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Why don't we American's just isolate ourselfs and let the world fend for themself's??

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Kaieye

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Why don't we just recall our troops and build a strong defense to protect America?? Let Taiwan, So. Korea and Isreal defend themself's?? Let's use the cash we save to payoff our defecit instead of screwing our next generation??
 
Originally posted by: Kaieye
Why don't we just recall our troops and build a strong defense to protect America?? Let Taiwan, So. Korea and Isreal defend themself's?? Let's use the cash we save to payoff our defecit instead of screwing our next generation??
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Radioactive fallout travels across the oceans.

 
The world economy is just that, a world economy. Do you have any idea of how many of the items you use on a day to day basis aren't made in the USA?
 
I say the U.S. should withdraw from the U.N. and turn the sell the U.N. headquarters to a private company. We don't need the retarded U.N. damnit!
 
Originally posted by: CallTheFBI
I say the U.S. should withdraw from the U.N. and turn the sell the U.N. headquarters to a private company. We don't need the retarded U.N. damnit!
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Do you even know what U.N. stands for?

 
israel is one of our few friends.

also, withdrawing will only guarantee the efflorescense of terrorism. eventually some terroristic elements would seep into the us and blow us all to kingdom come. but yeah, the whole economic thing is big too.
 
Originally posted by: CallTheFBI
I say the U.S. should withdraw from the U.N. and turn the sell the U.N. headquarters to a private company. We don't need the retarded U.N. damnit!
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Lets get out of NATO too! Who needs Europe? If they wont see things the way we do screw em. That will teach them a lesson.
 
Hey,

I was born in Seoul S. Korea and as far as i'm concerned we can just leave the S.Korean Defense to them. just sell them equipment we got over there now, it's really only the american equipment there that is significant, our 38k troops over there won't determine who wins the war, it just works as a deterent to NKorea so that they don't attack preemptively, but Let S korea take care of it's own border.

but, you know why we don't, if we leave korea than Japan will demand to be allowed to arm themselves and China won't just Let that happen. Unfortunately.
 
Maybe I should rephrase the question to isolate ourselves militarily but not economically. I am aware about the world economy being interconnected but it is time we let some of our allies armed themself's using their own $$$. Did someone mention that Isreal is our friend?? Didn't Isreal sink the USS Liberty?? I don't remember any Muslim groups or the PLO sinking an American ship, ever??
 
Originally posted by: Kaieye
Maybe I should rephrase the question to isolate ourselves militarily but not economically. I am aware about the world economy being interconnected but it is time we let some of our allies armed themself's using their own $$$. Did someone mention that Isreal is our friend?? Didn't Isreal sink the USS Liberty?? I don't remember any Muslim groups or the PLO sinking an American ship, ever??
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USS Cole, they sure as hell tried.

The Liberty while there is still debate over it was found to be accidental.
 
I think the majority of Americans are isolationist at heart. As long as world events don't bother them, or they don't know about them, they really don't care. Sure, everyone's all hugging each other over 9/11, but if you polled the population over whether or not they'd send their children or themselves (depending on age group) overseas to fight, I doubt many would be willing.

Just taking a look at voter turnout should convince most people that Americans care little for what goes on outside the home. It is due to that indifference that politics has become what it is today with minority (as compared to the population) lobby groups wielding large influences at all levels of government. Americans in general just don't feel like getting off the sofa to be active in helping determine the future of the country. I mean, just look at the AARP, which enough political clout based on votes alone that it rivals big business.

So, in answer to the topic, Americans are already isolationist. Given an extended conflict with a large number of casualties, it would only be a matter of time before the population clamors for a recall of overseas troops. This is Suddam's greatest weapon in that if he can inflict a large number of casualties on invading troops via biological or nuclear means, Americans will eventually become sick of war and lose the will to fight. The U.S. incurred about a million casualties in World War II and the country pretty much stomached the pain. Vietnam resulted in about 200 thousand casualties with a lower average killed per day and still resulted in an entire movement.

There are reasons for the drop in enlistment over the years and the emphasis of the U.S. military of quality smart weapons over large numbers of dumb weapons.
 
Why don't we American's just isolate ourselves and let the world fend for themselves?? <-------fixed gramatical error italicized.

Because if we did, we'd end up having to fight the world eventually. Someone somewhere in some country would find a way to dominate the other countries in europe, go on a war of conquest and win. Then they'd turn their collective attention to us, and we'd have to kick their ass back to whatever stone-age they forgot they worked their way out of previously.

Its just the way it is.
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Why don't we American's just isolate ourselfs and let the world fend for themself's??

Because we would end up drinking beer and watching hocky :Q.........., 😛.
 
We tried that during the first part of the 20th century. But it wasn't until all of Europe was being threatened by Germany that we finally attacked. How many lives would've been saved if we had been proactive?
 
its cause of globalization... the economic system of nations are connected to events across the globe, isolationism would not help.
 
And those god dam Canadians? Let's build a big wall between the two countries.
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We already tried it and it didn't work...get out your history books youngster.....
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Exactly, well said.

We did that once, and the world went to hell in a hand basket, resulting in barbarians at our gate twice, or nearly at our gate. At least it did in Europe, which has been a hotbed of dangerous ideologies and movements for a couple hundred years. Smaller 'fires' all over the world during the same time, but nothing to the degree and threat of Europe.

It's easy, too easy, to point to the 'bad' which might have been done by the US since you can't prove a negative of what did not happen because of the US.
 
Originally posted by: Jmman
We already tried it and it didn't work...get out your history books youngster.....🙂
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yes, woodrow wilson tried the isolationist route

then the lusitania was sunk, and then german subs sank eight more american ocean liners before he changed his mind
 
The original poster never said anything about not trading with anybody. Just stop using our men and women to do the job of what other countries should be doing and all those countries bitch at us if we do. We're damned if we do, damned if we don't. Take our canadian nieghbors to the north, they are want to see justice happen to two fighter pilots who accidently killed some canadians in Afghanistan. It was a accident in a wartime environment, get the hell over it. Just stupid sh!t like that get me so pissed. We need to back our military out from every location. If our borders aren't directly involved in conflict we should not give a damn. Someone tries something, we have missiles with nukes attached to them.

KK
 
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