Why I can't play any MMORPG.. and why others shouldn't.

brxndxn

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I've only ever really played Shadowbane. I've tried WoW for maybe a total of 10 hours and could not enjoy it. The prospect of running errands for NPCs does not appeal to me. Neither does taking weeks to level a single character. I've seen my brother play it for hours. I also tried Anarchy Online briefly.. but I really only ever got hooked on Shadowbane.

I started playing Shadowbane a month or two after release after I saw my brother selling his farmed gold online at a rate of about $20/hour (impossible now). And, I got hooked on it. The community was amazing. The graphics sucked, the game was buggy, there wasn't much content - but it all kept improving.

But then, I got hooked on it and played it for a ridiculous amount of time. I got very good at PVP and started dominating. Then I became a guild leader and everyone on my server (Chaos) knew me. The problem with me is that I have an addictive personality. I play a game until I get bored of it or beat it. In Shadowbane, you can just keep getting better. There is no 'end-game' since there's always more people to kill and cities to crush. My life began to revolve around bane times. I would set my alarms for 6am banes and skip classes if the banes went too long. Being a guild leader takes an enormous amount of time in and out of game - it's a full-time job with no pay and no benefits other than personal satisfaction and virtual respect.

I've since quit Shadowbane three times.. and come back to it three times on different servers.. Chaos, Mourning, and Wrath. Every time, I started off with an hour or two a day until I accumulated more and more in game responsibility until I found all my time was taken and I started failing classes.

The last time I quit, I swore to my friends it would be the last time I would have to quit. Ya, I have very fond memories... Once, we had our entire guild show up at 5:45am for a bane on a work day. Once, our guild managed to defend our city against 60 with our 27. Once, I had 13 killshots at a bane. Twice, I led enormous 'zerg' armies of multiple guilds in the huge Chaos Server wars - multiple teamspeak/ventrilo servers, hopping from each, once in victory and once in defeat. Once, we successfully claimed a mine with our spec group of 10 (dorf holy group with one druid (me)) while we had one guild of 20 and three other guilds of 10-15 all trying for it.

But, this was all at the expense of my real life. My friends worried about me - and that depressed me. I like to lead - I can't afford to play an mmorpg and lose stance in real life.

I think I found the problem for me (and for others with addictive personalities or perfectionists) with MMORPGs - YOU CAN'T BEAT THEM. They never end. They have infinite entertainment and more is always added. No matter how much you play, the community is full of people that play more often than you. It makes you feel like it's okay to play 12 hours/day when the other people in your Teamspeak are there all day with you.

So for now, I must stick with single-player games and RPGs. Ya, I might've played Half Life 2 for 8 hours/day when it came out.. But then it was over in two days. That's a good thing, in my book.

And, btw, the pvp in WOW cannot compare to the PVP in Shadowbane until they make the WOW characters more customizable, more varied, and more defined in their roles. Oh ya, lack of buildable assets hardly puts any emotion behind the pvp.

CLIFF NOTES:

- I got addicted to Shadowbane
- I have fond memories and believe it's a great game
- However, you cannot beat an MMORPG
- Perfectionists and those with addictive personalities (like me) should not play an MMORPG
- Shadowbane is still the best pvp mmorpg hands-down.
 

Eli

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I've been playing a text-based MMORPG called MajorMUD for the last 10 years.
 

BlueWeasel

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That sounds like me about 3 years ago during my Asheron's Call addiction. Luckily I moved to an area that didn't have broadband, so I basically had to quit cold turkey. I've tried going back a few times, but everyone has moved on to bigger and newer games, so the AC world is practically empty now.
 

lightweight

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As far as I'm concerned, that post didn't require any cliff notes because it was a good story, and a well written one at that. Anyways, I got hooked on D2 much the same way but it's not really the same type of game. I would spend all night playing the game during the summer of it's release. Sometimes I would stay up the entire night and then make a run to Mcdonalds for breakfast at 7am, to only come back and play more. The thrill for me was finding great items. I never got sick of finding a great item. I'm playing D2 again, but only in moderation. I'm having fun with it, but I have other stuff going on in my life so I don't have tons of time to dedicate to it.
 

lozina

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I enjoyed shadowbane for a while. me and a friend started a guild and built a town. then we had to farm gold for an hour or so a day just to maintain the town. it felt like a job but i wasn't getting paid. so I easily quit.
 

Schadenfroh

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MMORPGs are only a problem for those that lack self-control. I have seen my friends in RL play CS more than WOW. I only play Everquest about an hour each day, is that too much? Most people watch TV longer per day than that.


It is just a freaking game!
 

Rip the Jacker

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
MMORPGs are only a problem for those that lack self-control. I have seen my friends in RL play CS more than WOW. I only play Everquest about an hour each day, is that too much?


It is just a freaking game!

Wrong.

Games like WoW and Diablo II are like crack. You can never stop unless you really really really really really really really really try hard.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: ItmPls
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
MMORPGs are only a problem for those that lack self-control. I have seen my friends in RL play CS more than WOW. I only play Everquest about an hour each day, is that too much?


It is just a freaking game!

Wrong.

Games like WoW and Diablo II are like crack. You can never stop unless you really really really really really really really really try hard.

Maybe for some that dont have the will to just do a /logout. If you cant, you obviously have self control issues and would just get obsessed with something else. I see stories like this as problems with people rather than games.

God forbid a company would make a fun game that people enjoy playing.
 

Zysoclaplem

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When EQ came out, I would play from morning till night. The only reason I would stop is because I needed sleep. I actually have almost gotten into arguements and physical fights because of it. It was my life. At the time I didn't want anything more. I didn't need anything more. I am and have always been introverted, and this game fed on that.

So I quit. I dabble in MMORPGs sometimes, but I never stay for long.
 

900mhz

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Originally posted by: Eli
I've been playing a text-based MMORPG called MajorMUD for the last 10 years.

I played a MUD for a while, Circle or Diku, I forget. What client did you use? I was big into triggers and PVP, its amazing how real the text ones can be :). I gave up because I leveled up a character to 65, remorted and went to 65 again 4 times (thus becoming all classes)

Then I wrote a bot which let me level up again with another character the same way, in a lot less time ;)
 

Acanthus

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3 years of everquest, over 100 days /played when i quit
3 years of dark age of camelot, over 250 days /played when i quit
1 year of world of warcraft, nearly 70 days /played

Its addictive, but i have nothing else to do.
 

HumblePie

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Who cares? that's the whole point to Online games, more value for your buck. Take half life 2. You paid $50 for a game that lasts 20 hours. That can be accomplished in 2 or 3 days. Then it's over. In the old days before online games got big, that was it. You either found new ways to beat the game (like with a knife only) if you wanted more enjoyment out of it, or you got a new game and wasted more money. With online content, Half Life 2 now lasts a bit longer... but the content doesn't grow that much or change. It's still an FPS. For some people, that's enough. However, for others that can get real boring real fast if you are someone that likes something new and different to try all the time.

So Online RPGS with tons of content and ever changing content keep people enthralled for much longer time frames. You pay $50 and a subscription fee, but if you break down to time played versus what you payed, you'd find out how much of a bargain Online RPGs are for your entertainment minute. Compared with TV, movies, music, or just about any other form of entertainment. Heck, even sex costs more even if you have a GF or wife that likes it. Why? You still have to woo them. Dinner, movie, alcohol, gas to drive around, all that adds up.

Anyone, for the best bang for your buck for entertainment value, an online game is where it's at. Assuming you play alot. If you don't then it's not. If you don't play alot don't bother with it in my opinion. Find something else you enjoy and invest time in that.

As far as eating up your life and your schedule, well that's your problem and not others. That's a conscious act and decision. As you admitted, you have an addictive personality (which is what I call a cop out in my book). You could easily have been addicted to building boats in little glass jars then if that is what you enjoy. The thing is, people, ALL PEOPLE would rather spend time doing things that they enjoy then things that have to be done which they don't enjoy. Be it fishing, watching TV, kicking a ball, or playing video games. However, you aren't different then anyone else in that respect. The only difference is you lack proper time management and priority skills. You can't prioritize properly nor manage your time to maximize your FREE time for entertainment and for doing things you have to do but don't like to do. Learn that, and you'll have the keys to a happy life.
 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: 900mhz
Originally posted by: Eli
I've been playing a text-based MMORPG called MajorMUD for the last 10 years.

I played a MUD for a while, Circle or Diku, I forget. What client did you use? I was big into triggers and PVP, its amazing how real the text ones can be :). I gave up because I leveled up a character to 65, remorted and went to 65 again 4 times (thus becoming all classes)

Then I wrote a bot which let me level up again with another character the same way, in a lot less time ;)

wow. how long have you been lurking and waiting to jump in and talk about MUD and diku

 

gigapet

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
3 years of everquest, over 100 days /played when i quit
3 years of dark age of camelot, over 250 days /played when i quit
1 year of world of warcraft, nearly 70 days /played

Its addictive, but i have nothing else to do.

read a book, make money, bang bitches.....anything.......
 

dugweb

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Originally posted by: brxndxn


And, btw, the pvp in WOW cannot compare to the PVP in Shadowbane until they make the WOW characters more customizable, more varied, and more defined in their roles. Oh ya, lack of buildable assets hardly puts any emotion behind the pvp.

i like that you spend the entire post convincing us to not play, than proceed to give a review of the game and try to convince us it's better than another :p

edit: fyi... MMORPG virgin right here

:cookie::p
 

jonMEGA

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I've been playing Guild Wars quite abit lately, I got about 2.5 hours of sleep before work today.
 

MaxDepth

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Cliff Notes for Success
1) Make friends with your classmates
2) Go to parties, or, throw parties on your own and invite classmates and others
3) Volunteer for a worthy project or join a real live organization
4) Participate in said poject/organization
5) Become a leader in above mentioned project/organization
6) Rise to prominence within the community
7) Crush the infidels with your live 'zerg' army.

Live has no end goal either, but out here, you have actual things to show for your participation.
 

Schadenfroh

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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Cliff Notes for Success
1) Make friends with your classmates
2) Go to parties, or, throw parties on your own and invite classmates and others
3) Volunteer for a worthy project or join a real live organization
4) Participate in said poject/organization
5) Become a leader in above mentioned project/organization
6) Rise to prominence within the community
7) Crush the infidels with your live 'zerg' army.

Live has no end goal either, but out here, you have actual things to show for your participation.

hahahahahaha:D
 

900mhz

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Originally posted by: gigapet
Originally posted by: 900mhz
Originally posted by: Eli
I've been playing a text-based MMORPG called MajorMUD for the last 10 years.

I played a MUD for a while, Circle or Diku, I forget. What client did you use? I was big into triggers and PVP, its amazing how real the text ones can be :). I gave up because I leveled up a character to 65, remorted and went to 65 again 4 times (thus becoming all classes)

Then I wrote a bot which let me level up again with another character the same way, in a lot less time ;)

wow. how long have you been lurking and waiting to jump in and talk about MUD and diku


A long time :(