Why dumb people should not vote - Washington votes no to GMO labeling

Texashiker

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A basic human right to know what we are eating has been voted down by the people of Washington state.

Early surveys showed 66 percent of the people were in favor of the law.

After dumping millions of dollars in advertising by the opposition, the approval rate dropped to 46 percent.

A republic only works when we have an educated voting populace. If we do not even know what we are eating, there is no hope for anything else.

http://rt.com/usa/washington-no-gmo-labeling-282/
 

nehalem256

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Good. GMO labeling is nothing more than fear mongering.

Maybe we should start requiring bottled water to be labeled with a big sticker on the front that says "Contains Dihdydrogen-Monoxide!!!!!"
 

Doppel

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Good. GMO labeling is nothing more than fear mongering.

Maybe we should start requiring bottled water to be labeled with a big sticker on the front that says "Contains Dihdydrogen-Monoxide!!!!!"
That is the same as water, so it would be redundant. GMO food is not exactly the same as non-GMO, so it isn't. Whether it is information consumers need to know is a different question, but I don't find the comparison valid.

There's a reason why EU, for example, has GMO labeling laws.
 

drebo

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If you want to know what you're eating, grow and cook your own food.

Otherwise, the above poster is correct...GMO labeling is fear mongering.
 

Texashiker

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Good. GMO labeling is nothing more than fear mongering.

Maybe we should start requiring bottled water to be labeled with a big sticker on the front that says "Contains Dihdydrogen-Monoxide!!!!!"

Otherwise, the above poster is correct...GMO labeling is fear mongering.

Should companies be allowed to not label the products they produce?

Maybe generic steaks wrapped in a white label? You do not know whether it is pork, beef, horse, sheep, goat, moose, elk, buffalo, kangaroo,,,,,,,.
 

nehalem256

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That is the same as water, so it would be redundant. GMO food is not exactly the same as non-GMO, so it isn't. Whether it is information consumers need to know is a different question, but I don't find the comparison valid.

Why don't you want people to know what they are drinking? They have a right to know!!!!!!!!:cool:

There's a reason why EU, for example, has GMO labeling laws.

I already said what that reason is. Fear-mongering.
 

brycejones

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Instead of bitching about the voters why don't you complain about what apparently changed the dynamics of the race? Unlimited money spent by issue groups who most likely received most of their money from corporations with a stake in the outcome.

It would be interesting to see some of the advertising that was run.....
 

nehalem256

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Should companies be allowed to not label the products they produce?

Maybe generic steaks wrapped in a white label? You do not know whether it is pork, beef, horse, sheep, goat, moose, elk, buffalo, kangaroo,,,,,,,.

They should be required to label it with relevant information. GMO is not relevant information.

Should they have to label their steak with the name of the cow? And how old it was when slaughtered? Perhaps companies should have to include a picture of the cow on the package? The people have a right to see what they are eating!!!!! :colbert:
 

Texashiker

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I think I am going to produce a generic ground meat.

Maybe visit the local animal shelters for dogs and cats, maybe add in a few raccoons and opossums?

When people demand to know what they are eating, I will just accuse them of fear mongering.

Ground meat is ground meat, so what if it comes from rats, dogs, cats, or cows?
 

drebo

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Should companies be allowed to not label the products they produce?

Maybe generic steaks wrapped in a white label? You do not know whether it is pork, beef, horse, sheep, goat, moose, elk, buffalo, kangaroo,,,,,,,.

Are you really that dumb or are you just trolling?

Labeling the type and cut of meat is a selling point. Tri-tip is more expensive than a chuck roast, so it behooves the market to label it as such.

Being required to state that the cow the tri-tip came from was fed with GMO grass (you know, grass that might be designed to grow faster and have more vitamins) is nothing but fear mongering, unless that particular grass is shown to have a negative effect on the cow...at which point, the FDA will have already barred its use. The labeling is nothing but bullshit.

And your analogy does not apply because it's not the same fucking thing.
 

drebo

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I think I am going to produce a generic ground meat.

Maybe visit the local animal shelters for dogs and cats, maybe add in a few raccoons and opossums?

When people demand to know what they are eating, I will just accuse them of fear mongering.

Ground meat is ground meat, so what if it comes from rats, dogs, cats, or cows?

You're a fucking moron. How do you even breathe?

You claim to be a fucking conservative and yet you still want the government to tell you what to eat, how much money you can make, and what to spend it on.

You are a neocon and you are what is wrong with this country, even more than the progressives. They at least do it out of some misguided attempt at charity. You do it just because you think your morals are superior to everyone else's.
 

drebo

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You know brisket comes from a cow right?

Why shouldn't that knowledge apply to all of your food?.

Because it's not the same thing, you dunce.

As stated, the cut and type of meat is an important selling point because some cuts are better than others and some meats taste different. Goat is very different from lamb and lamb is very different from beef. Yet all are valid types of meat to eat and lots of people eat all three kinds.

Can you show a difference between the beef that was fed with GMO feed and the one that wasn't? No. So shut the fuck up.


I just want to know what I am eating.

I already gave you the solution: grow and cook it yourself.
 

Linflas

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You know brisket comes from a cow right?

Why shouldn't that knowledge apply to all of your food?




I just want to know what I am eating.

So take some responsibility and research the food you buy before you buy it and eat it, what you want is not the "right to know what I am eating" rather the right to force the burden of telling you what you are eating on another entity.
 

Texashiker

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I already gave you the solution: grow and cook it yourself.

Would you buy a car or truck without knowing the details? Type of motor, diesel or gas, stereo, AC/heater,,,,? If you asked about the details and the car sales person told you you were fear mongering, how would you feel?

Would you buy a home without knowing the details? Asking for a termite inspection is fear mongering.

Would you take medicine without knowing what you are taking?

But for some reason what we put in our mouth is held to a different standard?


So take some responsibility and research the food you buy before you buy it and eat it,

The people of Washington said they do not need to know.
 

lupi

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Haven't heard anything yet about stuff in produce and related products that would make me care about labeling. Meat and other manufactured foods though would probably be better off removing some of the stuff being directly or indirectly inserted in to them.
 
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They voted correctly. Labeling something that isn't harmful creates the impression that it is harmful. The push for labeling GMOs is fear mongering and ignorance.

On a side note, I think I might start marketing "Asbestos Free" Cereal.
 

Texashiker

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They voted correctly. Labeling something that isn't harmful creates the impression that it is harmful. The push for labeling GMOs is fear mongering and ignorance.

Such as labeling common foods?

Ever read the back of a bag of chips?

I have a powerade bottle I use as a water bottle on my desk. Surely the pyridoxine hydrochlotide that was in the powerade is dangerous?
 

nehalem256

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Would you buy a car or truck without knowing the details? Type of motor, diesel or gas, stereo, AC/heater,,,,? If you asked about the details and the car sales person told you you were fear mongering, how would you feel?

What kind of steel is your truck made from?
 
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Such as labeling common foods?

Ever read the back of a bag of chips?

I have a powerade bottle I use as a water bottle on my desk. Surely the pyridoxine hydrochlotide that was in the powerade is dangerous?

An ingredients list is not the same thing.
 

xBiffx

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Basic human right garbage thread ftfl.

This would have been nothing more than a complete waste of money as knowing this information changes nothing about the content of the food or its effect on you.

Potato chips cooked in GMO corn oil are no more harmful than ones that are cooked in non GMO corn oil. Hell the fact that a person eating potato chips is worried about adverse effects of their ingredients or what they are cooked in is completely fucking laughable.

Currently ingredients are listed on all foods. No mention of where they come from. Why? Because it doesn't change anything. There is nothing significant about where those ingredients come from with respect to the nutritional value or health concerns for that food.
 
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