Why In the Hell Do Mobos still have more than Two PCI slots

[Zepper]

Modem/fax card, SCSI host adapter, TV tuner, video capture card, etc. etc. Don't you have better things to do than p*ss and moan, Mr. C?
.bh.

 

[ribbon13]

Make your own motherboard.

 

[CalvinHobbs]

playing devil's advocate...nobody here ever the problem when one pci card is obstructing one you wanna put just below it...i mean the pci slots are so close that at times you have to leave one pci slot free in between two cards so that the cards can be inserted...and also allow better ventilation

 

[daniel49]

hmmm now I see why they call you Mr Controversial

 

[MrControversial]

Originally posted by: airfoil
I'm sure most folks would want room for expansion, and given the fact that that PCI-E is relatively new, everyone would have a bunch of PCI cards they'd want to carry over to the rig that has PCI-E. I'm certainly one of those folks.

Looks like M-ATX will fir the bill perfectly for you.

That's not the point. Are there any single-slot PCIe cards out there? I don't know of any. Yet there's always a PCI port right next to it even though it won't be used. If you're going to use a PCI videocard, then why get an SLI or PCIe board? It still doesn't make sense to me. All PCI slots should either be usable or removed completely. Face it, if you have a two slotter card, then there's no reason to put a PCI next to it because it won't get used.

 

[MrControversial]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
Make your own motherboard.

I will. It will be the Asus "Mr_Controversial" Edition and it will have two SLI slots, one PCI slot and cost $499.

 

[MrControversial]

Originally posted by: vetteguy
This thread is about as intelligent as the "nVidia sucks because their 5500 series sucks" thread.

Lemme guess, you graduated from public (government) schools? Your reading comprehension sucks squirrel nuts.

 

[Baked]

1 PCI is left empty by default to give some breathing room for video card. Then, video capture card, dual sound cards, IDE and/or SATA controller, extra NIC. Yeah, I wish they put more PCI slots in there. I rather have separate PCI components than having everything integrated into the mobo.

 

[MrControversial]

Originally posted by: Zepper
Modem/fax card, SCSI host adapter, TV tuner, video capture card, etc. etc. Don't you have better things to do than p*ss and moan, Mr. C?
.bh.

Etc, etc, my ass. Read the topic again. I'm not speaking out against PCI ports in general, I'm just talking about the ones you can't use. Try putting all of the stuff you listed on this board:

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp...-283-05.jpg&CurImage=13-128-283-02.jpg

You basically can only use one PCI port (the last one) because the middle one is blocked by the PCIe card. If that's the case, why not just remove it. It seems wasteful to me and that's my point.

 

[ribbon13]

Less bus connectors, more PCB for components?

I want a legacy free motherboard. No SATA, No IDE, No Floppy, No parallel. No rs-232, no ps/2 mouse. PS/2 keyboard still rocks though. Give it FW800, USB2, Gigabit, 802.11g, and a really nice SAS controller. And something to replace SoundStorm w/ 7.1 and digital out. That would kick royal. Expansion layout:

PCIe x16
empty
PCIe x16
empty
PCIe x4 or x8
PCI-X 64-bit/133Mhz (can be downclocked for PCI/slower cards)

 

[batmanuel]

Originally posted by: MrControversial

Originally posted by: airfoil
I'm sure most folks would want room for expansion, and given the fact that that PCI-E is relatively new, everyone would have a bunch of PCI cards they'd want to carry over to the rig that has PCI-E. I'm certainly one of those folks.

Looks like M-ATX will fir the bill perfectly for you.

That's not the point. Are there any single-slot PCIe cards out there? I don't know of any.

Practically every PCIe 6600GT cards out there are single slot. Most of the PCIe 6800GTs are too. And those are just the nVidia SLI capable cards. Let's not forget the X800XLs. You can even get an X850 Pro in single slot.

Just being the devil's advocate, here.

 

[batmanuel]

Originally posted by: MrControversial

Originally posted by: Zepper
Modem/fax card, SCSI host adapter, TV tuner, video capture card, etc. etc. Don't you have better things to do than p*ss and moan, Mr. C?
.bh.

Etc, etc, my ass. Read the topic again. I'm not speaking out against PCI ports in general, I'm just talking about the ones you can't use. Try putting all of the stuff you listed on this board:

http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp...-283-05.jpg&CurImage=13-128-283-02.jpg

You basically can only use one PCI port (the last one) because the middle one is blocked by the PCIe card. If that's the case, why not just remove it. It seems wasteful to me and that's my point.

Now I have to agree that is not a great layout, at the moment. It looks like they used a NF4 SLI version as the basis of that board and then changed the top x16 to a x1. Sucks if you are using a dual slot x16 card and have lots of PCI cards.

On the other hand, if you are going to add an x1 PCIe soundcard and PVR card six months from now, the layout is very nice as it keeps the x1 slots from being blocked by the graphics card. All in all, it seems like the Gigabyte engineers sacrificed some short term capability on the board in exchange for long term upgrade potential. So judging how good the layout is really comes down to what you plan to do with this board.

 

[DanDaMan315]

Hmm I only use 1 of my PCI slots, for my sound card.

 

[elecrzy]

Hey controversial, I see what you're talking about. You have to look at it this way though. Not everyone has ax8x0 or 6x00 series video card. The majority of video cards are still single-slot solutions. Although, I don't use the pci slot next to the video card myself.

 

Uh, if you actually search for good gaming cards, the great ones take only one slot, even with a 6800U chip. (Not great cooling though) And you can replace the heatsink and bracket for a shorter one. Very simple solution. And I like having alot of PCI slots. I wouldn't mind getting PCI-X either.

Then I could load an army of RAID controllers on my server...

 

[Thegonagle]

Uh, so you can install more than two PCI cards? Like a nice sound card, a wireless card, and, say, a faxmodem or SCSI card or TV tuner or Firewire or. . . This is silly!

 

[TomKazansky]

if you think there's too much pci slots on ur mobo, give some of them to me, i'd be more than glad to have them.

and don't tell other people to stfu, they have things to fill up their slots, and you don't.

 

[CalvinHobbs]

<lock> lock it </lock>

 

[Chaotic42]

Wait, I'm sitting here cursing my board for not having enough PCI slots, and you're complaining about having too many? Jeebus.

 

[TomKazansky]

Originally posted by: calvinHobbs
<lock> lock it </lock>

seriously

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm in the opposite boat. I can't believe that most mobos don't include a full compliment of PCI slots. My current board has six of them. I miss the AT boards, those cases had *eight* slots in them, but ATX only have room for seven. (Usually one AGP and six PCI - if you're lucky.)

 

[zerocool84]

ok how about they make removable pci slots just for u then......dont freakin buy a dual slot video card if ur going to complain then

 

[imported_Phil]

Originally posted by: MrControversial

Are there any single-slot PCIe cards out there? I don't know of any.

You're seriously telling me that you think all PCIe cards on the market are dual-slot solutions?

Sigh.

I have a GeForce FX 5700 PCIe next to me, direct from nVIDIA.

Do your research before throwing your toys out of the pram, noob.

 

[fuzzynavel]

Originally posted by: MrControversial

Originally posted by: Sunbird
Cause some people are not you and have more than 2 PCI cards???

Just because you didn't research the motherboard well and find out if it had a good layout, don't mean they all should just have 2 PCI slots.

Go moan to Chaintech.

Oh please, STFU, I'm pretty damn satisfied with my board because I don't need to use more than one PCI slot. This isn't a bitch about why my mobo sucks, I'm just wondering why PCIe motherboards need more than two PCI slots when about half are unusable in the first place. My question is why don't they just remove the PCI slot if the videocard is going to end up obstructing it in the first place?

I am sorry to say this but I am sure there are still people who use PCI (Not PCIE) graphics cards...hell I still have a couple....don't use them though....but for people who don't need raw power I.e people who just do word processing, basic office apps and internet... the PCI slot is a very cheap alternative....

But you are right....the Majority of mainstream (not Business users) users who are early adopters of PCIE have bought their boards to speed up the graphics...so you have a point about having a PCI slot so close to a PCIE slot....But correct me if I am wrong.....there are probably single slot PCIE graphics solutions out there so the mobo manufacturers have to cater for all tastes......plus it looks better on a spec sheet if there is a longer list of features.....especially to someone who doesn't know much about the computer architecture....Probably just a marketing thing

 

[LED]

It makes no sense.

This thread makes no sense...good luck in finding all the all the cards listed above and even if you could non would run any faster :roll: