why don't they use nuke subs as mobile generators?

OrganizedChaos

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60,000 horsepower *763 = over 45Mw/Hr

seriously, instead of costing the economy millions everytime cali. has a rolling blackout why can't Bush just bring a couple subs home and plug them into the grid.
 

XZeroII

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It's like separating business and pleasure. You don't mix military and civilian stuff.
 

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Have you never seen environmentalists protest against Nuclear power plants? if we were to plug in war machines powered by nuclear reactions, all hell would break loose. The funny thing is, environmentalists don't realize that nuclear reactors are more environmental friendly than the fossil fuel plants.
 

Jfrag Teh Foul

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Originally posted by: KraziKid
Have you never seen environmentalists protest against Nuclear power plants? if we were to plug in war machines powered by nuclear reactions, all hell would break loose. The funny thing is, environmentalists don't realize that nuclear reactors are more environmental friendly than the fossil fuel plants.



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Originally posted by: KraziKid
Have you never seen environmentalists protest against Nuclear power plants? if we were to plug in war machines powered by nuclear reactions, all hell would break loose. The funny thing is, environmentalists don't realize that nuclear reactors are more environmental friendly than the fossil fuel plants.

That, and the fact that they also protest the drilling for oil. I wonder where they want us to get our energy.
 

EyeMWing

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Naval power is DIRTY AS HELL. The 120vAC that you get on a naval vessel is NEVER anywhere near 120v, and NEVER anywhere near a sine-wave. I know someone that took a dual Opteron engineering sample machine with him when he got deployed. AMD ended up replacing the entire sample system.

The changes required to the electrical system aboard the boat would essentially restrict you from EVER using it again.
 

tw1164

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plus they would have to buy power plug adapters...and no one wants to do that
 

nick1985

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
60,000 horsepower *763 = over 45Mw/Hr

seriously, instead of costing the economy millions everytime cali. has a rolling blackout why can't Bush just bring a couple subs home and plug them into the grid.

running out of reasons to flame bush?
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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Naval power is DIRTY AS HELL. The 120vAC that you get on a naval vessel is NEVER anywhere near 120v, and NEVER anywhere near a sine-wave. I know someone that took a dual Opteron engineering sample machine with him when he got deployed. AMD ended up replacing the entire sample system.

The changes required to the electrical system aboard the boat would essentially restrict you from EVER using it again.

This guy must have been pretty high up to take a machine that big on board a sub. Don't they tend to be a bit cramped?
 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Naval power is DIRTY AS HELL. The 120vAC that you get on a naval vessel is NEVER anywhere near 120v, and NEVER anywhere near a sine-wave. I know someone that took a dual Opteron engineering sample machine with him when he got deployed. AMD ended up replacing the entire sample system.

The changes required to the electrical system aboard the boat would essentially restrict you from EVER using it again.

This guy must have been pretty high up to take a machine that big on board a sub. Don't they tend to be a bit cramped?

Not a sub. Destroyer. Same general power plant, though.
 

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Naval power is DIRTY AS HELL. The 120vAC that you get on a naval vessel is NEVER anywhere near 120v, and NEVER anywhere near a sine-wave. I know someone that took a dual Opteron engineering sample machine with him when he got deployed. AMD ended up replacing the entire sample system.

The changes required to the electrical system aboard the boat would essentially restrict you from EVER using it again.

Nothing a power conditioner can't fix.

We had to condition the power on the ship I was on to make anything work.
 

LAUST

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What needs to happen is all the Democrats aginst nuke power need to get educated on why Chernobyl's accident happened, and the HUGE differences between the way the US does it and the Soviets did it. Wake them up so we can get done with all this damn coal crap.
 

That, and the fact that they also protest the drilling for oil. I wonder where they want us to get our energy.
THE SUN ANd THE TREES AND THE NATURE MAAAAAN. ;)

running out of reasons to flame bush?
Run out? There is enough material to flame him well into next century.

Nothing a power conditioner can't fix.

We had to condition the power on the ship I was on to make anything work.
Exactly. Which is why eyemwing's post is BS.


 

EyeMWing

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Originally posted by: SampSon
That, and the fact that they also protest the drilling for oil. I wonder where they want us to get our energy.
THE SUN ANd THE TREES AND THE NATURE MAAAAAN. ;)

running out of reasons to flame bush?
Run out? There is enough material to flame him well into next century.

Nothing a power conditioner can't fix.

We had to condition the power on the ship I was on to make anything work.
Exactly. Which is why eyemwing's post is BS.

It's not BS if you're talking about directly porting the ship's electrical systems into the power grid. But if you're willing to spend the time, effort and money to properly condition the power before adding it to the supply, just freaking reactivate one of the dozens of disabled nuclear reactors laying around the state of California. The equipment is already there - USE IT{/B]
 

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Have you never seen environmentalists protest against Nuclear power plants? if we were to plug in war machines powered by nuclear reactions, all hell would break loose. The funny thing is, environmentalists don't realize that nuclear reactors are more environmental friendly than the fossil fuel plants.

That, and the fact that they also protest the drilling for oil. I wonder where they want us to get our energy.

Well, if we some how harnessed the power of their collective whinning and bitching...
 

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Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Have you never seen environmentalists protest against Nuclear power plants? if we were to plug in war machines powered by nuclear reactions, all hell would break loose. The funny thing is, environmentalists don't realize that nuclear reactors are more environmental friendly than the fossil fuel plants.

That, and the fact that they also protest the drilling for oil. I wonder where they want us to get our energy.

Windpower. Oh wait... they protest that too because migrating birds get chopped in half.
 

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It's not BS if you're talking about directly porting the ship's electrical systems into the power grid. But if you're willing to spend the time, effort and money to properly condition the power before adding it to the supply, just freaking reactivate one of the dozens of disabled nuclear reactors laying around the state of California. The equipment is already there - USE IT{/B]

So you're suggesting that we dock a nuclear submarine and run the reactors at full power to run the generators onboard and using shorepower feed the power back to the grid?? I don't know how many MW a nuke sub can generate but I know it's not enough to power a small city. Also, most of the equipment on a sub uses DC and not AC. The crew would probably be jumping for joy because they don't have to go to sea.
 

Howard

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Originally posted by: YingYang
60,000 horsepower *763 = over 45Mw/Hr

Are you smoking dope or something??? You can't convert the 60,000 HP that the propellers generate into 45Mw/hour.
Right. You can, however, convert HP to kW (MW, whatever).

I'm still wondering why we don't build more CANDU nuclear fission reactors. Reactors of that type have NEVER had any accidents.
 

YingYang

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My car is rated at 150 HP but I can't generate 114 Kw/hr to run the electricity in my house.

150 HP * 763W/HP = 114 Kw/hr.
 

Trevelyan

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Man, you guys need to understand that nuclear energy is not the ultimate clean energy source. Ever heard of nuclear waste?

"The atomic industry would have us believe that nuclear energy is the only renewable solution to the climate problem. However, after close consideration this claim has been shown to be hollow. The objective of the Clean Development Mechanism is to get wealthy countries to invest in clean energy sources in developing countries, in order to reduce carbon dioxide emissions. Nuclear energy has no business there.

Nuclear energy is not renewable
Uranium ore is needed to feed nuclear power stations, and one day uranium, like fossil fuels, will have been used up. And when they're gone, they will be gone for ever.

Nuclear energy produces radioactivity
Although nuclear energy emits less carbon dioxide, it releases life-threatening radioactive substances into the environment.

Nuclear energy is not CO2-free
Although nuclear power stations emit little CO2, the entire nuclear energy chain produces at least a third as much carbon dioxide as a modern gas-fired power station does.

Nuclear energy is expensive
Nuclear energy costs more per KW/hour than the alternatives. Added to this, the energy recovery time is very long compared to other energy sources. It takes a great deal of energy to produce nuclear energy."

SOURCE: Stichting GroenLinks in the European Union, LINK
 

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Originally posted by: EyeMWing
Naval power is DIRTY AS HELL. The 120vAC that you get on a naval vessel is NEVER anywhere near 120v, and NEVER anywhere near a sine-wave. I know someone that took a dual Opteron engineering sample machine with him when he got deployed. AMD ended up replacing the entire sample system.

The changes required to the electrical system aboard the boat would essentially restrict you from EVER using it again.

I spent Six long years as a Navy Nuke and Now I have been working in a Civialian Nuclear station and that is not true at all. All Navy essential equipment and Reactor Protection circuits use regulated 120V power NOT 115v-125v as you would say.
And I am sure the ships weapon and defense systems would also need a stable power supply.

This is coming from experince from D1G, D2W experience.
 

DorkBoy

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Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos
60,000 horsepower *763 = over 45Mw/Hr

seriously, instead of costing the economy millions everytime cali. has a rolling blackout why can't Bush just bring a couple subs home and plug them into the grid.

The NRC regulates Civilian Nuclear staions but does not directly regulate the U.S. Navy. The civilian are far more well protected then military.

 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
Originally posted by: FallenHero
Originally posted by: KraziKid
Have you never seen environmentalists protest against Nuclear power plants? if we were to plug in war machines powered by nuclear reactions, all hell would break loose. The funny thing is, environmentalists don't realize that nuclear reactors are more environmental friendly than the fossil fuel plants.

That, and the fact that they also protest the drilling for oil. I wonder where they want us to get our energy.

Windpower. Oh wait... they protest that too because migrating birds get chopped in half.

Environmentalists don't seem to know what the fsck they want. Perhaps they'll be happy only when we're back to the hunter-gatherer stage, chucking spears at melons for food..