Why is Ahmadinejad claiming the US used Nuclear weapons in Iraq?

[Bateluer]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/05/01/iran.ahmadinejad/index.html?hpt=T2

The United States "is the only country to have used the atomic bomb in military conflict," Ahmadinejad said Saturday, according to Press TV. "They even admit themselves that they resorted to using (similar weapons) during the war they waged on Iraq."

Uh, I'm no nuclear physicist, but I'm fairly sure that if you deploy a nuclear weapon, its going to get noticed.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said he has proof the United States and Israel are linked to the world's leading terrorist organizations, according to state-run media.

I also like this tidbit. I know the US doesn't have a guilt free record and we've propped up our share of dictators and oppressive governments, but Iran's Islamic 'republic' isn't exactly the ethical high ground.

Since the current US administration won't do anything more than talk tough, I hope Israel takes Iran's nuclear weapons program a little more seriously.

 

[dguy6789]

Ahmadinejad has always been a crackpot. This is not news.

 

[MotF Bane]

Ahmadinejad has always been a crackpot. This is not news.

Pretty much this.

 

[NoWhereM]

Ahmadinejad isn't that bright. I would imagine he is referring to depleted uranium use in Iraq and simply doesn't understand the difference between that and an atomic bomb or a dirty bomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

 

[Lemon law]

To what extent can we say Anmadinejad is not correct given the the US overuse of depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq, during Gulf war one and two?

Sometimes the truth hurts and can't be denied out of hand. Even when a total wack job nut is accidentally correct, thus making US denial more internally plausible but not logically more internally or externally defensible.

 

[Aegeon]

To what extent can we say Anmadinejad is not correct given the the US overuse of depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq, during Gulf war one and two?

Sometimes the truth hurts and can't be denied out of hand. Even when a total wack job nut is accidentally correct, thus making US denial more internally plausible but not logically more internally or externally defensible.

Because depleted uranium doesn't even remotely vaguely resemble a nuclear weapon by any sane estimation.

Its a case of the name causing confusion even though its not that significant a source of radioactivity. We're talking about something arguably no more dangerous than other heavy metals used, with Tungsten for instance actually having its own health issues.

Since its mostly used in an anti-armor role, its degree of recent use in Iraq can also be heavily overstated.

 

[Harabec]

To what extent can we say Anmadinejad is not correct given the the US overuse of depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq, during Gulf war one and two?

Sometimes the truth hurts and can't be denied out of hand. Even when a total wack job nut is accidentally correct, thus making US denial more internally plausible but not logically more internally or externally defensible.

He is incorrect to the full extent - always.

 

[guyver01]

To what extent can we say Anmadinejad is not correct

I'm pretty sure CNN woulda had a reporter spotting this:

somewhere in Iraq. Even if you believe the government woulda covered it up... somewhere, someone woulda leaked it to some world press.

 

[soccerballtux]

Ahmadinejad is crazy.

http://www.president.ir/en/?ArtID=10114

"O dear Imam (Khomeini)! You said the Zionist Regime that is a usurper and illegitimate regime and a cancerous tumor should be wiped off the map. I should say that your illuminating remark and cause is going to come true today. The Zionist Regime has
lost its existence philosophy... the Zionist regime faces a complete deadend and under God's grace your wish will soon be materialized and the corrupt element will be wiped off the map," said President Ahmadinejad.

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP101305

Iranian President at Tehran Conference: 'Very Soon, This Stain of Disgrace [i.e. Israel] Will Be Purged From the Center of the Islamic World – and This is Attainable'

http://former.president.ir/khatami/eng/cronicnews/1379/7910/791007/791007.htm
["Leader Muslims" at the bottom]

Ayatollah Khamenei told ambassadors of the Islamic states on the occasion of the Eid-ul Fitr, marking the end of the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadhan. He said: "It is an Islamic and humanitarian duty for the Muslims worldwide to support the Palestinians." The leader likened the Zionist regime to a "cancerous tumor" which, he added, poses a big threat to all Islamic states. He said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth. In the meantime, President Mohammad Khatami who was also present at the meeting, pointed to religious, ethnic and racial divisions among the Muslim nations and noted that the global arrogance (an allusion to the United States) is undertaking relentless efforts to disrupt the unity among the Islamic states.

 

[soccerballtux]

Ahmadinejad is crazy.

http://www.president.ir/en/?ArtID=10114

"O dear Imam (Khomeini)! You said the Zionist Regime that is a usurper and illegitimate regime and a cancerous tumor should be wiped off the map. I should say that your illuminating remark and cause is going to come true today. The Zionist Regime has
lost its existence philosophy... the Zionist regime faces a complete deadend and under God's grace your wish will soon be materialized and the corrupt element will be wiped off the map," said President Ahmadinejad.

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP101305

Iranian President at Tehran Conference: 'Very Soon, This Stain of Disgrace [i.e. Israel] Will Be Purged From the Center of the Islamic World – and This is Attainable'

http://former.president.ir/khatami/eng/cronicnews/1379/7910/791007/791007.htm
["Leader Muslims" at the bottom]

Ayatollah Khamenei told ambassadors of the Islamic states on the occasion of the Eid-ul Fitr, marking the end of the holy Muslim fasting month of Ramadhan. He said: "It is an Islamic and humanitarian duty for the Muslims worldwide to support the Palestinians." The leader likened the Zionist regime to a "cancerous tumor" which, he added, poses a big threat to all Islamic states. He said that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth. In the meantime, President Mohammad Khatami who was also present at the meeting, pointed to religious, ethnic and racial divisions among the Muslim nations and noted that the global arrogance (an allusion to the United States) is undertaking relentless efforts to disrupt the unity among the Islamic states.

 

[irishScott]

To what extent can we say Anmadinejad is not correct given the the US overuse of depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq, during Gulf war one and two?

Sometimes the truth hurts and can't be denied out of hand. Even when a total wack job nut is accidentally correct, thus making US denial more internally plausible but not logically more internally or externally defensible.

I think you and Ackmajinafuck need to play Starcraft. That's how I learned the difference between depleted Uranium rounds and nukes, back in 5th grade.

 

[Bateluer]

I think you and Ackmajinafuck need to play Starcraft. That's how I learned the difference between depleted Uranium rounds and nukes, back in 5th grade.

Nuclear launch detected!

 

[theflyingpig]

To what extent can we say Anmadinejad is not correct given the the US overuse of depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq, during Gulf war one and two?

Sometimes the truth hurts and can't be denied out of hand. Even when a total wack job nut is accidentally correct, thus making US denial more internally plausible but not logically more internally or externally defensible.

Pathetic. Fools like you are what is wrong with the world today. Everyone knows this.

 

[William Gaatjes]

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/05/01/iran.ahmadinejad/index.html?hpt=T2



Uh, I'm no nuclear physicist, but I'm fairly sure that if you deploy a nuclear weapon, its going to get noticed.



I also like this tidbit. I know the US doesn't have a guilt free record and we've propped up our share of dictators and oppressive governments, but Iran's Islamic 'republic' isn't exactly the ethical high ground.

Since the current US administration won't do anything more than talk tough, I hope Israel takes Iran's nuclear weapons program a little more seriously.

The only thing i can think of is bullets made of depleted uranium. And if i am not mistaken does the M1 not use depleted uranium armour or something ?
Depeleted uranium when vaporized , has very nasty side effects, it seems.


http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs257/en/

Intake of depleted uranium

Average annual intakes of uranium by adults are estimated to be about 0.5mg (500 μg) from ingestion of food and water and 0.6 μg from breathing air.
Ingestion of small amounts of DU contaminated soil by small children may occur while playing.
Contact exposure of DU through the skin is normally very low and unimportant.
Intake from wound contamination or embedded fragments in skin tissues may allow DU to enter the systemic circulation.
Absorption of depleted uranium
About 98% of uranium entering the body via ingestion is not absorbed, but is eliminated via the faeces. Typical gut absorption rates for uranium in food and water are about 2% for soluble and about 0.2% for insoluble uranium compounds.
The fraction of uranium absorbed into the blood is generally greater following inhalation than following ingestion of the same chemical form. The fraction will also depend on the particle size distribution. For some soluble forms, more than 20% of the inhaled material could be absorbed into blood.
Of the uranium that is absorbed into the blood, approximately 70% will be filtered by the kidney and excreted in the urine within 24 hours; this amount increases to 90% within a few days.

In the kidneys, the proximal tubules (the main filtering component of the kidney) are considered to be the main site of potential damage from chemical toxicity of uranium. There is limited information from human studies indicating that the severity of effects on kidney function and the time taken for renal function to return to normal both increase with the level of uranium exposure.
In a number of studies on uranium miners, an increased risk of lung cancer was demonstrated, but this has been attributed to exposure from radon decay products. Lung tissue damage is possible leading to a risk of lung cancer that increases with increasing radiation dose. However, because DU is only weakly radioactive, very large amounts of dust (on the order of grams) would have to be inhaled for the additional risk of lung cancer to be detectable in an exposed group. Risks for other radiation-induced cancers, including leukaemia, are considered to be very much lower than for lung cancer.
Erythema (superficial inflammation of the skin) or other effects on the skin are unlikely to occur even if DU is held against the skin for long periods (weeks).
No consistent or confirmed adverse chemical effects of uranium have been reported for the skeleton or liver.
No reproductive or developmental effects have been reported in humans.
Although uranium released from embedded fragments may accumulate in the central nervous system (CNS) tissue, and some animal and human studies are suggestive of effects on CNS function, it is difficult to draw firm conclusions from the few studies reported.

EDIT:
The bolded section in the quoted text has it seems never been tested on humans.
It has on animals, and seems to have it effects.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

It is suspected that DU is part of the cause of the gulfwar syndrome.
I have seen this in a documentary once, i do not know if it is true :
Another part of the cause of the gulfware syndrome would be blowing up the chemical plants / storage facilities of Saddam Hussein because evidence was present that most material to build chemical weapons was acquired from the US it self and western partners. That would kind of have looked bad in public... It is strange these facilities had to be blown up immediately instead of being inspected and cataloged for reference and rapports. Blowing up and burning chemicals that are very lethal. Strange...

 

[JEDIYoda]

To what extent can we say Anmadinejad is not correct given the the US overuse of depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq, during Gulf war one and two?

Sometimes the truth hurts and can't be denied out of hand. Even when a total wack job nut is accidentally correct, thus making US denial more internally plausible but not logically more internally or externally defensible.

Lemon law and Ahmadinejad are brothers!!

 

[William Gaatjes]

Anmadinejad is like most fundamentalists, afraid because maybe all Iranain women might end up as this woman. A very beautiful woman and smarter then most men :

http://www.anoushehansari.com/

Anousheh immigrated to the United States as a teenager who did not speak English. She earned a bachelor’s6 degree in electronics and computer engineering from George Mason University, followed by a master’s degree in electrical engineering from George Washington University.

Very deep sigh...

 

[guyver01]

Why are we even allowing this fucktard into the country? Why is he not on a "shoot on site" list?

 

[William Gaatjes]

In all defense of Anmadinejad and current Iran.
You do know that the way women dress in Iran would be an invitation to the acid throwers from Afghanistan and Pakistan ? The women in Iran may dress conservatively in western eyes, but the dress code in Iran is way to liberal and exposing for the acid throwers or other like proponents of burkas. The funny thing is, if you want a quick path to a future modern moderate islam. Iran might actually be that road to cross. Much dialogs are needed, when looking at the history of the middle east. Iran is actually the best chance. But first the fundamental fires must be extinguished in Israel and Iran. Then a dialog can be formed for peace.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

In all defense of Anmadinejad and current Iran.
You do know that the way women dress in Iran would be an invitation to the acid throwers from Afghanistan and Pakistan ? The women in Iran may dress conservatively in western eyes, but the dress code in Iran is way to liberal and exposing for the acid throwers or other like proponents of burkas. The funny thing is, if you want a quick path to a future modern moderate islam. Iran might actually be that road to cross. Much dialogs are needed, when looking at the history of the middle east. Iran is actually the best chance. But first the fundamental fires must be extinguished in Israel and Iran. Then a dialog can be formed for peace.

That has long been true, but the relative freedoms that exist in Iran cannot be credited to the current leadership. They exist in spite of them because that's how Iran has been for quite some time.

LL, that's reaching. You might as well say we use chemical weapons because some petroleum products are toxic. Iranians have good qualities as a people, but Imadinnerjacket is bloody insane. If he actually were in charge and not some whackjob mouthpiece I'd say he was a real danger. As it is, he's just nuts.

 

[Rebel44]

I think you and Ackmajinafuck need to play Starcraft. That's how I learned the difference between depleted Uranium rounds and nukes, back in 5th grade.

+1

 

[JSt0rm]

depleted uranium effects on children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2pJeSr1qo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

The half life of this stuff is 4.5 billion years Iraq will be dealing with the effects of this stuff forever because it doesn't go away.

I wouldn't think we actually need to use it to kill some brown people with no armor or tanks to speak of do you?

 

[William Gaatjes]

That has long been true, but the relative freedoms that exist in Iran cannot be credited to the current leadership. They exist in spite of them because that's how Iran has been for quite some time.

I have no doubt, that moderate and more liberal way of life are being oppressed. But perhaps Obama can make a change. I do not know why , but i sometimes get the impression that Ahmadinejad himself has a weakness... It is just a thought, maybe i am wrong.
A friend who has some family history in Iran mentioned the way Ahmadinejad came to power.

LL, that's reaching. You might as well say we use chemical weapons because some petroleum products are toxic. Iranians have good qualities as a people, but Imadinnerjacket is bloody insane. If he actually were in charge and not some whackjob mouthpiece I'd say he was a real danger. As it is, he's just nuts.

LL ? That does not compute...
However, do not get the wrong idea. I fully agree Iranians are people like everybody else. First impressions do not mean anything to me. Anyway, the difficulties of everyday life can be found in every human being. That is for me the prove that no man or woman or child is any less or more then any other.

 

[StageLeft]

Ahmadinejad isn't that bright. I would imagine he is referring to depleted uranium use in Iraq and simply doesn't understand the difference between that and an atomic bomb or a dirty bomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

He understands the difference. It's his people that don't. The guy is not stupid. He says what appear like stupid things but only because his audience is ignorant/stupid and his statements serve a purpose. Not all Iranians, but obviously an awful lot of them buy his crap as plainly evidenced by his continued support and the fact that in the last election he seems to only have lost by a relatively small margin in the real vote (but through dictatorial precedent pretended that he won anyway, hence still holding power now).

Like any good dictatorial leader a key part of his governance relies on demonizing others. His peons respond by gathering around him against this external thread. Chavez does it, he does it, politicians in the US do it, too. It's human nature to try and human nature to take the bait.

 

[William Gaatjes]

depleted uranium effects on children

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_2pJeSr1qo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depleted_uranium

The half life of this stuff is 4.5 billion years Iraq will be dealing with the effects of this stuff forever because it doesn't go away.

I wouldn't think we actually need to use it to kill some brown people with no armor or tanks to speak of do you?

Well, there has been chemical gases used by Saddam and other factions( on Kurds for example). There is DU dust going around.
It is not that strange all these birth defects happen in the middle east.
But i have to stress that most of this is because of the use of chemical weapons and possible biological weapons by Saddam Hussein and his people. If you wish to blame the west and the former USSR on something, ask yourself where Saddam Hussein got all these awful weapons from.

Some of the pictures shown is about : Harlequin Ichthyosis.
It is not really sure what is the cause. Some conspiracy idiots actually think that these children show remanent experimenting by reptile aliens. Some religious idiots think the mother got knocked up by a demon.
It is a premature hardening of the skin, the skin is brittle and to tight meaning it ruptures and splits on movement. Imagine heaving no skin and you are still wearing clothes while sitting on a chair. This really is a horrible and extremely painful disease. I cannot even imagine how incredibly painful this is.

The true cause is not really sure. Genetic modification, yes but what is the cause ? Is it just a genetic flaw already present but needs another trigger ? This disease seems to be around for hundreds of years, possibly fueling the religious stories about demons. It was quite common in the old days to see a birth defect as an demon influence.

There are cases existent where children where massaged with a cream containing the missing ABCA12 protein have no more problems and live a normal life. You would not recognize them from any other child or adolescent until they run out of protein cream.

http://www.medic8.com/genetics/harlequin-ichthyosis.htm

http://www.ispub.com/journal/the_in...equin_fetus_with_psoriasis_in_his_family.html

http://www.birminghampost.net/news/.../nelly-is-a-real-diamond-girl-65233-20886612/

 

[nick1985]

To what extent can we say Anmadinejad is not correct given the the US overuse of depleted Uranium weapons in Iraq, during Gulf war one and two?

Sometimes the truth hurts and can't be denied out of hand. Even when a total wack job nut is accidentally correct, thus making US denial more internally plausible but not logically more internally or externally defensible.

Holy shit are you retarded?