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Why don't some ebay sellers offer combined shipping?
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also, it can get as technical as there is a seperation bewteen shipping costs (actual charge from say USPS) and handling costs. unless specifically noted in the auction, shipping and hadnling are usually ONE charge or a single fee, but they can just as easily be seperated.
So thus, the "shipping" charge does not always include the handling costs.
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
True, I shouldn't have assumed. My bad, I wasn't aware that was how things worked and now I am (thanks to those who kindly helped/informed me, vs. those who took it as another opportunity to personally bash me... people make mistakes, it happens and they learn from them).
Lesson learned for future reference, gracias.
Lesson learned for future reference, gracias.
One thing about it.....getting an Ebay ID is easy enough.....trolls
do it over and over again 🙂
The thing to have done would have to honored the bids and paid the shipping
and moved on and learned that the 1st rule of Ebay is that if it's not listed
don't assume anything.
Most of these people selling cheap items make their money on shipping and handling
charges rather than the items they sell.
I see a lot of negative feedback posts left by people who "win" items and then
want to dicker with the seller on the clearly posted shipping fees after the auction
is over.
Lesson is as in everything in life is to read the fine print (all of it) and make no
assumptions on anything.
do it over and over again 🙂
The thing to have done would have to honored the bids and paid the shipping
and moved on and learned that the 1st rule of Ebay is that if it's not listed
don't assume anything.
Most of these people selling cheap items make their money on shipping and handling
charges rather than the items they sell.
I see a lot of negative feedback posts left by people who "win" items and then
want to dicker with the seller on the clearly posted shipping fees after the auction
is over.
Lesson is as in everything in life is to read the fine print (all of it) and make no
assumptions on anything.
Mail fraud implies intent and a pattern of activity. People love to throw "mail fraud" around when they didn't get their way, without realizing that a court would not consider it anything remotely close to being so.
There's no intent to defraud if I flat out tell you that it's $6 per item and I will not offer a discount if you order multiple items, regardless of the quantity of boxes or actual postage cost. The terms are crystal clear - there is no misrepresentation here.
Again, good luck trying to pull this off.
As already mentioned: you bid, you agree to whatever's listed in the description. When I see an item I'm interested in, I ask the buyer certain questions so as to not get screwed later.
Some "Power Sellers" handle a 100+ shipments/day. They have processes to get an item shipped, and they often pre-pack an item so it's ready to go when the auction ends. Backtracking and combining your winnings would be a real PITA for them. Don't get me wrong, I think it stinks and is very frustrating. But that's just how they do it.
If your seller was not a power seller... then, I dunno.
Some "Power Sellers" handle a 100+ shipments/day. They have processes to get an item shipped, and they often pre-pack an item so it's ready to go when the auction ends. Backtracking and combining your winnings would be a real PITA for them. Don't get me wrong, I think it stinks and is very frustrating. But that's just how they do it.
If your seller was not a power seller... then, I dunno.
alkemyst
No Lifer
Here is the deal, each ebay merchant is a *private* shop. They set their own rules and not the other way around (ebay mostly has guidelines it takes a blatant act to really get something pulled down or in trouble, you can even get away with being caught shill bid 1 time).
Now most auctions state the shipping plain as day within the auction. Sure it may be more than what the stamp costs, but boxes, travel, waiting in line, tape, markers, paper, ink, etc all add up and with an auction you aren't getting the liberty of knowing your sales price each time and having the 'hard costs' built in. The debate that "shipping is a required part of the purchase" is true and not. The costs should not have to be bourne by the seller esp if by doing so they would take a loss. This 9 times out of 10 is what the buyer is hoping for....they won the item at a 'fair price' once shippng and price is considered, however the shipping was marked up to justify that. Now they are hoping to force the seller to lower the shipping end and get the item below cost....this is more dishonest than inflating the shipping cost a tad to avoid extra fees (which I dont do).
Still you can't win with most buyers if your shipping is more than the winning bid, even if you are charging actual shipping. I had many items I used to offer not to profit so much as to help someone that may need the part out...my items would sell at $1-10 or so and be a good deal, but many times these items were 5, 10, 15 or more pounds and the buyer would cry about I was out to rip them off, so now I just trash the parts.
Now as far as combining items....sometimes there are legitimate reasons. Many times larger items cannot be combined without entering an Oversize category or requiring difficult packaging. A lot of high volume shippers pre package their items and merely print off postage and send.
The bottom line you have to ask yourself is did you pay a fair price once all is said and done, and if you did (not necessarily the lowest, that is another 'ebay' misconception that all prices on ebay should be the lowest anywhere), then be happy with your items, if you didn't and the guy misrepresented something or flat out lied...then take action.
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Now most auctions state the shipping plain as day within the auction. Sure it may be more than what the stamp costs, but boxes, travel, waiting in line, tape, markers, paper, ink, etc all add up and with an auction you aren't getting the liberty of knowing your sales price each time and having the 'hard costs' built in. The debate that "shipping is a required part of the purchase" is true and not. The costs should not have to be bourne by the seller esp if by doing so they would take a loss. This 9 times out of 10 is what the buyer is hoping for....they won the item at a 'fair price' once shippng and price is considered, however the shipping was marked up to justify that. Now they are hoping to force the seller to lower the shipping end and get the item below cost....this is more dishonest than inflating the shipping cost a tad to avoid extra fees (which I dont do).
Still you can't win with most buyers if your shipping is more than the winning bid, even if you are charging actual shipping. I had many items I used to offer not to profit so much as to help someone that may need the part out...my items would sell at $1-10 or so and be a good deal, but many times these items were 5, 10, 15 or more pounds and the buyer would cry about I was out to rip them off, so now I just trash the parts.
Now as far as combining items....sometimes there are legitimate reasons. Many times larger items cannot be combined without entering an Oversize category or requiring difficult packaging. A lot of high volume shippers pre package their items and merely print off postage and send.
The bottom line you have to ask yourself is did you pay a fair price once all is said and done, and if you did (not necessarily the lowest, that is another 'ebay' misconception that all prices on ebay should be the lowest anywhere), then be happy with your items, if you didn't and the guy misrepresented something or flat out lied...then take action.
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Jay59express
Senior member
I think he is a she
PingSpike
Lifer
Computer monitors are a good example of this. An older 14in SVGA in good condition is easily worth $15. But its a heavy monitor would likely cost at least $20 to ship, often $30 in my experience when you factor in handling, etc. A 14in used monitor isn't really worth $45 to most people...so you're stuck with it. Thats why monitors are so hard to get rid of, even when they're working.
MikeyIs4Dcats
Lifer
no...you don't. That's not mail fraud.
alkemyst
No Lifer
I missed that point....people can't be this stupid. The USPS could give two craps what someone charges you for shipping, they could care less if they told you $100 and they got away with a postcard...the only thing the USPS would care about is if you didn't get what was promised or you got an illegal method of payment.
I believe somewhere on their website they mention they do not handle shipping *cost* disputes.
imported_Tomato
Diamond Member
Agreed. 🙂 My feedback before everything happened. I may create a new ID in the future, but for now I need to save money (moving into a new place, have to penny pinch) so maybe being banned for now is a good thing.
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