why is being a muslim disatrous

[seemingly random]

It doesn't matter to me what religion he is.

So, for those with this opinion, would it still make no difference if he was a wicken or a pastafarian?

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: GeordieLife
How many christian rulers in the middle east? I couldn't care less what religion he is. I'm English. He seems like a tool though.

I can't believe he's having Joss Stone (an English girl from Devon) singing his campaign song. Flag waving americans are sure to love that!

Um, aren't they like our closest allies or something? It could be worse, he could have that ugly chinese girl singing it.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: mugs
We've only even managed to have one president who was Catholic. That was a big deal, and that's only a different variety of Christian. :laugh: Too many people want this to be a Christian nation, with religion permeating the law. Electing a Muslim would throw a wrench in the works. And of course you have the bigots like boomerang who blame all Muslims for not preventing 9/11, but apparently give all Christians a pass for their acts of terrorism.

whats the last time a cartoon inspired christians around the world to start murdering?

cultural relativism has run amuck. some ideologies are worse than others. its pretty clear although unacknowledged because of political correctness.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

It doesn't matter to me what religion he is.

So, for those with this opinion, would it still make no difference if he was a wicken or a pastafarian?

Wiccan?

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: seemingly random

It doesn't matter to me what religion he is.

So, for those with this opinion, would it still make no difference if he was a wicken or a pastafarian?

Wiccan?

scientologist.

btw they haven't been stabbing people to death over films they find offensive.
no beheadings either.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: seemingly random

It doesn't matter to me what religion he is.

So, for those with this opinion, would it still make no difference if he was a wicken or a pastafarian?

Wiccan?

No, it's a little known group who worship candle wicks... very secretive.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: seemingly random

It doesn't matter to me what religion he is.

So, for those with this opinion, would it still make no difference if he was a wicken or a pastafarian?

Wiccan?

I'd vote for a pastafarian over a Christian any day of the week. At least they wouldn't be taking marching orders from the FSM.

 

[Ksyder]

Reverend Wright is a Christian, is he not? FWIW I doubt if he is a secret muslim he'd spend any amount of time at a crazy Christian church. I'm the wrong person to answer this question I'd think its but its worth mentioning.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: seemingly random

It doesn't matter to me what religion he is.

So, for those with this opinion, would it still make no difference if he was a wicken or a pastafarian?

Wiccan?

No, it's a little known group who worship candle wicks... very secretive.

Oh, I wasn't sure. There's also those wack jobs that worship wicker furniture.

 

[sdifox]

Thank Bin Laden, the American government and media for that one. The professed Christian majority of the American people are quite insular when it comes to anything perceived to be non-American. And the fear of the unknown is always a big thing. So you start with the Israel thing, which already paint the Muslim nations in a bad light (justifiably so). Then came OPEC, the Gulf Wars, followed by 9/11. Plus the government propaganda + media sensationalism and you end up where you are now.

Sad part is, none of the issues are related to Islam. Just like the Crusades, religion was just the most convenient excuse.

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the muslim religion remains unreformed. there is credible critical bible scholarship in Christianity. the documents are from many sources, second hand, edited, changed through time and from different or contradictory perspectives.
the muslim religion on the other hand is based on the perfect unchanged through time view of the koran and that it is direct from god as it gets. its countless flaws are hard to explain away. and as muslims readily admit, its more a total way of life rather than a regular religion. and of course mohammed mixed religion and government and the military in a rather horrible way. if you profess to follow this ideology yes, it is highly relevant when it comes to positions like the president.
the question isn't why being a muslim is bad. its why would it be good.

You being alive is bad. I'm not sure why that would be good.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: DangerAardvark
Secret Muslim theories are as wacky as conspiracy theories. The very idea is just retarded. Like he keeps a Koran in a hollowed-out Bible that he masturbates to at night. You know how you become a Muslim? You recite a Haiku. Going apostate is even easier. Now put two and two together.

I find it more likely that he is a secret Atheist. I'm already wary of him being a Christian. But a practicing Christian and secret Atheist is just contemptible. That said, he does seem to be committed (ostensibly) to separation of church and state.

ASH-HADU ANLA ELAHA ILLA-ALLAH WA ASH-HADU ANNA MOHAMMADAN RASUL-ALLAH

that's not a haiku!





edit: i'm voting for obama because he's a muslim


edit2: ohsh!t am i a muslim too now?

 

[zoiks]

Christian evangelists and various sects of the Christian religion view Muslims as enemies and evil. That is a fact. It also doesn't help that the Jewish lobby does the same and tries to vilify Muslims every chance they get.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: seemingly random

It doesn't matter to me what religion he is.

So, for those with this opinion, would it still make no difference if he was a wicken or a pastafarian?

Wiccan?

No, it's a little known group who worship candle wicks... very secretive.

Oh, I wasn't sure. There's also those wack jobs that worship wicker furniture.

Really? This thread has been quite enlightening.

There's the wickets also. They worship small, easily portable wire arches that are arranged in elusive patterns in lawns. Some of their props include long mallets and wooden softballs. Quite an eclectic bunch. I don't think they're dangerous although they've been known to have fits and send other member's props off into the hinterlands.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Confusednewbie1552
First off: Yes I (and hope that you) know that Obama is a christian. Also, Im not sure if I should post this in politics and news, or whether or not this has been discussed before but...

why does it even matter whether or not barrack obama is a muslim?

is our country really that intolerant? I mean if it is, shouldn't we be trying to do something about that?

I feel that so long we as a people consider being a muslim is "bad", we will never make any peaceful breakthroughs in the middle east. How could we deal and peacefully cooperate with people we inherently/subconsiciously believe are evil?

Im sorry if im being ignorant here, but honestly, if anything, being a muslim and running for the highest office in the land to me would be as good as being a black man running for the highest office in the land.

1st - Was born Muslim and had years or Madrasa education that makes his roots muslim... and eventually at some point in your life we want to go back to your roots.. but theres nothing wrong in that as long as he admits it. He says that i was never a Muslim... HE is the one who is making a big deal out of it by denying it.
One one hand he still has a muslim middle name and says that I was never a muslim... just like in every other issue he wants to deny truth about him

 

[TallBill]

Obama or your mamma?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: andy04

1st - Was born Muslim and had years or Madrasa education that makes his roots muslim... and eventually at some point in your life we want to go back to your roots.. but theres nothing wrong in that as long as he admits it. He says that i was never a Muslim... HE is the one who is making a big deal out of it by denying it.
One one hand he still has a muslim middle name and says that I was never a muslim... just like in every other issue he wants to deny truth about him

:laugh: What an arbitrary thing to say. I wonder how McCain has resisted the urge all his life to go back to living by the Panama Canal.

Obama wasn't born a Muslim, he was born a human being.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: andy04

1st - Was born Muslim and had years or Madrasa education that makes his roots muslim... and eventually at some point in your life we want to go back to your roots.. but theres nothing wrong in that as long as he admits it. He says that i was never a Muslim... HE is the one who is making a big deal out of it by denying it.
One one hand he still has a muslim middle name and says that I was never a muslim... just like in every other issue he wants to deny truth about him

:laugh: What an arbitrary thing to say. I wonder how McCain has resisted the urge all his life to go back to living by the Panama Canal.

Obama wasn't born a Muslim, he was born a human being.

Very True I totally agree with you. I have no problem with his past what so ever, I just want him to admit what everyone who has even a little bit common sence knows. Why does he deny it...
We are all born humans but we have a belief system with names nothing wrong in taking those names with pride. If you are ashamed of it then YES there is a problem.

 

[JS80]

MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE

 

[AccruedExpenditure]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the muslim religion remains unreformed. there is credible critical bible scholarship in Christianity. the documents are from many sources, second hand, edited, changed through time and from different or contradictory perspectives.
the muslim religion on the other hand is based on the perfect unchanged through time view of the koran and that it is direct from god as it gets. its countless flaws are hard to explain away. and as muslims readily admit, its more a total way of life rather than a regular religion. and of course mohammed mixed religion and government and the military in a rather horrible way. if you profess to follow this ideology yes, it is highly relevant when it comes to positions like the president.
the question isn't why being a muslim is bad. its why would it be good.

Are you serious? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: seemingly random

Originally posted by: boomerang
Some Muslims take a passage in a book very seriously. This passage in essence says that all non-Muslims must die. Although we're told that Muslims are a peaceful people, the violent ones have the financial backing and means to wreak havoc on the world at this point in time.

Which passage in which book? You've read this yourself or heard about it from others?

If they succeed, this faction will have the entire planet either adopt their beliefs, or die. As all this is happening, the peace loving Muslims are sitting on their hands and doing nothing to rein in the radicals.

So, yes, it matters if BHO is a Muslim.

And this is differs from the basic goals of any other religion how?

We don't have to inherently/subconsciously believe they are evil, we know they are.

All muslims? There is just the slightest chance that this is an over-broad generalization. Will you feel stupid if proved so? How does one go about proving that another is not evil? How do I know that you're not evil? Is there a checklist you could post or link to?

These people flew planes into our buildings and killed thousands of people. A passage in a book told them to do this. They're killing and blowing up people right now.

The U.S. likes to throw their weight around. We'd like to dictate to people that our way of life (democracy) is best. We've fought wars over this in the past and are doing so right now.

But, we are not telling people which god to worship under penalty of death as radical Muslims are.

Prove to me BHO is not a Muslim. Spare me the church he goes to. Prove it to me.

Edit in bold to clarify my position.

How old are you? I can visualize you stamping your feet protesting that others don't agree with you.

You're not really this naive, are you?

Hahaha. I can't tell if it's a troll post or not; some people do believe that kinda crap.

We don't have to inherently/subconsciously believe they are evil, we know they are.

:laugh:

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: AccruedExpenditure

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
the muslim religion remains unreformed. there is credible critical bible scholarship in Christianity. the documents are from many sources, second hand, edited, changed through time and from different or contradictory perspectives.
the muslim religion on the other hand is based on the perfect unchanged through time view of the koran and that it is direct from god as it gets. its countless flaws are hard to explain away. and as muslims readily admit, its more a total way of life rather than a regular religion. and of course mohammed mixed religion and government and the military in a rather horrible way. if you profess to follow this ideology yes, it is highly relevant when it comes to positions like the president.
the question isn't why being a muslim is bad. its why would it be good.

Are you serious? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Agreed, it has good and bad thing just like any other religion. But the problem is that it was created/born under repeated attacks by the crusaders who constantly distubed their peace - thats why it teaches to kill all whites.
sorry for trolling :evil:

 

[RESmonkey]

Politics and religion: the worst things in the world.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Politics and religion: the worst things in the world.

And for some reason, where there is one, the other is close by - like dumb and dumber.

Religion has caused an inordinate amount of human suffering.

 

[Turin39789]

You have to be/claim to be christian to get elected president in America. We will have many minorty presidents before we get a non-christian(muslim,atheist,buddhist etc) one.