. It's not just ground up wood, has to be processed to extract the cellulose.

Ironically, you might actually be a little better off if your cheese has a little less cheese in it.

 

[lxskllr]

Hmm anyone that wants cheese preshredded should understand what a mess it would be without the added cellulose. Nothing quite like giant clumps of cheese to ruin its convenience.

Exactly. When I buy shredded/grated cheese, I want convenience. If I want top quality cheese, I do it myself. I don't care so much if my tortilla chips have sub premium melted cheese on top, and cellulose in my grated cheese doesn't negatively affect the flavor of my Chef Boyardee mini ravioli one iota.

 

[mindless1]

The only time I shred cheese is for coneys, on which I prefer a thinner shred than can be bought.

 

[OutHouse]

Yeah pretty much. Like the cellulose crap that was mentioned.

My favorite is when they sell "diet" versions of items, and it's literally simply smaller, but yet they charge more. "Diet" ice cream bars only 100 calories! You pay more for less! Speaking of ice cream and crap being put in our food, don't buy Breyers. But with all these things that come out with time it makes you wonder what products you even can trust. It's going to be even worse once the TPP goes through as the existing regulations will be out the window.

like diet water. lol

 

[destrekor]

For every study that says it's good there's one that says it's bad. Personally I'm on the fence about it because I rather wait till scientists come to an agreement. I just go with everything in moderation.

The general consensus seems to be that it's bad hence why there's so many "low fat" items out there but they just substitute with other stuff that's probably even worse. Kinda like diet pop, they substitute the sugar with aspertame, you're better off just having a regular pop - it's bad for you either way.

Then there's the whole gluten thing. That's a whole other can of worms. lol.

The general consensus is actually slowly moving toward less added sugar now compared to lower fat. Trans fat is still the enemy of nutrition, that won't change, but the other fats, it has actually been documented that our obsession with "low fat" everything has actually made us more fat. The low-fat thing was kicked off by industry-sponsored government-backed studies, and the sugar industry actually played a heavy hand. I believe some initial studies back in the 60s actually demonstrated sugar was the enemy but that was quickly squashed.

It was always thought that eating fat meant you put on fat. But typically all that fat weight? It's caused by high carbs alongside fat intake. The body will always break down simple carbs before anything else for energy, because it's the least energy-intensive method of digestion. It's quick and efficient. What this tends to accomplish is the fatty acids you consumed end up getting stored because the body got most of what it needed from the carbs.

And low-fat, high carb diets tend you make you feel hungry more often, so you eat more. Simple carbs are easy to break down, yes, but also very short lasting, so once a meal is over and the body has used its energy, your blood sugar drops and the body signals it's hungry again. And it won't be thinking about your figure, and about all the energy it has stored away in your fatty tissue, because that's for emergencies - if the body can convince you to get more food now, it can continue to save that until it really needs it.

It's of course all about moderation though. A relatively high-fat diet (more like moderate fat intake) with good fats, mostly unsaturated fats but some saturated is still plenty okay, will satisfy energy requirements and also create a more slow release of energy, one that keeps your blood sugar levels relatively consistent.

The other issue with these low-fat foods is most of them replace the fat with higher sugar content and a lot of fillers to help imitate the taste and mouth feel of the full-fat product. It would be better to just eat the full-fat item in the first place.