Why have a WAIS-V? why/how is the DSM-V wonderful?

[Anarchist420]

I can't resist, but I have increased vascular risk like by always posting about the MBTI; perhaps it was one of Katherine Myers' goals to make people like her husband feel bad and to show judging types what it's like to be boxed in. Perhaps not. I can't be sure.

But IQ isn't global is it? How would you reform IQ testing if something like a WAIS-4.5 comes out? what would you do you for the WAIS-V if it comes out? What tests are good for children?

The Department of Indoctrination, if reformed, won't please enough. Ron Paul and those in his 2012 campaign team (the Restore America Now document writers) were pretty precise especially about education policy;

it could've been more of a dreamy style like the Epilogue of the Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union though; it also used Keynesian-style stats (like GDP) so it looked like a plan to some when it wasn't really a plan; it won't always be appropriate either.

Additionally, I doubt Newt will want to reform or recycle waste. Obama Jr. (I thought he was of Japanese or North Asian ancestry when I first saw his name "*bama" instead of "*Yama" and the photo of his face which was on time magazine) seems to me to be getting really, really sick of the red tape and the waste the GOP politicians past and present stuck to him.

i am asking don't understand why concepts like intelligence are quantified like IQ could be given that IQ isn't stable and given the environment. the DSM-V seems more like a cover-up than a reason (e.g., schizo-affective disorder couldn't really be agreed and the dynamism of humans and the environment making it too hard to label despite two criteria defining). The DSM-IV-TR was okay. But psychiatry after that is too many excuses.

So liberty needs psychiatry to end. fortunately, most psychiatrists are older and psychiatry is almost expired. so that hopefully no one has to go through what I went through and so that medical care can be more decentralized and not as structured or official; more direct to patient. Health insurance portability and privacy legislation lead to the unaffordable care act.



precision, politeness, kindness, and inductive reasoning have to have come from the supreme creator. i guess absolution, lies, and non-inductive logic came from men. So remember, God could be a Jeffersonian-Madisonian-Rothbardian secular human who gives all a chance as he was apt at walking away freely like Thomas Jefferson and murray Rothbard were.

I can't be the only one remembering Rothbard and Obama playing Devil's Advocate (like when Obama was ordered by his supporters to tell ron paul to go away; I can't find the video of ron paul saying that, but Obama's 08 supporters included a lot of devils and I am of, by, and for devilish men). And Rothbard was Pat buchanan's advocate and David duke's advocate;

why doesn't David Duke appreciate Murray Rothbard? David Duke hasn't even been aggressed against by anyone self-identifying as Jewish yet! I guess he was more afraid "to stick to attacking the blacks". He shouldn't be such a **55y. Perhaps he is too stable. Perhaps I shouldnt even try to be stable.

But both Dr. David Duke and I go around as college graduates when no one really earns a absolutely global degree. Education and its institutions are naturally non-violent and fun. so my intj professors were good and I want them to have wealth and happiness without their students getting bored or uncomfortable and without the institution dependent on aggression.

So the internet IQ tests--are they mature enough?

the last INTJ IQ test giver I had really was quick to start writing marks, no solutions, and smiling PRETTY much AGAINST me. She is a good person though and I am happy she was there. She is good with kids especially ones dx'd with autism.

More fortunately, the INFJ owner/counselor helped make that report eloquent (introverted thinking started kicking) and minimized the risk of aux/dominant extraverted thinking to myself. He also made it rather feminine-sounding ("he may have bullied by other kids when he was younger" "he may be moralistic" but also kind of funny) without imagination.

The criticisms the test giver made like "he may be compulsive, have akathasia, [insert 6 other forms of incompetence here]" were okay. Professional is not always desirable; perhaps perceivers couldn't give an IQ test. But I don't want to sexually harass the INTJ and I don't want their office to get divided from this OP.

Introverted thinking is good with operating precision which explains my counselor's eloquence; as well as Richard Stallman's heroism, his computer aptitude, and his dislike of patents. If he and John Carmack got together they could be like Martin Van Buren and Thomas Jefferson, saving liberty which is happiness and is the best help towards civilization society. I wish I had been born with introverted thinking but the prenatal T correlated with my mtDNA was too high to not be extraverted thinking aux/dominant I guess. I also don't want to waste anymore.

I can be swayed in favor of tyranny or liberty, but i hope to die without anyone else getting prosecuted by the State or killed by private aggressors ... before, of course, the secession begins. I don't want to lose the knowledge currently in the brain in my own head though. I want to be safe from brainwashing; I don't trust myself to not be non-violent on my own; I'd rather get killed by an aggressor (there is very little wall between State criminal and individual criminal these days and it is scary) than be one myself. Most in the GOP can't be trusted and I can't trust the Democrats or even the LP these days.

I wish I wasn't so incoherent and tired.

 

[brianmanahan]

I wish I wasn't so incoherent

first step: limit all your posts to 100 words or less

 

[rockyct]

Please get help. I know you probably continue to resist help from your parents and your doctors, but please let them.

 

[TheVrolok]

Please get help. I know you probably continue to resist help from your parents and your doctors, but please let them.

Yep pretty much this.

 

[Markbnj]

I fed this post to a neural network I am developing to detect insanity. It told me I could retire now.

 

[intogamer]

The DSM is simply a diagnostic reference-book intended for psychiatrists since its inception - per the the publishing by the APA (American Psychiatric Association). However, with the rise of managed-care, it has paved the way to over-utilize the reference book. As well as the greater mental health community, which money schools of thoughts are at odds with but find no other alternate solution.

There are a lot of inherent flaws within the structure of how the DSM approaches its diagnostic criterion and conceptualization of mental disorders. It's categorization has inherent flaws where it promulgates the the over-lap criterion among various other disorders -- nonetheless does not provide holistic descriptive understanding and etiological explanations. There is a lot of bias and problems with the DSM not just today with the DSM-5, but in its multi-decade entirety.

Classifying Psychopathology: Mental Kinds and Natural Kinds should help quell and disarm any notions about it in an objective point of analysis.

http://www.mitpress.mit.edu/books/classifying-psychopathology

 

[Anarchist420]

I am sorry if I couldn't respond to all.

I figured out not to doubt David Keirsey and that he was the one who made MBTI coherent by breaking it down; he explained it without making assumptions so it would be good for liberty; Isabel Myers was a sick NFP like me (she made it to help FDR and to smash the U.S.G's then-enemies I guess), and like Adolph Hitler and Alex Hamilton.

Anyway, Alexander Hamilton's emotions opened the pandora's box as he was the first treasury secretary and Madison's rational risk-reducing brain shut down Hamilton's proto-fascism (like Mein Kampf and Hamilton's draft which listed State powers for "bills of attainder" for "corruption of blood" under what became Art 1 Sec 8) as Madison was and is the liberty pen of America. Not only that, Oddly Developed Types author said Hitler was an ENFP like me hamilton and Che Guevara and Fidel Castro (the U.S.G. couldn't take everyone now could it?). Well, I am an ENFP too. It's just that my father is the INFJ idealist like Ron Paul and the non/anti-bureaucrat while Hitler's parents' roles were reversed from mine. I am terrible at minimizing risk and listening to others logic.

And if you read Jefferson's 16 Articles of Confederation proposal , you'll see that he and Madison were just alike. Jefferson didn't make a mosaic of 13 like the Confederation that actually existed was. Thomas Jefferson and James Madison can't be appreciated enough on this earth and that is unfortunate. And don't forgot John Q Adams supported secession because he was rational; he just needed the "public works" and firms for his stable income. Andrew Jackson didn't because he liked the people (he was almost as egalitarian as Thomas Jefferson except when it came to the Original Americans the former wasn't consistent due to his tertiary introverted sensing) and couldn't foresee high tariffs and paper money coming to town since he knew was going to get the people and the competent bankers their gold back from their centralist banksters. Like I said, Dr. Kraxberger kicked me, Alexander Hamilton, out of class because of his INTP classical liberal egalitarianism.

And an INTP will be as scathing as hannah arendt to me if I am ever as shitty and corrupt as Adolf Eichmann was.

and by the way, the lady who did the IQ test may have been an ISTJ (she was puzzled and scared of me; very cautious around me and she was clumsier than an INTJ would be although not like me). So I'll trust psychiatrists more now that I know what to do; it's just that I can't reason on the spot or deductively shut things down in a flash like they can and like most oldest brother (an INTJ) can.

Honestly this ISTJ apple shaped red haired girl of Dutch Calvinist/Huguenot matrilineage and mtDNA U/K (i.e., she had New Jersey origins which was a dutch colony) as of whom I used to kindly stalk (she farted around me a few times too on accident and it smelled good; she had a lot of internal pain and was a gymnast) is the one I still want to be my Aaron Burr--if I get too depressed I want her to shoot me to kill me with her getting off--she already threw cigarettes at my mom's car twice (she didn't see my mom) at the same intersection. Anyway, I want her to get away with killing me too.

So she was kind of mean like my mom. Fortunately, she looked nothing like my mom; she rejected my change and ingenuity like my mom does.

first step: limit all your posts to 100 words or less

I Can't help that at this point. i am sorry.

Please get help. I know you probably continue to resist help from your parents and your doctors, but please let them.

I am going to see; my psychiatrists care about me but I need to also be independent of them. and i do not resist help from my parents usually (I want to get off the vyvanse which makes me unstable and to do something about the anti-psychotic chemicals; maybe replace with neurofeedback done by an introverted-intuitive extraverted-feeling introverted-thinking type in that order.). I especially do not intentionally resist my dad's help which I competed for a little too harshly.

i want to die soon though because I wish I actually was an ESTJ now because of the Sensing Perceiving women being hotter and better with SJ types. the chemicals in my mtDNA (and Y-DNA if it isn't R1b) scare the SFJ women with mtDNA U/K and O Rh negative blood type when born.

TLDR: no one likes Hitler or Hamilton; few liked Ron Paul, no one likes me; no one likes an Idealist. I am a philosophical libertarian (i don't like my mom's control or how she looks), but I am just too idealistic like Ron Paul was and especially like Hitler and Hamilton were to write pro-liberty anti-legislation or to minimize risk for society. I don't want to be taken too seriously. Even traditionalistic people (like the southern colonies up until the War to Preserve govt revenue) are more libertarian than i could be in office. i am too puritanical, superstitious, paranoid, and moralistic like the New England colonies were. Hell, my INFJ dad's precision through introverted thinking could mean he is more classical liberal than I am.

The DSM is simply a diagnostic reference-book intended for psychiatrists since its inception - per the the publishing by the APA (American Psychiatric Association). However, with the rise of managed-care, it has paved the way to over-utilize the reference book. As well as the greater mental health community, which money schools of thoughts are at odds with but find no other alternate solution. There are a lot of inherent flaws within the structure of how the DSM approaches its diagnostic criterion and conceptualization of mental disorders. It's categorization has inherent flaws where it promulgates the the over-lap criterion among various other disorders -- nonetheless does not provide holistic descriptive understanding and etiological explanations. There is a lot of bias and problems with the DSM not just today with the DSM-5, but in its multi-decade entirety. Classifying Psychopathology: Mental Kinds and Natural Kinds should help quell and disarm any notions about it in an objective point of analysis. http://www.mitpress.mit.edu/books/cl...sychopathology

Thanks you're "the coolest dude ever"

 

[brianmanahan]

have you ever thought about completely ignoring politics? like, don't watch TV, don't read the news, don't post in P&N?

i think it would have benefits.

 

[Pulsar]

Stuff

Do you understand that using non-stop acronyms does not make you appear intelligent, it makes you appear to simply be a whack job?

 

[rockyct]

I am going to see; my psychiatrists care about me but I need to also be independent of them. and i do not resist help from my parents usually (I want to get off the vyvanse which makes me unstable and to do something about the anti-psychotic chemicals; maybe replace with neurofeedback done by an introverted-intuitive extraverted-feeling introverted-thinking type in that order.). I especially do not intentionally resist my dad's help which I competed for a little too harshly.

i want to die soon though because I wish I actually was an ESTJ now because of the Sensing Perceiving women being hotter and better with SJ types. the chemicals in my mtDNA (and Y-DNA if it isn't R1b) scare the SFJ women with mtDNA U/K and O Rh negative blood type when born.

You create a lot of scientific sounding excuses as to why your life basically sucks and maybe believing that you were born to doomed life is a coping method, but your mind isn't operating in a healthy way or at least one that helps a person live a "normal" lifestyle. Maybe you don't want a "normal" mind but it's not your Myers-Briggs score or your mtDNA that are holding you back, it's your thought processes. Your mind operates in a way that is hard for other people to understand and that makes you incompatible with them.

I knew someone who I thought was basically normal but she began to go into conspiracy theories including one that involved the blood of children being mixed with meat to make McDonald's hamburgers (I shit you not, she actually believes this). I instantly lost all respect for her and basically cannot trust anything she says because if she actually believes that McDonald's hamburgers are children, everything she says is now in doubt. I was never interested in her, but if I was, I instantly would have decided never to pursue a relationship with her and I let any friendship with her naturally die as well.

You are doing the same thing when you talk about the importance of Myers-Brigg, mtDNA, IQ tests in general, etc. Very few people believe they actually matter or determine one's path in life so your values are incompatible with the values of the majority of women. Maybe if you were super hot you could get laid and in that way you're probably genetically screwed like the rest of us, but basically your values/beliefs are what are holding you back.

 

[Anarchist420]

You create a lot of scientific sounding excuses as to why your life basically sucks and maybe believing that you were born to doomed life is a coping method, but your mind isn't operating in a healthy way or at least one that helps a person live a "normal" lifestyle. Maybe you don't want a "normal" mind but it's not your Myers-Briggs score or your mtDNA that are holding you back, it's your thought processes. Your mind operates in a way that is hard for other people to understand and that makes you incompatible with them. I knew someone who I thought was basically normal but she began to go into conspiracy theories including one that involved the blood of children being mixed with meat to make McDonald's hamburgers (I shit you not, she actually believes this). I instantly lost all respect for her and basically cannot trust anything she says because if she actually believes that McDonald's hamburgers are children, everything she says is now in doubt. I was never interested in her, but if I was, I instantly would have decided never to pursue a relationship with her and I let any friendship with her naturally die as well. You are doing the same thing when you talk about the importance of Myers-Brigg, mtDNA, IQ tests in general, etc. Very few people believe they actually matter or determine one's path in life so your values are incompatible with the values of the majority of women. Maybe if you were super hot you could get laid and in that way you're probably genetically screwed like the rest of us, but basically your values/beliefs are what are holding you back.

I don't believe IQ tests are holding anyone back. I have never taken an official MBTI test, but it sounds like something like straight out from a good anus that was explained by the Rational INTP David Keirsey who was liberal when it came to justice and kids as INTPs tend to be y'know like James Madison and Thomas Jefferson.

And MBTI seems like a good anus because I am an emotional extraverted intuitive quite like Myers and Alexander Hamilton were. You seem like my mom--a little closed. but please, if you have to reject theories (a lot of things are conspiracies) then make it fun for yourself; and I don't examine all sides (as Isabel Myers obviously didnt when she extrapolated Jungian theory). but I do see many possibilities and I see them one right after another. and perhaps there is no such thing as "normal" (at least you put in quotes. who is normal? why does anyone get to define what is normal for everyone and all the time?

and maybe she changes her beliefs and she won't always believe mcdonald's hamburgers are children. perhaps she entertains some. i find it cute myself because i have always loved inanimate objects and felt sorry to see the cotton candy not be eaten completely when i was 5. my mom would kind of punish me when i started crying in public and my dad (i guess i am an idealist like him except only i am not polite to all and i have no regard for the law) would lose his mind because he couldn't put up with the disorder.

and my values are incompatible w/ those of the majority of women. but there are some women they are not incompatible with. and i don't like vaginal intercourse unless it is to impregnate for kids. i prefer anal, hands and maybe armpit sex from women with mtDNA U/K and O negative blood types (i like their strong legs, their wide waists, their large convex noses, very pale skin, their high blood ph to balance my acidic blood, and their very high cephalic indices their flat backs of heads, as well as red/blond hair and blue/green eyes sometimes the freckles; all those are highly correlated with mtDNA hg U/K and O negative from both parents). i wish i could minimize risks, but again I am like Alexander Hamilton and Che Guevara. I can't be a consistent anything.

I even had ED several times yesterday due to psychological issues. Maybe I should join the IDF (if you know what I mean); but then I don't want to get sterilized.

 

[rockyct]

I don't believe IQ tests are holding anyone back. I have never taken an official MBTI test, but it sounds like something like straight out from a good anus that was explained by the Rational INTP David Keirsey who was liberal when it came to justice and kids as INTPs tend to be y'know like James Madison and Thomas Jefferson.

And MBTI seems like a good anus because I am an emotional extraverted intuitive quite like Myers and Alexander Hamilton were. You seem like my mom--a little closed. but please, if you have to reject theories (a lot of things are conspiracies) then make it fun for yourself; and I don't examine all sides (as Isabel Myers obviously didnt when she extrapolated Jungian theory). but I do see many possibilities and I see them one right after another. and perhaps there is no such thing as "normal" (at least you put in quotes. who is normal? why does anyone get to define what is normal for everyone and all the time?

and maybe she changes her beliefs and she won't always believe mcdonald's hamburgers are children. perhaps she entertains some. i find it cute myself because i have always loved inanimate objects and felt sorry to see the cotton candy not be eaten completely when i was 5. my mom would kind of punish me when i started crying in public and my dad (i guess i am an idealist like him except only i am not polite to all and i have no regard for the law) would lose his mind because he couldn't put up with the disorder.

and my values are incompatible w/ those of the majority of women. but there are some women they are not incompatible with. and i don't like vaginal intercourse unless it is to impregnate for kids. i prefer anal, hands and maybe armpit sex from women with mtDNA U/K and O negative blood types (i like their strong legs, their wide waists, their large convex noses, very pale skin, their high blood ph to balance my acidic blood, and their very high cephalic indices their flat backs of heads, as well as red/blond hair and blue/green eyes sometimes the freckles; all those are highly correlated with mtDNA hg U/K and O negative from both parents). i wish i could minimize risks, but again I am like Alexander Hamilton and Che Guevara. I can't be a consistent anything.

I even had ED several times yesterday due to psychological issues. Maybe I should join the IDF (if you know what I mean); but then I don't want to get sterilized.

Conspiracies are fun, Myers-Briggs tests are fun. I enjoy reading about conspiracy theories because they are entertaining, not because they are true. Reading /r/creepypasta on Reddit is fun because they are scary stories that are often well written. I don't read them because they are true. The problem is when they go from being fun to being something that you base your life around. The reason why I don't is because I believe in things like the scientific method (Myers-Briggs tests fail completely) and evidence gathered from trusted sources. People who take conspiracy theories as the truth enjoy the feeling of believing they are "enlightened" and thus better than others and will use that feeling to override critical analysis. When I was fairly young (maybe 14), I saw JFK and legitimately believed in the movie. However, I read up about criticisms with the movie and other information about the assassination and came to believe that the movie was basically bullshit. I've watched the movie since again and still enjoy it for it's effective story telling, but I don't believe it.

Normal is "normal" because no one is truly normal, just whether or not someone fits into the large part of the bell curve. However, that normality also essentially correlates to what is a healthy way of thinking. If someone has an anxiety where they are afraid of bacteria/viruses/germs/whatever in the world around them and they let the anxiety control them to the point where they don't go out, they don't interact with people, and they live in fear, it means they have a problem. Their mind doesn't fit into the "normal" category and is a mental illness that prevents them from living in a healthy way. They will continue to live like this unless they let others help them usually with therapy and often with drugs, at least for a time.

Most people don't give specific criteria for their future spouse because 1) the deck is stacked enough against finding someone already, and 2) you'll be surprised at who you can fall in love with and what most people can overlook as a result.

 

[Anarchist420]

Conspiracies are fun, Myers-Briggs tests are fun. I enjoy reading about conspiracy theories because they are entertaining, not because they are true. Reading /r/creepypasta on Reddit is fun because they are scary stories that are often well written. I don't read them because they are true. The problem is when they go from being fun to being something that you base your life around. The reason why I don't is because I believe in things like the scientific method (Myers-Briggs tests fail completely) and evidence gathered from trusted sources. People who take conspiracy theories as the truth enjoy the feeling of believing they are "enlightened" and thus better than others and will use that feeling to override critical analysis. When I was fairly young (maybe 14), I saw JFK and legitimately believed in the movie. However, I read up about criticisms with the movie and other information about the assassination and came to believe that the movie was basically bullshit. I've watched the movie since again and still enjoy it for it's effective story telling, but I don't believe it. Normal is "normal" because no one is truly normal, just whether or not someone fits into the large part of the bell curve. However, that normality also essentially correlates to what is a healthy way of thinking. If someone has an anxiety where they are afraid of bacteria/viruses/germs/whatever in the world around them and they let the anxiety control them to the point where they don't go out, they don't interact with people, and they live in fear, it means they have a problem. Their mind doesn't fit into the "normal" category and is a mental illness that prevents them from living in a healthy way. They will continue to live like this unless they let others help them usually with therapy and often with drugs, at least for a time. Most people don't give specific criteria for their future spouse because 1) the deck is stacked enough against finding someone already, and 2) you'll be surprised at who you can fall in love with and what most people can overlook as a result.

I agree with that Everyone seeks security, sensations, identity, and knowledge sometimes.

And I probably need medication and I have no plans to quit with professional help, but i'm just too hyper and tesosteronal. Maybe it isnt the vax and maybe my brain grows or reforms. But, the problem is that I don't want the drug companies waste nearly every morning, i don't want injections on a schedule, and the psychiatrists need to know that their extreme structure and scheduling might come at the expense of not only my parents, but also myself and society. Then i can't run their lives either and I wouldn't want to. What if 10/11 of the pharmaceutical companies creations' like vax, medication, and pharmaceutical jank turned out to be little more than recycled waste?

and every NP is different; I talk too much like Hitler did. Maybe Romney and FDR and Wilson were both NPs rather than an SJs (i am a lot like him nonetheless); it's fun to theorize. Incorruptible, OTOH, is smarter than I am and he didn't talk too much; he was not obsessive compulsive like I am (maybe my abilify and vyvanse makes me go from introvert to extravert/SJ and to NP/manic). I believe I first met Incorruptible in '96. Everyone did say that I looked more like my dad when I was younger and I guess I did, but I never dated either possibly because of the way I look and smell from my mtDNA and blood type. I look like Hitler kind of as does my dad; he didn't have such good luck and he may not have even known for 100% if he had conceived. but my brain can be improved through methods and techniques others than drugs. My IQ scores have varied partly due to the vaccinations and pharma products; maybe I would be unable to talk without the vyvanse. but the vax were not a good idea.

And you are right about love but I don't want to ever get bound into marriage; like I said it is a piece of paper and I could be a wife beater when I don't want to be a husband. I am more of a free-sexer. I like my freedom and others shouldnt put up with my compulsivity. I will not be a husband and I want women to be free so they can help themselves and society.

I have little respect for social tradition or even the present moment; I cant and dont want to hurt the future by, with, or for the sword and I am sure I am unelectable anyway (which is something wonderful about republicanism and decentralism).

and if i am not careful then i could wind up as dictator or tricked into working for ISIS or what succeeds it. the u.s.g. should release Jonathan Pollard though.

 

[brianmanahan]

The problem is when they go from being fun to being something that you base your life around.

 

[Anarchist420]

actually the psychologist who did the iq test was SFP. I am assuming ISFP; she wasn't clumsy and I am sorry for saying that. I was a real eyesore to her and for that I wish I was dead.

"mental illness" isn't my primary problem in the least; it is my acidic blood ph and high prenatal T caused by my mitochondrial genes. so as i have the soul of a beast, i am forbidden by God to be a blood father of any of his chosen (i.e., anyone with mtDNA haplogroups U/UK, A, D).