Why I think the iPad is better than Android

[alkemyst]

Sorry but sales figures do not support your theory.
It may be a personal opinion of yours but its not the consensus.
People chose the better tablet with their wallet.

People choose cheap and free.

 

[Midwayman]

I hope Apple stops ripping us off on the storage upgrades or at least kills the 16GB model and starts the 32GB model at $330 (stop laughing, I know it won't happen, just saying.)

That would go a long way to getting rid of the worst of my complaints about their pricing. The base memory is always laughably small and then they gouge you for the upgrades on top of already premium price. I agree that they'll never do though. Its kinda like buying a german car. There is the base price and then the real price.

 

[dlock13]

That would go a long way to getting rid of the worst of my complaints about their pricing. The base memory is always laughably small and then they gouge you for the upgrades on top of already premium price. I agree that they'll never do though. Its kinda like buying a german car. There is the base price and then the real price.

The same could be said for Google last year releasing the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 with 8 GB as the starting point. It's ridiculously low for anything. I can understand if you are the most basic user that doesn't need it, but the cost of memory has gone down drastically.

I'm glad Google saw the light at is selling them with 16 GB now. I just hope that only continues to trickle to the next Nexus phone, and then the following year, just bump the space up to 32 as a starter.

I loved having the Galaxy Nexus on VZW with 32 GB of space. It was fantastic not having to worry about storage (don't say anything those with µSD slots).

 

[poofyhairguy]

People chose the more heavily marketed tablet with their wallet.

FIFY

 

[Midwayman]

The same could be said for Google last year releasing the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 with 8 GB as the starting point. It's ridiculously low for anything. I can understand if you are the most basic user that doesn't need it, but the cost of memory has gone down drastically.

The difference is that google was much more reasonable both in starting cost and especially in memory upgrade costs.

 

[desura]

Eh, I definitely get that Apple's memory upgrade pricing is expensive, annoyingly so when the techsaavy among us know what 16gb of storage really costs on the open market.

Which is partially why I've wasted so much time on android tablets. Especially with sd card expansion, you can sometimes be looking at 300 or so in savings.

But...

the main purpose of a tablet is to open up a web browser and read your favorite website. For that, without question, the ipad is significantly better than android tablets.

 

[Red Storm]

the main purpose of a tablet is to open up a web browser and read your favorite website.

According to who? If that was the case we wouldn't have a gazillion apps that all do the same thing: bypass the web browser and giving you a more mobile device optimized experience.

 

[Oyeve]

the main purpose of a tablet is to open up a web browser and read your favorite website. For that, without question, the ipad is significantly better than android tablets.

For you. I for one hate safari in all iterations. And with android I have the option of using several browsers. not what the gestapo tells me to use.

 

[desura]

According to who? If that was the case we wouldn't have a gazillion apps that all do the same thing: bypass the web browser and giving you a more mobile device optimized experience.

All of the 3rd party apps behave similarly to safari for things like pinch to zoom, scroll acceleration, and responsiveness. this is due to the fundamental engineering done in iOS.

 

[desura]

For you. I for one hate safari in all iterations. And with android I have the option of using several browsers. not what the gestapo tells me to use.

Safari is good enough.

I've actually found Chrome on iOS to be surprisingly fast. In many ways, faster than safari.

 

[Red Storm]

All of the 3rd party apps behave similarly to safari for things like pinch to zoom, scroll acceleration, and responsiveness. this is due to the fundamental engineering done in iOS.

But they don't behave like websites, and that's why people pushed for an actual app store after the first iPhone came out. If the web browser was the be all end all function of tablets, they wouldn't need app stores.

 

[PowerYoga]

the main purpose of a tablet is to open up a web browser and read your favorite website.

No grandpa.

And safari is probably the worst browser out there right now.

 

[desura]

But they don't behave like websites, and that's why people pushed for an actual app store after the first iPhone came out. If the web browser was the be all end all function of tablets, they wouldn't need app stores.

the apps I believe use the same rendering engine across the board.

anyways, I also use the read it later "pocket" app and iOS is again much better for pocket than android.

 

[desura]

Ah, found the article

http://appleinsider.com/articles/11..._ui_lag_occurs_more_often_in_android_than_ios

But, in spite of the improvements, Munn believes the Android user interface "will never be completely smooth because of the design constraints" that limit UI rendering to the main thread of an app with normal priority.

"Even with a Galaxy Nexus, or the quad-core EeePad Transformer Prime, there is no way to guarantee a smooth frame rate if these two design constraints remain true," he said. "It’s telling that it takes the power of a Galaxy Nexus to approach the smoothness of a three year old iPhone."

According to Munn, the reason behind the design change is that the original Android prototype didn't have a touchscreen, as it was meant to be a BlackBerry competitor. As such, Android's architecture is meant to support a keyboard and trackball. Munn further claimed that after the original iPhone arrived in 2007, Google rushed to complete Android, but "it was too late to rewrite the UI framework."

 

[Puddle Jumper]

the apps I believe use the same rendering engine across the board.

anyways, I also use the read it later "pocket" app and iOS is again much better for pocket than android.

Nope, HTML5 based apps don't even use the safe engine as safari, UIWebViews are restricted to an inferior javascript engine that can potentially have a significant impact on performance.

Ah, found the article

http://appleinsider.com/articles/11..._ui_lag_occurs_more_often_in_android_than_ios

That's a terrible example, the terrible performance on the Transformer Prime and Infinity has nothing to do with Android and everything to do with Asus using substandard NAND.

That article was debunked years ago.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

No grandpa.

And safari is probably the worst browser out there right now.

WTF I beg to differ. Chrome is probably the worst browser out there. It's laggy as hell. Then comes Firefox, the AOSP Browser, and then Dolphin Browser which is the best IMO.

I'd put Safari above AOSP browser and possibly Dolphin. Sometimes dolphin renders incorrectly, but I've never had a rendering issue on Safari on my iPhone 5.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Safari is an awful desktop browser but it's pretty good on the iPad. The only browser I use on Android anymore is Naked Browser. Chrome is pretty laggy as you said.



And I actually love IE on WP8. Surprisingly good. It's very fast and seems to do a good job of rendering sites properly.

 

[openwheel]

Chrome is silky smooth on my new Nexus 7, so is Safari on iOS. IE is also fantastic on my fiance's Nokia 928. Chrome is not smooth my on Razr M though.

I have to give the nod to Chrome for the integration, overall ease to use and smoothness. My employees can't use Safari to do simple task like entering timesheet and travel vouchers. Safari still has a long way to go, unless you only use it for TMZ or none-work related simple tasks.

 

[dlock13]

Chrome is silky smooth on my new Nexus 7, so is Safari on iOS. IE is also fantastic on my fiance's Nokia 928.

I have to give the nod to Chrome for the integration and overall ease to use.

If you live in an Apple world, then Safari is a fantastic way to go. Sure, you can use Google products, but if you're not jailbroken, it doesn't feel integrated or part of the OS since the only way you can truly open anything in Chrome on iOS is via copying the link or if an app specifically built in the Google Chrome API to attach to it.

The good thing about Google products is that they're usually pretty solid across the board. The reason as to why it's not as good as Safari is because it's still just a WebKit skin if I'm not mistaken. iOS sucks in that regard, but that's a whole different story for a different thread.

Anyway, like you said openwheel, the browsers for each OS are great because they integrate themselves at the OS level instead of on top of it.

 

[MrX8503]

On the desktop I prefer Chrome and then Safari Mac. Working on some of our web projects, none of the other browsers can render or perform as fast as these two browsers.

On my iPhone I use Safari because all the other browsers are gimped.

 

[Tom]

IMHO, until it is opened up to USB (likely, never!), the iPad is only an entertainment device. An Android tablet is capable of real work involving passing material between devices.

It is kind of astounding how difficult getting stuff off of and on to my ipod touch is unless its exactly the stuff Apple thinks is what I need and unless I do it exactly the way they think I need to do it.

 

[dagamer34]

The same could be said for Google last year releasing the Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 with 8 GB as the starting point. It's ridiculously low for anything. I can understand if you are the most basic user that doesn't need it, but the cost of memory has gone down drastically.

I'm glad Google saw the light at is selling them with 16 GB now. I just hope that only continues to trickle to the next Nexus phone, and then the following year, just bump the space up to 32 as a starter.

I loved having the Galaxy Nexus on VZW with 32 GB of space. It was fantastic not having to worry about storage (don't say anything those with µSD slots).

The Nexus 7 (2012) 8GB was never available at a retail store, only online because there was zero retailer margin on that version (the bump from 8-16GB does not cost $50 worth of BOM). So for the average person, the Nexus 7 cost $249, not $199. Plus, no one really recommended the 8GB as that's way too little storage space.

 

[Midwayman]

It is kind of astounding how difficult getting stuff off of and on to my ipod touch is unless its exactly the stuff Apple thinks is what I need and unless I do it exactly the way they think I need to do it.

Yup. Android really does data sharing between apps so much better.