why is 0 after 9 on most keyboards ?
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Red Squirrel
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I always wondered that.
And who's the bright one who decided to make the numpad semi reversed, why 7 8 9 4 5 6 1 2 3 and why not 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 or even better, why not 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9?
And who's the bright one who decided to make the numpad semi reversed, why 7 8 9 4 5 6 1 2 3 and why not 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 or even better, why not 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9?
Bateluer
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QWERTY style key boards are a hold over from the days of type writers and were originally designed to slow typists down because the hammers were getting stuck on the type writers. The typists were typing too fast.
It may be a hold over, but only a handful of people wish to leave how to type all over again. Those that do, likely already bought DVORAK keyboards.
It may be a hold over, but only a handful of people wish to leave how to type all over again. Those that do, likely already bought DVORAK keyboards.
MoPHo
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I disagree. Seems more natural to me to type 100 in by putting the left number in first and then going to the right to put in the two 0s. Not the same with typing words, I know. If it was the other way around, I'm sure we'd be accustomed to doing it in reverse. Just what popped into my head when I read the thread.
FelixDeCat
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Well if this is a keyboard rant thread heres mine:
- I type so much that I crush the soft tissues in my fingers, I now have to use rubber finger protectors (with self cut ventilation holes) just to get in a full days worth of work and/or surfing. I also like to play an old DOS game that requires a lot of typing. The most comfortable keyboard I have found is the MS Wireless keyboard 3000. The keys are mostly soft to the touch with smoothed edges.
- Most keyboards being designed today are those crappy compact keyboards. I cant STAND my insert, home and delete keys to be out of place...and NO I will not relearn how to use them after nearly two decades of use.
- As mentioned above I like to play an old dos game that is a business simulation based on the the stock market, that I can manipulate to suit my needs. I use the pause button a lot, but now they have seen fit to place this worthless function lock button in place of scroll lock (now combined with the pause / break key.) Now I have to turn off the function lock, hit pause, do what I want to do, reengage the function lock and then unpause the program. DOH!!!
- Oh yeah, I want my keyboard straight, not shaped like a damn elongated "u".
/rant
- I type so much that I crush the soft tissues in my fingers, I now have to use rubber finger protectors (with self cut ventilation holes) just to get in a full days worth of work and/or surfing. I also like to play an old DOS game that requires a lot of typing. The most comfortable keyboard I have found is the MS Wireless keyboard 3000. The keys are mostly soft to the touch with smoothed edges.
- Most keyboards being designed today are those crappy compact keyboards. I cant STAND my insert, home and delete keys to be out of place...and NO I will not relearn how to use them after nearly two decades of use.
- As mentioned above I like to play an old dos game that is a business simulation based on the the stock market, that I can manipulate to suit my needs. I use the pause button a lot, but now they have seen fit to place this worthless function lock button in place of scroll lock (now combined with the pause / break key.) Now I have to turn off the function lock, hit pause, do what I want to do, reengage the function lock and then unpause the program. DOH!!!
- Oh yeah, I want my keyboard straight, not shaped like a damn elongated "u".
/rant
Nik
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Zenmervolt
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I dislike how the keyboard is not centered... The small batch of "edit" keys (home insert etc.) and the numpad take too much space on the right. =D
It's all a matter of tradition and what people are used to.
It's all a matter of tradition and what people are used to.
Bateluer
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Having an ergonomic keyboard would likely make it easier to type for you.
Granted, it took me about a week to get used to an ergo 'wave' style keyboard, but there's no way in hell I'd ever go back to a straight keyboard.
I had a similar discussion with my dad once. He can't stand ergo keyboard either, and has been using keyboard for decades as well, though, he's more of 'hunt and peck' typist. Electrical engineer. Apparently, his wrists have been deformed from decades of use on straight, non-ergo keyboards, which is why it's so difficult for him to adjust. He claims his doctor told him this, though he's been known to blow smoke.
Edit - The basic layout of the QWERTY keyboard isn't going to change because of an ATOT rant. Hell, I work with people who bitched about Microsoft renaming 'My Computer' in XP to simply 'Computer' in Vista. You're not going to convince the millions of people in the US alone that use QWERTY keyboards daily to change their keyboard layout.
If you wish, you can remap the keys on your keyboard any way you wish, digitally or mechanically, depending on the keyboard.
FelixDeCat
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Originally posted by: Bateluer
Having an ergonomic keyboard would likely make it easier to type for you.
Granted, it took me about a week to get used to an ergo 'wave' style keyboard, but there's no way in hell I'd ever go back to a straight keyboard.
I had a similar discussion with my dad once. He can't stand ergo keyboard either, and has been using keyboard for decades as well, though, he's more of 'hunt and peck' typist. Electrical engineer. Apparently, his wrists have been deformed from decades of use on straight, non-ergo keyboards, which is why it's so difficult for him to adjust. He claims his doctor told him this, though he's been known to blow smoke.
Thankfully, the MS wireless 3000 is only a slightly warped "u", nothing like that MS natural keyboard. There is nothing natural about that keyboard.
First they tried to kill off the floppy, now this!
Arcadio
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I don't know if anyone said it already, but when you type properly, your left pinky finger is the first finger on any row (keys z, a, and q). So it becomes simpler when you type the number 1 with that finger, since it is the first finger on the row.
silverpig
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Welcome to the world of right handed keyboards.
You can get left handed keyboards where that stuff is on the left side of the QWERTY.
Splitting it is stupid. Would you really use the arrow keys and the delete button with your left hand and the numpad with your right hand?
mrSHEiK124
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Left handed keyboards? Where?!
Come to think of it, I'm too used to it to try and work with those keys on the left. Oh well.
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