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Why hate Dell?

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I bought my Dell 4600 on April 7th it has a 3.4ghz p4, 1gb ddr 3200, 9800pro, 200gb hd, XP, 6 months of earthlink, etc... for right @ $850 I can't complain.


Tom
 
the crap they preload on it and the crazy way they have their mobos and hard drives mounted, oh yes, and proprietary parts, did i also mention they suck?
 
Another reason I can't stand them - their damn proprietary, poorly designed cases.
I've got a Dimension l700cxe here, and I can only get one panel off - the left side. However, I need to remove the hard drive. Problem - I can't see how it's mounted. I THINK it is mounted to the front of the case, which means I need to get the front panel off. To do that, I need to get the right-side panel off. And I don't see any way of doing that.
I think the PC has a virus on it (or else it's just that WinME seriously sucks) - or something that is preventing the AVG program setup from running. So I want to hook the hard drive to another computer. But the damn thing is trapped in this monstrosity from Hell, or rather, Dell, sorry.
And yes, the power supply's wiring is completely different than a standard ATX plug, as is the auxilary power connector that it uses.


Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
the crap they preload on it and the crazy way they have their mobos and hard drives mounted, oh yes, and proprietary parts, did i also mention they suck?

Ah yes, the preloaded stuff - everyone knows you can pile on the extra apps too on a Celeron 700 with 64MB of RAM.
 
I hate dell because I bought a laptop for my brother, an 8600. It lasted exactly a month before it refused to turn on. apparently the video card went, then the whole motherboard.

However, they gave me 200 dollars back when I threatened them if they didn't give me a new system since it hadn't lasted longer than a month.
 
For people who don't know how to build PC's, ignorance is bliss when they buy Dells. They get a "Pentium 4" system for around $500-600 and it HAS to be a good deal, but all their other hardware components suck for the price..

My friend got a Dimension 4600 about a year ago and the PSU died recently and before that, the system would always crash during games.. Tech support is always crap since you sit on the phone for over an hour and you keep getting transferred since they cannot understand you or don't know how to solve your problem..

Another friend got a Dimension 3000 - P4 2.66 with 512mb of RAM.. should be a pretty fast system, but naw, the way Dell configures it and loads up a bunch of BS at windows startup causes the computer to take FIVE MINUTES to startup! I cancelled about 10 startup programs in regedit, but it still takes about 3 min to start..

No one who is capable of building a system would buy a prebuilt system with proprietary parts, but I admit its not bad for the regular internet browser, email, chat user

OH I also hate how some of my friends rant and rave about their "FREE PRINTER" offer... They dont give you the parallel/usb cable to hook it up to your computer, and they want to charge you $20 for it (the value of the printer itself)!!! AND their printers eat up ink like an SUVs guzzle gas AND Dell ink cartridges cost at least $50!

ARGH... stupid DELL
 
Originally posted by: Dennis Travis
I think Dells are fine for the average user out there that does not do really demanding stuff. The reason most here don't really like dells is most real Anandtechers are real computer nuts and want the best. For people like most of us Dell just does not cut it.

...

Dell's are fine for average people though who don't want to build their own and want a lot of support.


Forgot one other point, I really look down on Dell for not offering their users a choice of the AMD 64 in their home systems and the Opteron in their servers as they are such a powerfull option to Intel for less $$$. Let the customer have a choice.



^^^what he said. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Dennis Travis
I think Dells are fine for the average user out there that does not do really demanding stuff. The reason most here don't really like dells is most real Anandtechers are real computer nuts and want the best. For people like most of us Dell just does not cut it.

...

Dell's are fine for average people though who don't want to build their own and want a lot of support.


Forgot one other point, I really look down on Dell for not offering their users a choice of the AMD 64 in their home systems and the Opteron in their servers as they are such a powerfull option to Intel for less $$$. Let the customer have a choice.



^^^what he said. 🙂


Nearly all potential Dell buyers have never even heard of AMD... Theyre like Athlon SP??? WTF is that???

 
Oh yeah, they also stand accused of using Windows Millenium Edition. They helped spread the evil that Microsoft unleashed in this pitiful excuse to shove the word "millenium" into a product name.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Oh yeah, they also stand accused of using Windows Millenium Edition. They helped spread the evil that Microsoft unleashed in this pitiful excuse to shove the word "millenium" into a product name.

My Compaq cries.
 
I don't hate Dell but I work in the tech department at a university library and we use almost all Dells now. My boss's fan in his Dell actually started smoking. My whole department thinks that the Dell customer service is really bad too so we never want to be the ones to RMA computers or parts.
 
It seems like half of you guys need a girlfriend or a hobbie besides your computer.

Dell builds a great computer at a great price (if you buy at the right time).



Tom
 
and printers too.. its prob a rebadged, but they sold me a dell 1600n, multi function networked laser/copier/fax/scanner for 200 instead of the 399 listed
 
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It seems like half of you guys need a girlfriend or a hobbie besides your computer.

Dell builds a great computer at a great price (if you buy at the right time).



Tom

Lol, out come the personal attacks. Who needs to get out more again? People with tech knowledge or people who namecall over computers?
 
the dell 400sc deals cannot be beat. the two that we have are great machines. got them barebones and put in our own scsi drives and extra ram.
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It seems like half of you guys need a girlfriend or a hobbie besides your computer.

Dell builds a great computer at a great price (if you buy at the right time).



Tom

Lol, out come the personal attacks. Who needs to get out more again? People with tech knowledge or people who namecall over computers?


I guess that would be you (and I do know what an agp slot is 😉)




Tom



 
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It seems like half of you guys need a girlfriend or a hobby besides your computer.

Dell builds a great computer at a great price (if you buy at the right time).



Tom

Sure, they're fine - until something stops working. Then you have to deal with all the proprietary components and bizarre hardware mountings.

It stinks though - Dell does seem to have some good deals on PC's. I just wish they'd use more standard parts, as well as fewer extra useless programs that load at startup.

Oh, and your estimate of half is probably optimistic. 😛
And I do have hobbies. Right now, I'm working on modifying my 2.4V Dustbuster to use 4 NiMH cells, for 4.8V, which is what the motor is rated at. Actually, "need...a hobby" might not be right. "Need help" might be more accurate.
 
Originally posted by: Jeff7
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It seems like half of you guys need a girlfriend or a hobby besides your computer.

Dell builds a great computer at a great price (if you buy at the right time).



Tom

Sure, they're fine - until something stops working. Then you have to deal with all the proprietary components and bizarre hardware mountings.

It stinks though - Dell does seem to have some good deals on PC's. I just wish they'd use more standard parts, as well as fewer extra useless programs that load at startup.

Oh, and your estimate of half is probably optimistic. 😛
And I do have hobbies. Right now, I'm working on modifying my 2.4V Dustbuster to use 4 NiMH cells, for 4.8V, which is what the motor is rated at. Actually, "need...a hobby" might not be right. "Need help" might be more accurate.



Lol

The only real proprietary parts are the mb's and case's (what kind of geek doesn't have an extra case?)other than that your ok.

Dell does load a bunch of useless software but it only takes a minute to disable it.

I was trying to be kind with my estimate 😉, good luck with the dustbuster.


Tom
 
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It seems like half of you guys need a girlfriend or a hobbie besides your computer.

Dell builds a great computer at a great price (if you buy at the right time).



Tom

Lol, out come the personal attacks. Who needs to get out more again? People with tech knowledge or people who namecall over computers?


I guess that would be you (and I do know what an agp slot is 😉)




Tom

😕 I stayed on-topic and backed up my assertion. There is a difference between debating something and attacking someone.
 
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It seems like half of you guys need a girlfriend or a hobbie besides your computer.

Dell builds a great computer at a great price (if you buy at the right time).



Tom

Lol, out come the personal attacks. Who needs to get out more again? People with tech knowledge or people who namecall over computers?


I guess that would be you (and I do know what an agp slot is 😉)




Tom

😕 I stayed on-topic and backed up my assertion. There is a difference between debating something and attacking someone.


Perhaps if you didn't post 30X a day this wouldn't be such a touchy subject for you, pull yourself away from that keyboard and live life 🙂


Tom

 
I dont like dells because they are overpriced for what you get, and I like building comps myself. But, I tell all my friends who dont know anything about comps to get a Dell because I hate being the free tech support guy when their "router doesnt work" etc....
 
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Budmantom
Originally posted by: Gurck
Originally posted by: Budmantom
It seems like half of you guys need a girlfriend or a hobbie besides your computer.

Dell builds a great computer at a great price (if you buy at the right time).



Tom

Lol, out come the personal attacks. Who needs to get out more again? People with tech knowledge or people who namecall over computers?


I guess that would be you (and I do know what an agp slot is 😉)




Tom

😕 I stayed on-topic and backed up my assertion. There is a difference between debating something and attacking someone.


Perhaps if you didn't post 30X a day this wouldn't be such a touchy subject for you, pull yourself away from that keyboard and live life 🙂


Tom

Classic case of projection, someone who posts on a tech board insulting people for posting on tech boards... who're you really talking to here?
 
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