Why Illegals will get everything they want

[RichardE]

Illegal Immigrants will get everything they are lobbying for solely because they are politcally active. Whereas the majoirty of people against it sit on there ass, saying "ugh..this is bad because of (insert talking point here)", Illegals take to the streets, protesting, making there voice heard.

Your friendly politicians see this, and realise all the votes he can have, from an obviously politically active demographic and will push through tooth and nail for them to get everything they wish. Why? Because if illegals are protesting right now, when they can't vote...if they are politcally active without any rights, how will they reward the guy who gives it to them?

It is sad, that illegals, people who do not have most of the rights you do, are more politically active in your country.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: RichardE
"Only when the last tree is dead, the last river damned and the last field paved over - will we realize that we can't eat money."

Awesome sig :thumbsup:

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: RichardE
It is sad, that illegals, people who do not have most of the rights you do, are more politically active in your country.

Taking to the streets and protesting is about the only way they can be politically active. And drawing the conclusion that *if* they get their way, they will continue to be politically active... I think that is wrong. I recall hearing that only 3% of the latino population voted in the last election, which may or may not be accurate, but realize that political activism now does not equate to continued activism once immediate goals are achieved.

 

[EatSpam]

Check out NumbersUSA, for example. Proponents of reduced immigration and the American middle class have other means at their disposal.

 

[CessnaFlyer]

As an article in Human Events pointed out, political demonstrations with tens of thousands of people in the streets is new to the USA but not new in Latin America!

Americans traditionally write letters, make phone calls, have debates and vote to influence politics.

In Central and South America, the people mass in the streets, with the not so subtle threat of violence imminent.

This is the fruit of decades of American politicians being bought off by business and agricultural employers seeking cheap labor.

How do you like the "Latinization" of American culture by the unassimilated millions of illegal immigrants we've encouraged?

Well, it doesn't matter if you don't like it. Get used to it.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: CessnaFlyer
As an article in Human Events pointed out, political demonstrations with tens of thousands of people in the streets is new to the USA but not new in Latin America!

What are you talking about? There were 100s of thousands of people protesting wars for decades, there were riots and protests with 10's of thousands of people 200 years ago in NYC. :roll:

 

[homercles337]

Protest IS patriotism. If they are causing change from protest more power to them. Just goes to show how complacent the left has become with all the fecal matter running out of the WH and still no action.

 

[fitzov]

We don't really need to protest--the law is already in place but needs to be enforced which makes it an executive branch issue.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: homercles337
Protest IS patriotism. If they are causing change from protest more power to them. Just goes to show how complacent the left has become with all the fecal matter running out of the WH and still no action.

Problem is a million people can gather and if they are ignored it kinda kills the spirit.

There is a big problem with that bush and friends could care less if 200k people were at his doorstep. The media will make quick mention (and that is rare) and go back to ignoring it.

The only real extended coverage you saw about this last bunch of rallys was mainly to bash them for waving mexican flags, on monday there were a few things about it but they used american flags, ho hum.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: homercles337
Protest IS patriotism. If they are causing change from protest more power to them. Just goes to show how complacent the left has become with all the fecal matter running out of the WH and still no action.

It doesn't make sense though, that a group of people who have no legal rights in our country would be able to come here and dictate how our laws work. I am all for protest, but the viewpoint expressed is not necessarily the most sensible.

 

[phantom309]

Originally posted by: homercles337
Protest IS patriotism. If they are causing change from protest more power to them. Just goes to show how complacent the left has become with all the fecal matter running out of the WH and still no action.

If they were true patriots they would be back in their own country flooding the streets and demanding change there.

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: homercles337
Protest IS patriotism. If they are causing change from protest more power to them. Just goes to show how complacent the left has become with all the fecal matter running out of the WH and still no action.

It doesn't make sense though, that a group of people who have no legal rights in our country would be able to come here and dictate how our laws work. I am all for protest, but the viewpoint expressed is not necessarily the most sensible.

bingo..

thats like an MCSE telling an ASE certified mechanic how to do his job

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: jrenz

Originally posted by: homercles337
Protest IS patriotism. If they are causing change from protest more power to them. Just goes to show how complacent the left has become with all the fecal matter running out of the WH and still no action.

It doesn't make sense though, that a group of people who have no legal rights in our country would be able to come here and dictate how our laws work. I am all for protest, but the viewpoint expressed is not necessarily the most sensible.

bingo..

thats like an MCSE telling an ASE certified mechanic how to do his job

<Kramer> Uh ye...yeaaahh... </Kramer>

 

[homercles337]

@steeple, yes, i agree the media is large part of the problem is the out of control hubris of this administration. Cant say that i saw much coverage about mexican flags, but i dont watch much TV.

@jrenz, all of our ancestors were illegal at some point. Just because the rich, white male made the laws does not mean they "make sense." I dont know if the viewpoint makes sense, its just encouraging that protest can still lead to change. Which is my point.

 

[techs]

Yeah right. A bunch of protesters in the streets with no vote and little money are going to influence Congress?
For that you need corporate donations and Jack Abrahamoff.

 

[jrenz]

@jrenz, all of our ancestors were illegal at some point. Just because the rich, white male made the laws does not mean they "make sense." I dont know if the viewpoint makes sense, its just encouraging that protest can still lead to change. Which is my point.

I understand your point, and I'm not disputing it, I'm just saying that just because one side of an issue is yelling louder than the other side, doesn't necessarily mean they are right.

 

[jrenz]

Originally posted by: techs
Yeah right. A bunch of protesters in the streets with no vote and little money are going to influence Congress?
For that you need corporate donations and Jack Abrahamoff.

Why can't you post in any thread without making some stupid completely-off-topic jab?

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: CessnaFlyer
In Central and South America, the people mass in the streets, with the not so subtle threat of violence imminent.

Limbaugh said this exact same thing. Fallen sundials and all that.

This is the fruit of decades of American politicians being bought off by business and agricultural employers seeking cheap labor.

Don't forget the now-discredited mantra of Globalization(tm).

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: homercles337
@jrenz, all of our ancestors were illegal at some point. Just because the rich, white male made the laws does not mean they "make sense." I dont know if the viewpoint makes sense, its just encouraging that protest can still lead to change. Which is my point.

But in this case the law DOES make sense, regardless of who penned it. The US, like ANY other country, has the inherent right to restrict its borders, regardless of essentially romantic notions to the contrary. What made other mass migrations to the US easier was that they were limited. What's happening on the southern border is very different. Mexican's (mostly) are coming in huge waves that show no sign of abbatting. This equates to millions of people who not only don't have time to assimilate, but in all too many cases show no urge to.

To think that this condition won't have a huge impact on American culture, in both the long and short terms, is thinking with your heart, not your head.

 

[Genx87]

Dont forget the other reasons.

1. Anybody who counters their sense of entitlement will be labeled a rascist
2. Anybody who doesnt bend over backwards for them will be labeled insensitive.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Dont forget the other reasons.

1. Anybody who counters their sense of entitlement will be labeled a rascist
2. Anybody who doesnt bend over backwards for them will be labeled insensitive.

Indeed.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Dont forget the other reasons.

1. Anybody who counters their sense of entitlement will be labeled a rascist
2. Anybody who doesnt bend over backwards for them will be labeled insensitive.

Of course you're bestest buddies, your religious icons, the corporations of America are in the forefront of ALLOWING illegal, legal, heck any kind of immigrant they can put to work in violation of labor laws, minimum wage, etc.
So come out and say it. You are really supporting illegal immigration.
HA.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: Genx87
Dont forget the other reasons.

1. Anybody who counters their sense of entitlement will be labeled a rascist
2. Anybody who doesnt bend over backwards for them will be labeled insensitive.

Of course you're bestest buddies, your religious icons, the corporations of America are in the forefront of ALLOWING illegal, legal, heck any kind of immigrant they can put to work in violation of labor laws, minimum wage, etc.
So come out and say it. You are really supporting illegal immigration.
HA.

Can you formulate a msg or idea that is based in reality or have you finally gone off the deep end?

That is one of the worst displays of thought process and logic I have seen in quite some time.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Dont forget the other reasons.

1. Anybody who counters their sense of entitlement will be labeled a rascist
2. Anybody who doesnt bend over backwards for them will be labeled insensitive.

So start doing something about it? Orr we could sit back on a message board complaining, because that works as well.

 

[Genx87]

Originally posted by: RichardE

Originally posted by: Genx87
Dont forget the other reasons.

1. Anybody who counters their sense of entitlement will be labeled a rascist
2. Anybody who doesnt bend over backwards for them will be labeled insensitive.

So start doing something about it? Orr we could sit back on a message board complaining, because that works as well.

What leads you to believe I am not doing something about it?