The most interesting point in the interview, in my opinion, was Tyson asking Shapiro why he cared. I find the same issue with Peterson. What is at root in each that causes that difference in perspective. For me personally, it seems like a difference in ego. Tyson, in my opinion, demonstrates a profound sense of comfort in his own skin, a certainty that the world is right, that truth does not need his help. He has a much greater ego presence for a complete lack on my part to have a name for what I am struggling to describe, by the presence of deep humility. He is not inwardly or neurotically impelled to have answers to moral guestions because I think he has not been infected with what I would call Shapiro’s and Peterson’s guilt trip, for lack of a better word.
Truth is always some third way is a sentiment that appeals to me. For and against and resolved as a non issue. Crusaders and people at peace.
What I wish is to have people not tell me who people like P and S are but to describe where they see can see that in their words. I think the two of them do that rather well with regards to people who attack them.