Why firefox sucks

[James3shin]

The only thing that annoys me about Firefox is not being able to view WMV streams in a browser, for example at IGNPC/PS2/Xbox/GC I would have to save the movie to my d.top to view the movie. Otherwise its a pretty nice browser. Im still on my IE albeit, its guarded by like 3 to 4 different anti-spyware programs.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Amused
Nothing I have experienced with XP leads me to believe it is less stable than 2K. But everything I have seen leads me to believe it's more user friendly and compatible.

Not to go off-topic, but "user friendly" in XP means "n00b friendly" which means less power user friendly. That's not something I'm interested in.
As for stability, do you know anyone who uses XP that came make a similar claim of an OS surviving multiple upgrades that I just did?

 

[jvarszegi]

I'm not a religious zealot. I have to use both Firefox and IE some of the time (to verify web-page usability at work). I think that what a lot of people don't understand is the long-standing frustration of many who looked on for years as Microsoft was allowed to monopolize unfairly in many areas, which included the crushing of Netscape as a corporate entity. What most people also fail to realize is this: the fact that Firefox now represents an entirely non-negligible installed base of users means that Microsoft now cannot for the first time even think of following through with its original plan of pushing everything on the Internet in the direction of their grand vision, a Windows-only browser tightly integrated with Windows-only servers.

Firefox doesn't perfectly conform to W3C standards, although that's one of its design goals. Keep in mind, though, that even high-quality software of any complexity always has a few bugs. Withouth Firefox and Opera, Microsoft would've been free to throw its muscle around to warp "standards" into its own proprietary model. Remember J++, the illegally tweaked version of Java? Why did Microsoft feel the need to invent JScript, so close to the already standard and dominant Javascript but still different (or, for that matter, VBScript)? Think about the answer to that last question, and you'll begin to see the truth.

 

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: SampSon
Maxathon providing everything you tout as a need that only FF provides, for free, using the IE core.

So.... ? Am I supposed to be loyal to IE?
If it's supposed to be about loyalty, then I used Netscape long before I ever used IE, primarily because IE before IE4 sucked balls.

Has nothing to do with loyalty, and everything to do with zealotry(not on your part).

It has to do with everyone bitching about how IE doesn't do the things FF can do. Then the IE users retorting with the fact that not all pages display properly in IE or other things not working properly.

Maxathon gives you all the benefits of FF, with the IE core so everything works properly.

I can honestly give a sh!t less what you do personally. But I'm sick of people talking amazing amounts of sh!t, while not having a clue what is out there.
I personally use both browsers because I have tools online that only work with IE.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: xEDIT409
When that new version of FF came out last year, I was using Opera, and I thought, eh what the hell, let's see check this FF out, right?

DEAR GOD, WHAT WAS I THINKING. I'M SORRY BELOVED OPERA. NEVER AGAIN.

I made this thread listing my reasons why, and here is why Opera imho is better than FF.



1. Scrolling isn't as smooth. If FF has smooth scrolling, then opera has SILKY SOFT SMOOOTHY SCROLLING. Just something my eyes seem notice. It might just be me. Oh and I KNOW I turned on Smooth Scrolling too in FF options, and it still didn't seem right to me.

2. When you middle click with your Mouse wheel to scroll, the little round arrow icon thingy wingy stays with the mouse, where-as in opera, it locks in the middle and you move your mouse up and down to scroll. This is better imo.

3. When closing a tab in opera with the mouse wheel, you don't need to let go of the wheel to have it close. Whereas in FF, you have to click and release to have it Close. It's a small problem, but it's big enough to make me feel like my life will fall apart.

4. My right arm feels like it's gonna go numb when I use FF.

5. In opera, you can hit CTRL+Z to undo the closing of a tab. There is an extension for this in FF, but you can't use CTRL Z with it. You have to right click on empty space, and select "undo tab close". BUT in Opera, What's even cooler is that not only is your tab back from the dead, all the other pages you viewed on the tab before you closed it are there too! It's crazy!

Although these are small gripes, they are enough to fill me with burning rage.

I totally agree. I think Opera is a much better product from the get-go than Firefox. Opera really is much more flexible and customizable than FF. In order for Firefox to even be on the same level you need to get a few dozen plugins.

That being said I think Firefox is a good browser, sure as hell is better than IE. Anything is better than IE. I just think Opera is superior to FF.

 

[JetBlack69]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: JetBlack69

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Vic
I use FF because I hate popups (just like everyone else does). FF has a built-in popup blocker that actually blocks 99.9% of all popups. IE requires the use of a 3rd party popup blocker, most of which are only about 75% effective. I believe that the reason that IE is so open to popups is because some many major sites (CNN, you name it, etc.) use popups for ad revenue and MS doesn't want to step on that even though popups are probably the most hated thing on the internet.
Therefore IMO, FF > IE. It's that simple.

You are aware that XP SP2 included a built in popup blocker for IE, right?

Guess not.

That came in SP2.

I know. That's what I said. See my quote? ^^^

I think it's rather obvious that I didn't .

 

[StageLeft]

Firefox is crap. I agree entirely.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Amused
Nothing I have experienced with XP leads me to believe it is less stable than 2K. But everything I have seen leads me to believe it's more user friendly and compatible.

Not to go off-topic, but "user friendly" in XP means "n00b friendly" which means less power user friendly. That's not something I'm interested in.
As for stability, do you know anyone who uses XP that came make a similar claim of an OS surviving multiple upgrades that I just did?

Word.

I still use Win2K pro and I am going to stick with it as long as I possibly can. I did something very similar to what you did. I installed a new motherboard, new CPU and new video card and was able to retain the same install of Win2K. Obviously I had to install the new drivers but that was it. I just tried it hoping it would work, and it did just fine. Perhaps XP would have performed just as well, but as it stands now there is no reason to replace what isn't broken. Not to mention I would rather not shell out the money for XP if I can avoid it.

 

[WHipLAsh13]

Originally posted by: gabemcg
[Idiot]Internet Explorer IS better[/Idiot]

The idiot tag doesn't show up for me in firefox

 

[intogamer]

umm your homepage is a porno site.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Amused
Nothing I have experienced with XP leads me to believe it is less stable than 2K. But everything I have seen leads me to believe it's more user friendly and compatible.

Not to go off-topic, but "user friendly" in XP means "n00b friendly" which means less power user friendly. That's not something I'm interested in.
As for stability, do you know anyone who uses XP that came make a similar claim of an OS surviving multiple upgrades that I just did?

Well, I've upgraded lots of things, including a mobo on the GF's 850i based system without having to reinstall.

And I don't think I'm a noob... But I have found XP to be more compatable with some software (games, mostly) and just easier to live with.

 

[EpsiIon]

Until FireFox allows you to change its New Window behavior (that is, it allows me to load my current page in the new window instead of my home page), I won't even consider it. Let me know when this changes.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Amused
Nothing I have experienced with XP leads me to believe it is less stable than 2K. But everything I have seen leads me to believe it's more user friendly and compatible.

Not to go off-topic, but "user friendly" in XP means "n00b friendly" which means less power user friendly. That's not something I'm interested in.
As for stability, do you know anyone who uses XP that came make a similar claim of an OS surviving multiple upgrades that I just did?

i'm not convinced that is true... you might have to tweak some settings in order to get XP as power user friendly as 2k, but if you're a power user, that shouldn't be a problem, right?

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: EpsiIon
Until FireFox allows you to change its New Window behavior (that is, it allows me to load my current page in the new window instead of my home page), I won't even consider it. Let me know when this changes.

it changed, there was an extension mentioned earlier in this thread that gives it that behavior

 

[NightCrawler]

Maxthon
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Maxthon

PS: I've never had a machine die because of virus/spyware. I just don't get how people get virus/spyware on their machine.

PSS: The content filter is much better on Maxthon then FF, I will continue to look for a extension that removes ads on webpages.

 

Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon

PS: I've never had a machine die because of virus/spyware. I just don't get how people get virus/spyware on their machine.

PSS: The content filter is much better on Maxthon then FF, I will continue to look for a extension that removes ads on webpages.

I always post this in these FF vs IE threads. No one seems to want to pay attention.
They MUST know better than I.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Amused
Nothing I have experienced with XP leads me to believe it is less stable than 2K. But everything I have seen leads me to believe it's more user friendly and compatible.

Not to go off-topic, but "user friendly" in XP means "n00b friendly" which means less power user friendly. That's not something I'm interested in.
As for stability, do you know anyone who uses XP that came make a similar claim of an OS surviving multiple upgrades that I just did?

well... maybe not as many mobos... but i had an xp installation that started on a via kt266a with geforce 3 and ended up on an nforce2 with radeon 9800pro... it was just as fast benching quake 3 as the 'new' install where it wasn't overwriting old drivers. it went through 4 processor upgrades and other various upgrades, but the chipset and gfx card are the only ones that are supposed to be 'iffy' when using the same install.

 

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Amused
Nothing I have experienced with XP leads me to believe it is less stable than 2K. But everything I have seen leads me to believe it's more user friendly and compatible.

Not to go off-topic, but "user friendly" in XP means "n00b friendly" which means less power user friendly. That's not something I'm interested in.
As for stability, do you know anyone who uses XP that came make a similar claim of an OS surviving multiple upgrades that I just did?

well... maybe not as many mobos... but i had an xp installation that started on a via kt266a with geforce 3 and ended up on an nforce2 with radeon 9800pro... it was just as fast benching quake 3 as the 'new' install where it wasn't overwriting old drivers. it went through 4 processor upgrades and other various upgrades, but the chipset and gfx card are the only ones that are supposed to be 'iffy' when using the same install.

I'm a hardcore win2k user. Though I do have a couple legit XP pro machines.

I have done as much to my XP machines as I have to my 2000 machines, they all took it in stride.
I had a mobo die on both, as a result I upgraded everything from the memory, to the processor. I just plopped them into each machine and booted up, both took without a hitch.

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon

PS: I've never had a machine die because of virus/spyware. I just don't get how people get virus/spyware on their machine.

PSS: The content filter is much better on Maxthon then FF, I will continue to look for a extension that removes ads on webpages.

I always post this in these FF vs IE threads. No one seems to want to pay attention.
They MUST know better than I.

Question: How do I get Maxthon to open a new tab using CTRL +T? And to get it to undo close tab using the middle mouse button? And to stop using Autoscroll when I middle click? And how do I get rid of those icons, like the New Window, Encoding, Full Screen, etc...

 

[artikk]

Firefox doesn't suck compared to spyware infested insecure, hackerwise, Internet Explorer. period.

 

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon

PS: I've never had a machine die because of virus/spyware. I just don't get how people get virus/spyware on their machine.

PSS: The content filter is much better on Maxthon then FF, I will continue to look for a extension that removes ads on webpages.

I always post this in these FF vs IE threads. No one seems to want to pay attention.
They MUST know better than I.

Question: How do I get Maxthon to open a new tab using CTRL +T? And to get it to undo close tab using the middle mouse button? And to stop using Autoscroll when I middle click? And how do I get rid of those icons, like the New Window, Encoding, Full Screen, etc...

RTFM. Or figure it out for yourself.

 

[plastick]

Originally posted by: UnixFreak
Here is an article I wrote about why firefox sucks. I don't want to post all the text in here, so here's the link

Why firefox sucks


Looking back, I should title it "why firefox users suck" but oh well. What are your thoughts? Am I wrong about this?

LOLOLOLOL!!


Personally, I got firefox to see what all the buzz was about, but found nothing I liked.. So I just went back to IE.

Occasionally I fire up Opera.

 

[OulOat]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon

PS: I've never had a machine die because of virus/spyware. I just don't get how people get virus/spyware on their machine.

PSS: The content filter is much better on Maxthon then FF, I will continue to look for a extension that removes ads on webpages.

I always post this in these FF vs IE threads. No one seems to want to pay attention.
They MUST know better than I.

Question: How do I get Maxthon to open a new tab using CTRL +T? And to get it to undo close tab using the middle mouse button? And to stop using Autoscroll when I middle click? And how do I get rid of those icons, like the New Window, Encoding, Full Screen, etc...

RTFM. Or figure it out for yourself.

Attitude like that ain't going to help your cause of trying to get FF users to switch.

In any case, it's a lot more frustrating to trying to get rid of crap that you don't want than looking for stuff that you do. FF > Maxthon

Edit:
Finally found how to get rid of those system buttons. Still looking to find how to get rid of the extra search (search all and highlight) and address bar (go) buttons.

 

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: OulOat

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon
Maxthon

PS: I've never had a machine die because of virus/spyware. I just don't get how people get virus/spyware on their machine.

PSS: The content filter is much better on Maxthon then FF, I will continue to look for a extension that removes ads on webpages.

I always post this in these FF vs IE threads. No one seems to want to pay attention.
They MUST know better than I.

Question: How do I get Maxthon to open a new tab using CTRL +T? And to get it to undo close tab using the middle mouse button? And to stop using Autoscroll when I middle click? And how do I get rid of those icons, like the New Window, Encoding, Full Screen, etc...

RTFM. Or figure it out for yourself.

Attitude like that ain't going to help your cause of trying to get FF users to switch.

In any case, it's a lot more frustrating to trying to get rid of crap that you don't want than looking for stuff that you do. FF > Maxthon

I don't care if you switch or not, I just like to diffuse kiddies little zealot ridden ideals. Not all programs have the exact same commands utilized the exact same way. You should know that if you've used a computer longer than 3 months.
It probably boils down to you being a complete noob who couldn't configure his way out of a paper bag.

 

Edit:
Finally found how to get rid of those system buttons. Still looking to find how to get rid of the extra search (search all and highlight) and address bar (go) buttons.

Right click on the tool bar > customize toolbars.
Same as IE.