Why I can't buy Intel - at least for the time being.

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

no invention ... everyone else can see it

Your POST says you can't be a current intel fan ... all your posts say it
- you are a former fan

NO current intel fans post what you do. AMD fans do

Uh oh. Now your flip flopping. Now you admit I am a fan but not a current fan? I said in my OP that the Core 2 Duo clearly had AMD beat and that I would like to own one - but I forgot you didn't read my origial post. You ignored the entire post and instantly sought to discuss my so called bitterness which you invented - anyone is free to read and see your actions.

i read the entire post more carefully then you wanted

no flip flop ... it is in my first replys to you

You said you wouldn't buy intel even though they have the faster CPU

Your original post says you can't be a current intel fan ... all your posts say it
- you are a former intel fan

NO current intel fans post what you do. AMD fans do.
[it it looks like a duck, walks and flys like a duck and quacks like a duck
--it IS a duck]

You ignored the entire post and instantly sought to discuss my so called bitterness which you invented - anyone is free to read and see your actions.

Ducks? Now you are using clever replies? I thought you didn't need clever replies?

And no, I won't buy an Intel product right now, as I stated in the original post. Do you have anything to say other than repeat what I already said? That and of course the things you invent...

 

[LightningRider]

Originally posted by: JAG87
I would just like to say one thing.

Your Intel fanboyism is what screwed you in the past, and your Intel anti-fanboyism is screwing you today.

Quit being a fanboy, dont attach yourseld to anything, and buy what is best out on the market at the time of need.

This.

I used a P4 for a few years before upgrading to an Athlon 64 for a few years, now I just bought my latest CPU from Intel. Why you need to be a fanboy and be so brand loyal? Buy the best product at the time. Intel deserves your money because they have a product out that beats the competitor's product hands down and is a wonderful bang for your buck.

If you want to lose out though... That's your problem, seems kind of silly to me though.

 

[HannibalX]

I wasn't aware that there was any questions that I wasn't buying Intel products right now... but I guess there is. Maybe you should re-read the post.

 

[PhlashFoto]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

no invention ... everyone else can see it

Your POST says you can't be a current intel fan ... all your posts say it
- you are a former fan

NO current intel fans post what you do. AMD fans do

Uh oh. Now your flip flopping. Now you admit I am a fan but not a current fan? I said in my OP that the Core 2 Duo clearly had AMD beat and that I would like to own one - but I forgot you didn't read my origial post. You ignored the entire post and instantly sought to discuss my so called bitterness which you invented - anyone is free to read and see your actions.

i read the entire post more carefully then you wanted

no flip flop ... it is in my first reply to you

Let me preface this, Pale Rider, by saying you are not an intel fan as you first sentence indicates. ... a former now-bitter intel fan, perhaps

You said you wouldn't buy intel even though they have the faster CPU

Your original post says you can't be a current intel fan ... all your posts say it
- you are a former intel fan ... and you clearly are bitter

NO current intel fans post what you do. AMD fans do.
[it it looks like a duck, walks and flys like a duck and quacks like a duck
--it IS a duck]

LOL, I was thinking that EXACT thing as I was reading through this thread.

 

[PhlashFoto]

Oh and to the OP: stop living in the past.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

no invention ... everyone else can see it

Your POST says you can't be a current intel fan ... all your posts say it
- you are a former fan

NO current intel fans post what you do. AMD fans do

Uh oh. Now your flip flopping. Now you admit I am a fan but not a current fan? I said in my OP that the Core 2 Duo clearly had AMD beat and that I would like to own one - but I forgot you didn't read my origial post. You ignored the entire post and instantly sought to discuss my so called bitterness which you invented - anyone is free to read and see your actions.

i read the entire post more carefully then you wanted

no flip flop ... it is in my first replys to you

You said you wouldn't buy intel even though they have the faster CPU

Your original post says you can't be a current intel fan ... all your posts say it
- you are a former intel fan

NO current intel fans post what you do. AMD fans do.
[it it looks like a duck, walks and flys like a duck and quacks like a duck
--it IS a duck]

You ignored the entire post and instantly sought to discuss my so called bitterness which you invented - anyone is free to read and see your actions.

Ducks? Now you are using clever replies? I thought you didn't need clever replies?

And no, I won't buy an Intel product right now, as I stated in the original post. Do you have anything to say other than repeat what I already said? That and of course the things you invent...

it is a very cliche reply .. perhaps it is rather out-of-date but rather appropriate in this circumstance

Nothing clever about pointing out the obvious - that you are now an intel-hater and an AMD fan

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

no invention ... everyone else can see it

Your POST says you can't be a current intel fan ... all your posts say it
- you are a former fan

NO current intel fans post what you do. AMD fans do

Uh oh. Now your flip flopping. Now you admit I am a fan but not a current fan? I said in my OP that the Core 2 Duo clearly had AMD beat and that I would like to own one - but I forgot you didn't read my origial post. You ignored the entire post and instantly sought to discuss my so called bitterness which you invented - anyone is free to read and see your actions.

i read the entire post more carefully then you wanted

no flip flop ... it is in my first replys to you

You said you wouldn't buy intel even though they have the faster CPU

Your original post says you can't be a current intel fan ... all your posts say it
- you are a former intel fan

NO current intel fans post what you do. AMD fans do.
[it it looks like a duck, walks and flys like a duck and quacks like a duck
--it IS a duck]

You ignored the entire post and instantly sought to discuss my so called bitterness which you invented - anyone is free to read and see your actions.

Ducks? Now you are using clever replies? I thought you didn't need clever replies?

And no, I won't buy an Intel product right now, as I stated in the original post. Do you have anything to say other than repeat what I already said? That and of course the things you invent...

it is a very cliche reply .. perhaps it is rather out-of-date but rather appropriate in this circumstance

Nothing clever about pointing out the obvious - that you are now an intel-hater and an AMD fan

I don't recall saying I was an Intel hater - you sure like making things up. Again I guess you failed to read the post.

Using your line of thinking, you sound a little bitter that anyone would challenge what Intel did with Netburst.

 

[HannibalX]

apoppin, So who says I can't be a fan of something and rant about it? You? And who are you to decide such things? No one.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: apoppin
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it is a very cliche reply .. perhaps it is rather out-of-date but rather appropriate in this circumstance

Nothing clever about pointing out the obvious - that you are now an intel-hater and an AMD fan

I don't recall saying I was an Intel hater - you sure like making things up. Again I guess you failed to read the post.

Using your line of thinking. you sound a little bitter that anyone would challenge what Intel did with Netburst.[/quote]

you don't seem to recall very much that you posted in your OP - nevermind your replies:

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
Let me preface this post by saying I am an Intel fan. . I have owned every Intel CPU since the 8088 days (not every MHz model but every core model i.e. P-Pro, PII, PIII, etc) right up to the Pentium 4.

I returned the P4 machine to work and brushed off its poor performance as just being a new product with quirks to work out.

. . . my first instinct being a loyal Intel man was to go search around the web for reviews of the latest P4s and try to decide which would be the best price/performance/yadayada. To my surprise AMD was cleaning house. Their Athlon XP line of processors had Intel pinned in almost every category - and sadly Intel was still selling the same slow, hot, power hungry P4s they were a few years earlier - and they were still double the cost.

What was Intel thinking? That I was some sort of idiot? Why in the world would I pay a huge premium for a CPU that ran hot, ran slow, didn't perform and was getting its clock cleaned by the cheaper AMD offerings? Intel just expected me to buy their poor performing P4 because it was an Intel. And that is when I bought my Athlon XP 3200+. This AMD CPU served me well until 2006 when I picked up my current AMD CPU, the FX-60. Around the time the FX-60 came out the best thing Intel had was the 3.73 GHz P4 Extreme Edition. It has an extremely high costs and an Extreme appetite for power. Again it was a no brainer ? I picked up the AMD CPU for less money ($400 less at the time) and much better performance.
... AMD was on top all those years because Intel clearly was attempting to sell their name and not their technology - and they wanted a hell of a lot more money for their name then AMD was asking for their technology.

This brings us to the real point of my story - the reason I can't buy Intel products. Years of overpriced, underperforming, hot, lousy, power hungry Pentium 4 CPUs that Intel expected us to buy at a great expense just because they were "Intel" CPUs. I would love to buy a new Core 2 Duo box, but I won't - because Intel doesn't deserve my business. Maybe next year, maybe the year after that once they have a few good product cycles I will go back. Today I am buying AMD not because they are somehow superior, but because they clearly sold me their best technology they had at the time - not their brand name.

Thanks for reading.

/flame suite on.

Pale.Rider

so you haven't had an intel rig since PIII, and you put them down for the last 5 years all the while owning AMD

You are clearly an intel hater and an AMD fan - for the last 5 years
--yet you try to come across as "fair and balanced"

and you *expected* flames

get real

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: JAG87
piss off already dude.

/thread

With a reply like that you expect anyone to consider what you have to say?

Ok then, you bought a netburst processor, you returned it, and you bought a K7 processor.

So you haven't learned your lesson and you figure, hey, lets buy a K8 processor when Core 2 is clearly better.

Good job dude, keep it up. I'm not gonna argue with you, I'll leave that pleasure to apoppin.

 

[HannibalX]

I never edited the original post.

No I haven't owned an Intel and that is explained in the post. What is your argument now?

Now show me where I said I hate Intel. If I owned Intel for 20 years and AMD for 5 years what does that tell you? I guess if you are looking to smear someone they might come to your warped conclusion.

You sound more like the hater to me. A hater of anyone who challenges Intel. You hate anyone who says anything against Intel is that it?

So who says I can't be a fan of something and rant about it? You? And who are you to decide such things? No one.

 

[amenx]

Quite clear what Pale Rider is... A TROLL. No one uses silly logic like that. Intel TODAY has the best performance, bang for the buck CPUs one can buy. And thats what compells rational people to buy their products rather than anothers brand at the moment. If you're still stuck up on what Intel allegedly did to you some years ago as some basis not to buy their stuff, then I'm afraid you need to go see a shrink ASAP. And if you think you can convince anybody with that sort of logic or to any part of your argument, then I'm afraid have a worse grasp on reality than I suspected. Heres a clue: NO ONE agrees with you and no one will.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: JAG87
piss off already dude.

/thread

With a reply like that you expect anyone to consider what you have to say?

Ok then, you bought a netburst processor, you returned it, and you bought a K7 processor.

So you haven't learned your lesson and you figure, hey, lets buy a K8 processor when Core 2 is clearly better.

Good job dude, keep it up. I'm not gonna argue with you, I'll leave that pleasure to apoppin.

Well in fairness to Intel - I bought my FX-60 before Core 2 Duo was out, but again right now and then also I was not looking to buy Intel. Like I said in the original post, I may buy them again in a few product cycles. I don't feel they deserve my money currently.

Also I never bought a P4, as I already stated.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: amenx
Quite clear what Pale Rider is... A TROLL. No one uses silly logic like that. Intel TODAY has the best performance, bang for the buck CPUs one can buy. And thats what compells rational people to buy their products rather than anothers brand at the moment. If you're still stuck up on what Intel allegedly did to you some years ago as some basis not to buy their stuff, then I'm afraid you need to go see a shrink ASAP. And if you think you can convince anybody with that sort of logic or to any part of your argument, then I'm afraid have a worse grasp on reality than I suspected. Heres a clue: NO ONE agrees with you and no one will.

P.S. Me thinks he cant afford to upgrade from his AMD rig to C2D and is embittered about it so tries to justify it with this bizarre logic to make him feel better.

Wow name calling, that is sure to get people considering what you have to say.

I could easily buy a Core 2 Duo setup right now but choose not to.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
I never edited the original post.

No I haven't owned an Intel and that is explained in the post. What is your argument now?

Now show me where I said I hate Intel. If I owned Intel for 20 years and AMD for 5 years what does that tell you? I guess if you are looking to smear someone they might come to your warped conclusion.

You sound more like the hater to me. A hater of anyone who challenges Intel. You hate anyone who says anything against Intel is that it?

So who says I can't be a fan of something and rant about it? You? And who are you to decide such things? No one.

i already showed everybody else that you have been an AMD fan for the last 5 years ... that you liked intel until 5 years ago - ancient history

Your OP shows you are an intel hater and your purpose was to cause a flame fest

... i actually DO get to decide if this thread stays unlocked or not

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
I never edited the original post.

No I haven't owned an Intel and that is explained in the post. What is your argument now?

Now show me where I said I hate Intel. If I owned Intel for 20 years and AMD for 5 years what does that tell you? I guess if you are looking to smear someone they might come to your warped conclusion.

You sound more like the hater to me. A hater of anyone who challenges Intel. You hate anyone who says anything against Intel is that it?

So who says I can't be a fan of something and rant about it? You? And who are you to decide such things? No one.

i already showed everybody else that you have been an AMD fan for the last 5 years ... that you liked intel until 5 years ago - ancient history

Your OP shows you are an intel hater and your purpose was to cause a flame fest

... i actually DO get to decide if this thread stays unlocked or not

So far you have been the only one flaming.

If you lock this thread it will only be because you don't share my point of view, can't "prove me wrong" because opinions aren't wrong and don't want to reply anymore.

You hate it that I don't agree with you and now you threaten to close the thread. Please.

 

[HannibalX]

i already showed everybody else that you have been an AMD fan for the last 5 years ... that you liked intel until 5 years ago - ancient history

You didn't show anything. Anyone can read the unedited original post and see what CPUs I bought when. You are just mad because I don't agree with you and your flaming hasn't convinced me to "go away". You are not going to bully me.

 

[JAG87]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: amenx
Quite clear what Pale Rider is... A TROLL. No one uses silly logic like that. Intel TODAY has the best performance, bang for the buck CPUs one can buy. And thats what compells rational people to buy their products rather than anothers brand at the moment. If you're still stuck up on what Intel allegedly did to you some years ago as some basis not to buy their stuff, then I'm afraid you need to go see a shrink ASAP. And if you think you can convince anybody with that sort of logic or to any part of your argument, then I'm afraid have a worse grasp on reality than I suspected. Heres a clue: NO ONE agrees with you and no one will.

P.S. Me thinks he cant afford to upgrade from his AMD rig to C2D and is embittered about it so tries to justify it with this bizarre logic to make him feel better.

Wow name calling, that is sure to get people considering what you have to say.

I could easily buy a Core 2 Duo setup right now but choose not to.

so your a masochist then?

you think intel is gonna make it or brake it with your 200 dollars? my brother, both companies need to stay alive, and you need to buy the best chip out there for your money's worth.

 

[HannibalX]

Your OP shows you are an intel hater and your purpose was to cause a flame fest

You went from telling me I wasn't a fan into an intel hater. You claim the post shows that - but what it really shows is that I don't think the company deserves my money. I think you know I am right, and that you wished you had the guts to vote with your wallet like I did - but you didn't - and now you are bitter.

 

[HannibalX]

Originally posted by: JAG87

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: amenx
Quite clear what Pale Rider is... A TROLL. No one uses silly logic like that. Intel TODAY has the best performance, bang for the buck CPUs one can buy. And thats what compells rational people to buy their products rather than anothers brand at the moment. If you're still stuck up on what Intel allegedly did to you some years ago as some basis not to buy their stuff, then I'm afraid you need to go see a shrink ASAP. And if you think you can convince anybody with that sort of logic or to any part of your argument, then I'm afraid have a worse grasp on reality than I suspected. Heres a clue: NO ONE agrees with you and no one will.

P.S. Me thinks he cant afford to upgrade from his AMD rig to C2D and is embittered about it so tries to justify it with this bizarre logic to make him feel better.

Wow name calling, that is sure to get people considering what you have to say.

I could easily buy a Core 2 Duo setup right now but choose not to.

so your a masochist then?

you think intel is gonna make it or brake it with your 200 dollars? my brother, both companies need to stay alive, and you need to buy the best chip out there for your money's worth.

Of course not. $200-$1000 for a CPU is NOTHING to Intel - but it is a significant ammount to me, as I am not a billion dollar corporation.

 

[Markfw]

I vote for lock....

Anyone else ?

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Pale Rider

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: Pale Rider
I never edited the original post.

No I haven't owned an Intel and that is explained in the post. What is your argument now?

Now show me where I said I hate Intel. If I owned Intel for 20 years and AMD for 5 years what does that tell you? I guess if you are looking to smear someone they might come to your warped conclusion.

You sound more like the hater to me. A hater of anyone who challenges Intel. You hate anyone who says anything against Intel is that it?

So who says I can't be a fan of something and rant about it? You? And who are you to decide such things? No one.

i already showed everybody else that you have been an AMD fan for the last 5 years ... that you liked intel until 5 years ago - ancient history

Your OP shows you are an intel hater and your purpose was to cause a flame fest

... i actually DO get to decide if this thread stays unlocked or not

So far you have been the only one flaming.

If you lock this thread it will only be because you don't share my point of view, can't "prove me wrong" because opinions aren't wrong and don't want to reply anymore.

You hate it that I don't agree with you and now you threaten to close the thread. Please.

You have it backwards .. you make a false claim that you are an intel fan - which is patently untrue since you have owned AMD for the past 5 years.

You also posted a thread that you knew would incite flames .. and they have

is there a reason i should not lock it?

 

[HannibalX]

Hah, trying to put the burden on me to prove the thread shouldn't be locked? Try again - you will get no such satisfaction from me.

You took the thread off course by inventing my so called bitterness. Now your argument has failed and you want to lock the thread. Nice.

If this thread gets locked we will all know it was because you didn't like the fact that I won't agree with you.

 

[HannibalX]

Well I am off to work - lets see if apoppin gets mad enough and locks this while I am away.

 

[PhlashFoto]

lock...