Why is Bush trying to make his cabnet so diverse?

[Russ]

<< I find it ironic that the liberals are making an issue of the race of those people. >>



In today's world, liberals are the only people left who make an issue of race. They are terrified of losing the minority vote, and they are aware that if the TRUTH gets out, that is precisely what will happen.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Capn]

See everyone, veryape said it very clearly that powell and rice don't act black enough for him. What is &quot;acting black&quot; I'd really like to know, cause all my black friends seem to act about the same as everyone else. You know what too, all my asian friends seem to act about the same, and say the same thing about my Indian friends, so I don't think race has anything to do with how you act. Where you grow up does and you can't deny there are cultural differences between some areas of the country and others, but to say the way we act varies on race is the core of racial prejudice. Maybe you could look up some information, help of the germans back in the 40's on Rassenwissenschaft, seems to be right up your ally.

 

[BoberFett]

I guess Bush should have offered the Secretary of State position to somebody who'd get on the podium and &quot;Give a shout out to all the niggaz in da house!&quot; From what I'm hearing from the Dems, that would accurately represent the black community. Maybe he could put on gang colors too, because obviously all blacks are part of gangs. Is that what it means to be black?

Damn, I can't believe how racist Dems are.

 

[classy]

&quot;Bush didn't get more than 10% of the Black vote&quot; Tagej, I don't know where you've been, but Thomas voted for him. He got 100% of the Black vote.

Moonbeam that was the best one yet. LMAO

 

[FettsBabe]

Powell would be a excellent choice for President, and one day I think he will be. I would gladly vote for him. He is an excellent person. Notice I didn't say Black.

I can't believe some people are bitching over him being SOS. America needs trust and people trust Powell. Very good choice.



<< Russ, Nobody qualifies more for the Job than powell and Rice already worked under daddies administration as a NSA counsul on Russian affairs, these are good choices, just contrived. >>



I'm sorry Shux, but I fail to see your logic (is there any?). Why is a good choice &quot;contrived?&quot; Sorry but your statement is just &quot;dumb.&quot;

 

[Dean]

The only guy in Washington who problably does not know how to do his job is Bush himself, at least he's appointing some people who can carry the U.S for the next 4 years. All Bush needs to do now is connect the strings to his elbows and hands and let the qualified people do their job.

 

[I'm Typing]

Quote:

<< Unlike you, I only believe it's filling quotas if the individual selected is unqualified for the position. >>



Nice Republican doublespeak! Nowhere does Russ say that they are the BEST persons for the job, just that they are &quot;qualified&quot; to do the job. Since when did you start believing in affirmative action, Russ?

{DISCLAIMER: What I am about to say cannot be taken as racist, because I am NOT saying that white persons in general are more or less qualified to do ANYTHING.}
Since it is possible that the &quot;most qualified&quot; persons to do this job might be white, GWB is possibly engaging in pure Tokenism to fill the positions. I for one could probably find persons more qualified to do the jobs assigned, but that is not for me to do...it is for GWB's puppeteers to do.

Then again, if they are using skin colors as one of the qualifiers for the job....
🙂

 

[Double Trouble]

Shux, your viewpoints on most issues are closest to the Libertarian ideology -- as are mine. You get labled a &quot;liberal&quot; because in many posts I see you repeating the exact same things the liberals in the media and the democrats say and write. Your attempts at discrediting Bush make it seem like Al Gore stole your account 😉

For the record, I'm anything but a 'sheep'. I very much disagree with most conservatives on some issues, and in most issues I tend to agree with the Libertarian viewpoint... I don't simply repeat 'the party line' without considering the issues and thinking them through. If that makes me a sheep, then Beeeeeeeh! 😉

 

[CinderElmo]

Taken from CNN.com;

&quot;Condoleezza Rice was born into segregated Birmingham, Ala., in the autumn of 1954. She was just 9 years old when a bomb exploded in the 16th Street Baptist Church, infamously killing four black girls, including a friend from kindergarten. Rice was at Sunday School, just a couple blocks away.

They were scary times, she said.

&quot;The men in the community, my father among them, would go to the head of the cul-de-sac at night and sit there armed to keep night riders from coming through,&quot; she wrote in an essay for Time magazine.&quot;

If Rice doesn't know what it means &quot;to be black&quot; then I would like to know someone who does. Some people wouldn't be happy unless there was a trash talking, in-yo-face, gangsta rapper in the white house. If that is how you see the black community then I feel sorry for you.

 

[NesuD]

Shux and veryape: I don't get it you are unhappy because Powell and Rice who are both highly qualified and have worked closely in the past with the Bush people were appointed to top cabinet posts. I think it was Veryape who indicated that they don't know what it is to be black. Since when does that have anything to do with cabinet appointments? I am sure that several of Clintons minority appointees Don't know what it means to be white either. Before you start flaming me about what a stupid statement that was just think about the stupidity of &quot;Don't know what it means to be black&quot; both statements are equally stupid and irrelevant. I would bet money that they both know what it means to be an american though and when you get right down to it that Holds a hell of a lot more water than the other. These are both resourceful nd independent people that got where they are through their own hard work not because of some gimme based on the color of their skin.

 

[etech]

Damn, where were all the liberals complaining when Clinton appointed minorities to his cabinet. Were they &quot;tokens&quot; also , were they the &quot;best qualified&quot; irregardless of race? Why didn't you raise these same questions then?

It's a non-issue folks. Some people are only whining because it is Pres. Elect Bush who is making the appointments.

 

[ride525]

This thread amazes me.....

So far Bush's picks look good to me....well qualified, and people Bush feels comfortable working with, the two most important things....

Hopefully history will also show they are good picks.....(Now if we could just get Stormin' Norman for Secretary of Defense.)

 

[NesuD]

I'm Typing actually nowhere does it say that the president is obligated to get the very best person for each job. The president has the prerogative to select people that he has faith in and is comfortable with. For cryin out loud The Clintons didn't get anywhere near the best qualified people for their cabinet in many cases but that was their prerogative so i didn't question it.

 

[Optimus]

Powell and Rice would be my choices if I were in Bush's shoes.

I'm sorry, but why does their skin color matter?

Talk about no-win for Bush... if they had been white the Dems would be in a frenzy of joy that &quot;Dubya&quot; was so &quot;racist&quot; and a &quot;good ole' boy&quot;... but if he chooses uncontestedly qualified minority people, he is just &quot;faking it&quot; with his entire cabinet?

WTF?

Other than &quot;give the election to Gore and die&quot;, what exactly do the Democrats want Bush to do? What should he have done? Or is it more like you'd hate him no matter what because thats the party line?



😕

 

[Shuxclams]

Tagej,
We see eye to eye in alot of instances, that is why I was bummed, I don't perseive you individually as one of the &quot;sheep&quot;, maybe your perseption of my &quot;repeating the exact same things the liberals in the media and the democrats say and write&quot; is the same as my &quot;lock-stepping sheep&quot; comment, only thing is I am willing to call the so called &quot;liberals&quot; on this board sheep as well for not seeing beyond the spin.

NesuD,
Where did I say I was unhappy with those choices? I am mearly pointing out that his announced appointments and the timing of them are a transparent ploy at &quot;Mending Fences&quot;, nothing more nothing less. Its seems that it is working on the Sleepwalkers and Sheep, fourtunatly I never trust the Goverment and or the Governing, so I feel a little less fooled by these types of brainwashing events that clearly are made to make the populace feel good about the new President and the two party system. 🙂




SHUX

 

[ride525]

<< so I feel a little less fooled by these types of brainwashing events that clearly are made to make the populace feel good about the new President and the two party system. >>


Is it better for the new President to take steps to make the populace feel good about the new President, or to take steps to make the populace feel bad about the new president?

 

[NesuD]

Shux the fact that you seem so critical of his motivations leads one to beleive that you are unhappy with the choices. If I misunderstood your intent i apologize but unless I am very mistaken all indications were that he would offer the SOS Powell several months ago I don't really see how that can be construed as a tranparent ploy to mend fences. If you meant that part of the reason for his selections was to please some of this countries minority groups I would have to say that there is most likely some basis in fact for that. At the same time it must be remembered that all Presidents do basically the same thing so this would be nothing new. It is part of the role of the president to bring together all the diverse groups of citizens an include them in the business of the government. Accepting this premise I personally don't see what is so very transparent about his choices.

 

[Shuxclams]

ride, its about awareness, being guided by the &quot;Liberal&quot; or &quot;Conservative&quot; media is one in the same, guided. Seeing it for what it is makes it clear that its back to the status quo, which IMO is suck...... There will be no significant change, taxes will stay the same, freedom will be attacked and the populace will just say Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah with a smile on thier faces.






SHUX

 

[etech]

Shux, and you get all of that out of the order in which Pres. Elect Bush announced some cabinet appointments. He isn't even President yet and you have already decided he is a failure. Nice open mind you have there.

 

[ride525]

Well, I think President Elect Bush is off to a good start.....

Isn't mending fences, better than not mending fences?

 

[Shuxclams]

etech,
I would have the same critizism of Gore had he won and appointed conservatives in a public and obvious fashion as what is happening here, and have no dougbts he would have if the shoe was on the other foot.






SHUX

 

[NesuD]

I think shux is simply an anarchist that would like nothing better than to simply see our government go down in flames no matter the consequences.

 

[FettsBabe]

Shux - I would hate to have your negative attitude. You have condemned the President-Elect without even giving him the opportunity to succeed or fail. At least give him the chance. However, I think you are so biased and pissed off that you never will. Sad, very sad indeed 🙁



<< Where did I say I was unhappy with those choices? I am mearly pointing out that his announced appointments and the timing of them are a transparent ploy at &quot;Mending Fences&quot;, nothing more nothing less. >>



Like I said...sad, very sad indeed. Everything is done for a reason, and these are good people. Every minority isn't chosen just to mend a fence. BTW, Powell is a minority (there aren't to many excellent people in this world). Sad 🙁

 

[Russ]

<< Nice Republican doublespeak! Nowhere does Russ say that they are the BEST persons for the job, just that they are &quot;qualified&quot; to do the job. >>



Typing,

I don't know if they are the &quot;best&quot;. Do you know who is the &quot;best&quot;? Have you read the qualifications and interviewed every possible candidate in the country? I didn't think so.

I do know that we, as a nation, and even you Guilty White Liberals, are lucky to have people of this caliber willing to serve. Unlike you, it doesn't matter to me what their skin color happens to be.

Russ, NCNE

 

[Russ]

<< I would have the same critizism of Gore had he won and appointed conservatives in a public and obvious fashion as what is happening here >>



Uh, Shux, it's a little hard to fill cabinet posts secretly. Duh.

Russ, NCNE