Why I dont play EVE Online Anymore

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shortylickens

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Just out of curiosity were you one of those poor shmucks who got scammed out of billions of credits?

I heard a whole lotta customer stopped playing after that, and not just the ones who were scammed.
 

Arsinek

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if only the combat wasn't such a snooze fest...


Exactly.

That was my problem with the game. It lacks excitement. My experience with pvp was flying around for hours just looking for something to shoot at. And all the pvp seemed to revolve around gates, just jumping over and over and over. The game lacks action. Apparently somewhere there are epic battles going on but after playing the game for a few monthes and still not knowing how to find any fun, I had enough.

Also the controls are rediculous. RTS controls? Really? Clicking in space to move? I dont get to aim my guns?
 

TheVrolok

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Meh, it's easy for an established character (or even a fairly new character with some knowledgeable friends) to make really easy ISK. After that, you play for free .. so when it's boring, just take a break for a bit, come back, character has gotten better, play a bit.. then take another break. I love EVE just because it's so easy to leave when I want, and then come back to when I need a fix.
 

SunnyD

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I actually disagree with this, the game is fun. It is just that I lost interest in it after a while.

I found a niche I was good at, and I enjoyed doing it. But I had other things to do with my time, and I felt it was time to do them.

That's just another way of saying "It's not fun."
 

Martimus

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That's just another way of saying "It's not fun."

That is neither what I said, nor what I meant. It isn't even implied in what I wrote.

Just because you didn't have fun with the game, doesn't mean others can't. It literally is a game that you can do anything. Just like in real life. However, just like in real life, doing what you want to do isn't always easy.
 

JSt0rm

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the game is fun. There is a significant learning curve and after you master that you feel good and fights give you a rush.
 

Cheesetogo

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What's really wonderful here is how closely your experiences in the game seem to parallel real life.
 

SunnyD

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That is neither what I said, nor what I meant. It isn't even implied in what I wrote.

Just because you didn't have fun with the game, doesn't mean others can't. It literally is a game that you can do anything. Just like in real life. However, just like in real life, doing what you want to do isn't always easy.

You said, and I quote, "I just lost interest in it." That right there implies you weren't having fun (anymore). I'm not saying you DIDN'T have fun originally. I'm saying you STOPPED having fun at some point, and found better things to do with your time.

I had fun with the game for a while too. I had a set plan, set out to do it, then I pretty much got there. At that point, I lost interest because it was no longer... FUN. Same feeling I got with WoW when I played it. Same feeling I have with Rift. I can count numerous games where the fun simply wasn't there after a time, and that caused me to lose interest. The two go hand in hand psychologically.

I'm sure if I go back to EVE I could find some way to entertain myself for a little while again. But again, I'll lose interest, and then it won't be fun, again. It's the nature of the beast.

If the MMO treadmill is so bad why do 8/10 people get on it? It's got to be a winning formula because none of them deviate from it.

Purely because of the social aspect of it. Humans are social creatures, but they're too lazy these days to get up off their asses and actually interact with other real people.
 

Ross Ridge

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You said, and I quote, "I just lost interest in it." That right there implies you weren't having fun (anymore). I'm not saying you DIDN'T have fun originally. I'm saying you STOPPED having fun at some point, and found better things to do with your time.

No, that's not what you were saying.
 

JSt0rm

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I think we can all agree that we dont play video games (even ones that we love) for more then say 5 years at the max. We may revisit games we once played but thats different.
 

Red Storm

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I think we can all agree that we dont play video games (even ones that we love) for more then say 5 years at the max. We may revisit games we once played but thats different.

Speak for yourself, I still play Age of Empires II almost every day, and Baldur's Gate II about once a week. :p
 

ibex333

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Just out of curiosity were you one of those poor shmucks who got scammed out of billions of credits?

I heard a whole lotta customer stopped playing after that, and not just the ones who were scammed.

No. I would never allow something like that to happen. I had my Mammoth blown up auto-piloting through hi-sec when I was a noob and lost 250 mil. After that I lost another 250mil by accidentally transferring it to someone instead of my own account back when I was exploiting trial accounts... But that's about it. It hurt pretty bad, but I kept playing for years after that.

What's really wonderful here is how closely your experiences in the game seem to parallel real life.

Yes, that is why EVE is better than any other MMO.

I think that this applies to SP also.

I disagree. With SP, and even MP you are getting endless entertainment for a relatively low amount of money. With MMOs you are getting very finite entertainment for an infinite amount of money. Finite, because it ends as soon as you stop paying. I suppose you can then start talking about cable TV and stuff, but I dont watch TV and I dont pay for cable. ; ) If I was, I'd tell you that at least in case of TV I can watch the Discovery and History channels which do a world of good for my intellect.
 
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ImpulsE69

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Speak for yourself, I still play Age of Empires II almost every day, and Baldur's Gate II about once a week. :p

It's time to move on man... lol

Seriously though, it's a tough call. Yes Eve is much like RL in many aspects. You build yourself up from nothing. Create networks. WORK for your money, build empires. There is crazy depth to this game, and just like real life there are aspects someone won't like, but someone else might love.

For me, I never could understnad how ppl could sit and mine ore. I so hated it...but in order for the game to work..SOMEONE has to do it.

I also found the POS aspect to be tedious and require a huge amount of work. Then, at some point, someone bigger than you comes and crushes it all :) You really feel that pain if you actually worked and put the time in to "build it all".

For those who say it lacked excitement...you just weren't doing what excited you. I really never had a lack of PVP once I went to 0.0. Get in the right corps/alliances and you have PVP 24/7. Sometimes there was so much i actually did need downtime to restock :) PVP is what kept me playing for years. The pure rush that it gave. The satisfaction of getting that kill, the disappointment when you lost your +5's. (oh wait, i never lost those..they are sitting safe in a station somewhere).
 
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roguerower

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I had a blast doing PVP, and I'd get a rush out of it whenever I actually got to kill something. Eventually it just wasn't there anymore and I stopped.

I get my rush from skydiving now. Nothing out there like it :)
 

ichy

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For me the trick to enjoying EVE was to find a way to PvP that didn't require hours of commitment or spending endless time waiting for a fleet/gang to form up. That's why I mostly go the solo route.
 

Kadarin

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I quit because I prioritized enough other things in my life that I no longer have time to devote to EVE. This is a game that you have to invest time and effort into to get satisfaction and enjoyment from.

Every once in a while I reactivate an account or two and see what's going on, but I don't seriously play the game.
 

TheVrolok

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This is a game that you have to invest time and effort into to get satisfaction and enjoyment from.

This is a statement with which I completely disagree. In the beginning, sure, but once you get established, EVE is one of the most hands off MMOs in existence. My work schedule right now is such that some months I have time to play, other months I may not log on more than once or twice a week. Even so, EVE is always ready to be picked up and played. Your character is always progressing, if you're well enough established ISK is not an issue unless your blowing billions a week.. and things don't change rapidly enough for you to be left behind if you don't play for a few weeks.
 

hrbngr2

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I agree w/ TheVrolok in terms of "hands off". I played WoW for over 2 years, and the only was to make progress/level was to spend time online, grinding, doing instances, rolling on items and hoping you get lucky.

I currently have multiple active accounts in Eve, and I can do L4 missions w/2 or 3 of my chars multiboxed to make enough ISK via plexes to play free, but I really don't want to grind that much.

It's nice to just "level" by logging in and updating skill queues/buying skill books, as opposed to logging in and grinding to level. Since, I haven't explored PvP, 0.0 or Market/Trading, the game is still pretty wide-open.

Finally, after reading lots of excerpts on the NC/DRF conflict, my long term goal would be to fly a SC or Titan in similar fleet battles--but that's a pretty long way out.
 
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Although EVE is the best MMO out there, it is still an MMO and suffers from the same issues all other MMOs do - draws you in, wastes your time and money without actually giving anything tangible in return.

welcome to "life"
It's why Solomon wrote, "vanity of vanities, all is vanity".
 
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I quit EVE because I got as far as I could without either sucking up to or becoming a major asshole.

EVE has a very high ratio of assholes to normal people. And they're all adults too. Makes me sad.