Why have I never seen this PSU on Anandtech?

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: raildogg
Just like to add that this Fortron Source FSP550 550W looks to be extremely amazing as well. and its only $96. wow

FSP Group 550W

This Fortron 300W is even more amazing...Two 16A +12V rails and at only $23!

You won't get a better PSU for this price.

EDIT: I looked at the PSU sticker of this Fortron 300W over Newegg, and found out that the combined max power output of both +12V rails is 254W, which means the combined realistic output of the two +12V rails is 21A...Still very impressive for a 300W PSU!

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: StrangerGuy

Originally posted by: raildogg
Just like to add that this Fortron Source FSP550 550W looks to be extremely amazing as well. and its only $96. wow

FSP Group 550W

First, thank you egkenny for finding and posting the link to the 2003 roundup.

The FPS550 looks like a fine unit but one of the difficulties it seems the high output units have is efficiantcy this particular one is 63%. The Emacs @ 500watt is 71%, 32A on a single 12v rail, cost $105. I will order it monday after I find out if it has thermal fan control and SATA connecters, they are offered.
The more efficiant a PSU is, the less waste heat it generates, fan noise and operating costs are better the more efficiant a PSU is.





This Fortron 300W is even more amazing...Two 16A +12V rails and at only $23!

You won't get a better PSU for this price.

Inspite of what Dan's Data has to say about PFC, I think its desirable. This unit doesn't have it. Minor point, true. That's impressive grunt on the 12v line for a 300watt PSU!

In a short interview with a tech from Zippy, Edward Chang, the fella from madshrimps.be/ was told that the spec for 12v dual rail was written by Intel. The main concern was to protect the enduser from the danger of a 30+ amp single 12v line. The PSU manufactuers
were pissed(my word). This spec ment that inorder to fit the componets for dual 12v rail into an ATX sized enclosure would be difficult at best and he saw no real reson why it was necessary.
Dual rail is here, it maybe here to stay. I was not into PCs at the time but I hope Intel treats this spec better than it did Rambus chips(hope that was spelled right).
There are even quad rail PSUs being marketed now. Talk about a marketing game for those that need bragging rights. Oh well!


GY

 

[crockman]

The main concern was to protect the enduser from the danger of a 30+ amp single 12v line.

What's the Danger ? Any thing Major ?

Regards

 

[VRXJudge]

Hey. I'm a noob, and I've more than heard of Sparkle.

 

[CraigRT]

Originally posted by: tw33ter
well the antec's, ocz's, seasonics, tagans, pcp&c's are all tried and true, cant say that for the sparkle

But you can... Sparkle is awesome.

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

Originally posted by: crockman

I think the problem lies in the name; Sparkle sounds like a cheap, budget name.

I'd agree there. That's exactly what I thought, obviously un-true, when I first heard the name

The danger is one might burn themselves or melt a wire, 40-50Amps on a 12V line is alot of snap if the wire is shorted to ground. If a componet shorts out, say a graphics card, it will be hit by the full amperage for a very brief time. By splitting the 12V line a measure of some safety is there. I'm am not not an electrical wizard, just an old fart trying to learn a thing or two about building PCs.
The only fly in the ointment I see, is the guys that run dual/SLI graphics set-ups may be forced into buying dual rail PSUs inorder to cover warrenty, that *may* happen in the future. I wouldn't be suprised.
The PSU you have is probably fine, be happy you got the rebate and use it till its time to up-grade your system. My so-so parts are set aside for a junk back-up comp for me to tinker with.

crockman, go to my second post in this thread and read the *whole* article you will find at madshrimps.be/.


GY

 

[crockman]

The PSU you have is probably fine, be happy you got the rebate and use it till its time to up-grade your system

crockman, go to my second post in this thread and read the *whole* article you will find at madshrimps.be/.

Thanks, i'll certainly go and Read that Article

 

[Pythias]

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
Notice the part number lettering starts with, FSP. FSP Group are the makers of Fortron.
I would not be suprised if Sparkel was made in the same factory. Sparkel was highly rated three years ago. Prolly still a very good unit.

My next PSU will be an Emacs Hp2-6400P, 500watt @ $105 or HG2 6400,400watt@ $75.
The supplier is home close, xxera.com. ,no shipping, will call

These are not rebadges and can be seen at, zippy.com.tw. These ppl make serious power supplies for mission critical applications.

I run two comps both with 400watt FSP Group Fortrons. When I bought these three years ago
Sparkel was in the running.


GY

I have Zippy/EMACS's 700w beast... 45A on the single 12V rail. Its a sweet PSU.

You lucky, lucky bastard!

 

[Pythias]

well the antec's, ocz's, seasonics, tagans, pcp&c's are all tried and true, cant say that for the sparkle

Cuz the better known name brands have better quality... and they are underrated by a larger margin in specs compared to no-name brands

Are you guys on crack?

Tom's Hardware

 

[Pr0d1gy]

Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: Bona Fide
The Antec Truepower II 550W is around the same price. I would go with it over this only because it's SLI-compliant and has dual 12V+ rails.

Dual 12v rails isn't a plus in my book. It limits the flexibility of the PSU. Even if the Truepower has 36a, that's 18a on each 12V rail. In my application, I have a dinky Celeron 2400 w/an onboard ATI Mach64 video card and 18 hard drives. The motherboard/CPU doesn't need 18a and I can't run 18 hard drives or even 10 off of the other 18a rail. With a single rail PSU, I'd have the power I need on the 12v rail.

Yeah, that was exactly what I was thinking.

Nice chop of my post to suit your needs EatSpam. I clearly stated that the dual 12v rails are good if you plan on doing SLi or Crossfire setups, and they are...especially one like mine with 18 on each rail...which is way more than enough for both vid cards & the mobo. Again, please read the original post before making an 455 out of yourself. Thanks.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: sniperruff

Originally posted by: tw33ter
well the antec's, ocz's, seasonics, tagans, pcp&c's are all tried and true, cant say that for the sparkle

more like antec, forton and sparkle are all tried and true. they've been around the longest.

OH Sparkle is definitely tried and true. Maybe you're forgetting Fortron is a very popular PSU.. (Fortron = Sparkle).

Now now, Fortron fanboys, please be quiet. There are tons of PSU manufacturers better. Antec, Seasonic, PC P&C, Zippy.. all better.

 

[Duvie]

Originally posted by: ElTorrente

Originally posted by: Skyhanger
Cuz the better known name brands have better quality... and they are underrated by a larger margin in specs compared to no-name brands.

Are you kidding?!?! What in the world are you talking about?

Sparkle is a well regarded brand- it is an excellent PSU. I'd rather have one of these than a "better known name brand" like enermax, antec, etc..

I then ask you, are you kidding???...I haved owned sparkles in the past and built many older Athl;n XP systems with 350 and 400watters and these were some of the only power supplies I have ever had fail. Sent 2 of them back and replaced one with an antec and one with an enermax and they run today....

Dont act so high and mighty....Those name brands haven't failed me and sparkle has....

 

[Pythias]

Originally posted by: Duvie

Originally posted by: ElTorrente

Originally posted by: Skyhanger
Cuz the better known name brands have better quality... and they are underrated by a larger margin in specs compared to no-name brands.

Are you kidding?!?! What in the world are you talking about?

Sparkle is a well regarded brand- it is an excellent PSU. I'd rather have one of these than a "better known name brand" like enermax, antec, etc..

I then ask you, are you kidding???...I haved owned sparkles in the past and built many older Athl;n XP systems with 350 and 400watters and these were some of the only power supplies I have ever had fail. Sent 2 of them back and replaced one with an antec and one with an enermax and they run today....

Dont act so high and mighty....Those name brands haven't failed me and sparkle has....

So? Antecs and enermax's poop out, too. All brands do. Sorry about your luck.

 

[Duvie]

Until they do on me I dont see a reason to buy sparkle again!!! Nuff said.....


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103464#DetailSpecs

I would take this power supply over tha one...33A on the 12v rail versus 35A yet it says it has OCI-e cable and 24pin and on top of it the manufacturer webpage says 70% efficiency versus the rather low 63% of the sparkle...

 

[Pythias]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Until they do on me I dont see a reason to buy sparkle again!!! Nuff said.....


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103464#DetailSpecs

I would take this power supply over tha one...33A on the 12v rail versus 35A yet it says it has OCI-e cable and 24pin and on top of it the manufacturer webpage says 70% efficiency versus the rather low 63% of the sparkle...

That is an excellent psu. No doubt.

 

[Duvie]

Have you heard anything about enermaxes new liberty line?? They say 80% or greater efficiency....

 

[Pythias]

Originally posted by: Duvie
Have you heard anything about enermaxes new liberty line?? They say 80% or greater efficiency....

No, but it seems like I read an review over a year ago on the noistaker series where the reviewer was getting over 80%.