Zenmervolt
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angminas
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Welcome to life. What do you think, if you put good software in place, people will suddenly become enlightened and use it nicely? Like they do with other forms of power? Keeping the place spare and clunky keeps out a lot of trolls and helps the site focus on people and information rather than expletive-laced arguments about whether bouncy sigs are NSFW. It's like a cover charge. I have no idea if that thought is actually behind any of the workings, but I think it's valid nonetheless.
SagaLore
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- Dec 18, 2001
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If you really want to know why we're using fusetalk, it really has most to do with the fact that one of the developers for anandtech also works or worked for fusetalk. So they got a really good deal on the license.
This latest version is quite stable. I remember the horrific JRUN errors of the past...
This latest version is quite stable. I remember the horrific JRUN errors of the past...
This is a community driven website. Unless the mods can convince Anand to sink money into hiring a developer to write some software in PHP, it's unlikely to happen. The only way I can imagine him doing so would be if it could guarantee a strong userbase (which is possible, but again, unlikely).
Overall, I really don't see what the problem is. The search instructions need to be re-written (search title and body is supposed to be search title and NOT body, or something). Other than that, what's the problem?
- Jun 10, 2004
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I actually don't mind the forum software. It does what it needs to, and while it may not be the most efficient or pretty looking package its good enough. I also like that there AREN'T embedded images. They're GAY when idiots link shock/NSFW/morbid/etc images.
TallBill
Lifer
- Apr 29, 2001
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Originally posted by: n7
Honestly, i hate Fusetalk.
But i like AT too much to let that stop me from posting here.
And z0mg, search is a horrible joke.
Not to mention how it's awesome how older threads i've made all completely cease to exist
I've had a few informational threads vanish as well. Sucks when they still held knowledge that I liked to read every once in a while.
i like the asthetics of this place, but yeah there are better forum software
i happen to like how the finalgear forums work, where you can post and edit posts without reloading the pages, embedd youtube and google video footage, automagically resize embedded images, it keeps quoting down to 1 so that if you quote someone who already quoted someone else in their post, that first quote gets omitted....stops it getting daft like it does here with monumentally big nested quotes.
one of the best features imo is the spoiler text function, it hides spoilers but gives you the oppertunity to activate the text if you wish....that way its definately your fault for ruining a film or something
that and the ability to ignore users posts....if theres someone who just runs their mouth all the time, you put em on ignore..you never hear a word from them again
PM's is another good one, you get a pop up telling you you have a PM then you can chose to read it or not, then chose to either go straight to your inbox in the current window or open a new window.
i think its great, and apparently its basically stock with only very light modifcation.
they use vBulletin V3.6.5
oh yeah the member base there isnt as large as here, so i have no idea how good it would be trying to cater for such a big load.
I like how clean and professional the forum looks. No embedded images is a plus. The search is okay if you remember the title of the thread. What I would like is the ability to search within a thread that has hundreds of replies and look for posts with a certain string of text or by a particular user.
And it would be kinda nifty if the 'View Related Topics' feature worked But I guess that is related to the magical search function.
And it would be kinda nifty if the 'View Related Topics' feature worked
But I guess that is related to the magical search function.
My thoughts exactly... There is no way someone used the search function and never had a problem with it... The only search function I can think of as bad as this one is the one from DeviantART, which basically only shows threads which are 30 weeks old+... Very lame
i rather like the forum software. i admit the search sucks but the end result of not allowing (except for the infamous CSS hack) embedded images and especially gifs makes the forum look more professional and clean.
I like the look of this forum, but this look could be reproduced with any forum software. Lack of embedded images is a good thing.
The bad things are, inability to use correct linking codes (already mentioned), the search functionality (already mentioned) and my personal pet peeve, the horrific quote function that allows for quote pyramids. God, dear god, do I ever hate that.
My minor list of changes would be this:
- Modify the new/old thread indicator so you can tell what is new per refresh
- Change the PM interface so that messages are easier to track and give a better limit
- Fix all the wasted dead space (the search category bar / rss feed line, the space above the top button bar, that left menu bar with the redundant search bar)
- Modify signatures so that format code doesn't count towards length of sig.
- Add a spoiler function, to allow people to discuss a show or movie and add spoilers without adding ridiculous ghetto space to their post.
Bah.
The bad things are, inability to use correct linking codes (already mentioned), the search functionality (already mentioned) and my personal pet peeve, the horrific quote function that allows for quote pyramids. God, dear god, do I ever hate that.
My minor list of changes would be this:
- Modify the new/old thread indicator so you can tell what is new per refresh
- Change the PM interface so that messages are easier to track and give a better limit
- Fix all the wasted dead space (the search category bar / rss feed line, the space above the top button bar, that left menu bar with the redundant search bar)
- Modify signatures so that format code doesn't count towards length of sig.
- Add a spoiler function, to allow people to discuss a show or movie and add spoilers without adding ridiculous ghetto space to their post.
Bah.
pontifex
Lifer
- Dec 5, 2000
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the embedded images thing has been mentioned many times before.
you see the crap that people post, do you really want to see it pop up in your face without warning? they said its to keep the site friendly or work safe.
it would also eat up more bandwidth and take longer to load.
Didn't one of the mods say that there is indeed work being done to fix the search function? Other than that, I have no problems with Fusetalk. I actually like the fact that there aren't custom avatars or that embedded pics aren't allowed, because it allows you to focus more on the content of posts rather than the distracting avatars/sigs that some people have (especially some animated GIFs).
- Oct 28, 1999
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Other than the dead and beaten search function, my only bitch is sometimes when I add a url with the "easy link button" it slaps the link at the beginning of my message post instead of where my cursor last was. Then I have to cut and paste it back at the end of my post.
And yes...embedded images are a horrible horrible idea. That's probably one thing that keeps me at this place over others.
And yes...embedded images are a horrible horrible idea. That's probably one thing that keeps me at this place over others.
dullard
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Is there a financial/personal reason to use Fusetalk. I thought Anandtech got it free initially as a guinea pig website. Then as a favor back, we keep using it. But I could definately be wrong.
Lets try the Advanced Search for that thread. I'll use the default settings (searching title and body, for current messages, in all forums):
[*]I tried "tech forum". Nope, nothing related to this thread.
[*]I tried "worst software". Again, nothing related to this thread.
That is the problem with the search feature. It just can't find anything you are specifically looking for. It can't even find a thread on the front page of a forum.
Yes, I know if you change the default from "title and body" to "title and summary", it'll find this thread. But the default settings should work. If all they did was switch the default settings, we'd be much happier. However, I could still give a list of a dozen other flawed areas in the search.
I too often have that problem with it linking to the wrong spot in the post. About 30% of the time the link is where the cursor is, 70% of the time it puts the link at the beginning. I just wish I could figure out why.
You posted that in a thread titled "Why is a tech forum using some of the worst software available?"
Lets try the Advanced Search for that thread. I'll use the default settings (searching title and body, for current messages, in all forums):
[*]I tried "tech forum". Nope, nothing related to this thread.
[*]I tried "worst software". Again, nothing related to this thread.
That is the problem with the search feature. It just can't find anything you are specifically looking for. It can't even find a thread on the front page of a forum.
Yes, I know if you change the default from "title and body" to "title and summary", it'll find this thread. But the default settings should work. If all they did was switch the default settings, we'd be much happier. However, I could still give a list of a dozen other flawed areas in the search.
I agree on both counts. Embedded images suck. If you want an image, use one of many image storing websites and link us there. Try going to a site with images on dial-up or when your internet connection is bogged down to nothing and you need tech support to fix it. It takes 10 minutes to load a page. Then try Anandtech, bingo 10 seconds maximum. Or try going to a site with embedded images at work (in a company that filters or blocks those things); that is just not a pleasant experience at all. There is no need for embedded images, it is ripe with possible problems, and it harms the users.
I too often have that problem with it linking to the wrong spot in the post. About 30% of the time the link is where the cursor is, 70% of the time it puts the link at the beginning. I just wish I could figure out why.
The lack of an ability to use embedded images in posts, avitars, and sigs is the main reason I post here.
Theres no way I would post during work if people could just embed pictures of goatse at will.
Theres no way I would post during work if people could just embed pictures of goatse at will.
BrokenVisage
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