schizoid77
Senior member
A quadruple post...what school did you go to again?
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Why don't people care what college costs?
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PingSpike
Lifer
I agree with this. After looking around at the mess out there, it seems like becoming a plumber or an electrician is a good choice. My younger brother in law is does quite well in high school, but his plan is to become an electrician. My wife thinks he should go to college, but aside from a maybe business degree I'm not sure what purpose it would serve. He'll make decent money doing this, he likes to work with his hands and he can run his own business if he likes. Its as good a plan as any these days, and IMO, better then a lot of more touted paths to success.
sourceninja
Diamond Member
My advice is always pick the cheapest community college where your credits will transfer. Spend as much of the time there as possible and then transfer. That cuts costs.
In many places you need a degree to just get your foot in the door. The bachelors degree is very much becoming the new High school degree. Liberal Arts degrees serve the purpose of getting that checkbox filled and not getting your resume trashed immediately. From there they will want to know what experience you bring to the table ... blah blah blah.
The point I'm trying to make is this: A college degree doesn't mean instant success, but without one you are severely limiting your career opportunities.
rh71
No Lifer
my [biggest IT] company only required a 4-year degree somewhere... that's all the sealed transcript they wanted had to say... that I completed a bachelor's. They cared much more about experience (internships, etc. - and boy did I get grilled about them). Not sure how they do it now, but I was surprised to see it when I went through the process. But then you think about it and realize big companies recruit from all types of schools, not just IVY.
BoberFett
Lifer
I'm the director of IT at a medium sized company who never went to college. Started as a junior programmer and moved my way up. When I hire, I don't even look at the education portion of the resume, I simply don't care. I'm sure that's partly because I never went to college myself, but it's also because I've seen too many people get through college and are still complete morons when they come out. When I look at resumes I look at their actual job experience.
ViviTheMage
Lifer
and for some people the only way in, is through an education.
IGBT
Lifer
..TaxPayers are bent over a barrel paying taxes with the lions share going towards education. Top heavy admin.is soaking up most of the dollars and the dollar to education performance ratio gets worse every year. If you want cheaper higher quality education do something about the parasitic admin.
illusion88
Lifer
That's not a quadruple post.... he posted a different reply in each post. Which community college did you say you attended?
EricMartello
Senior member
You'd also probably not need the jobs you have to pay the bills you got from going to school to get the jobs you have. 🙂
If you are actually good at something, you can find work that pays $15-$20/hr solely on your abilities and experience...that's how I got started back when I was 20. I don't think it's an option for many people tho...good luck with your future.
You don't need a separate post for each reply, especially since each reply is a single sentence. Most forums have rules against chain posting like that even if they are unique replies.
Jeff7
Lifer
All of the engineering stuff? What about civil, chemical, or nuclear? I recall reading that main campus had some kind of nuclear reactor available to them. If we've got one of those, I sure as hell haven't seen it. 😉
Concerning the "95% bullshit," I guess it depends on the job. GE seems like the first place that a lot of fresh grads go because it's right there, and it's a big name. But most people are only there for a year or so before they burn-out from the place, and go elsewhere. Two guys who graduated in 2003 and 2004 were there on Friday, talking to a professor, who's now my supervisor for work-study.
They're working up in New England somewhere, and they seem to be doing a lot of real engineering work every day. One was working on some silicon wafer alignment thing, accurate to a few microns. I don't remember what the other one does. But the first one even mentioned that he still uses a few of his textbooks on a regular basis. It sounded like they'd done nicely in terms of finding good employment that is regularly using what they learned at Penn State.
But GE - "burnout" is the one word I always hear associated with working there. I have no intentions of finding out personally. I've got more of a European work ethic - work to live, not live to work.
I've heard stories from other people who have gone from engineering to business, and are amazed at the reduction in the workload. It seems that some 4 year engineering degrees are finding themselves getting pushed into 5 years, simply because of the sheer quantity of material that needs to be covered. It's amusing too to cover certain topics where the professor says, "We're going to spend a week on this, but it's just an overview. I took an entire graduate course that covered only this subject."
Jeff7
Lifer
Damn. We could use the nuclear reactor to keep the REDC building warm in the winter. 😀
And while they're at it, hook it up to a dehumidification system. As a work study, one of my tasks is to rub WD-40 onto a lot of the measurement equipment. Every damn bit of exposed steel in that place is rusting.
And while they're at it, hook it up to a dehumidification system. As a work study, one of my tasks is to rub WD-40 onto a lot of the measurement equipment. Every damn bit of exposed steel in that place is rusting.
I went to a small, expensive, private school for undergrad and a large, cheap, state school for grad work. The experiences were very different.
At the private school they had this seminar class where every week a different professor would come in, tell you all about his work, and then about positions in his lab or areas he could use student help in and whatnot. The school would pay the researching student's stipend and took pains to make sure they weren't being used for just dumb labor. All this just to get the students involved in research early on and actually practicing their fields. There was tons of stuff at the private school like that. Super available deans who were always around to listen, etc..
The public school was the complete opposite. Yes, you could still do original research with professors, but you had to hunt them down and convince them to spend their grant money on you if you needed a stipend. Overall the school lavished much less attention on you and you had to put in effort to do what was natural, encouraged, and greased with money at the private school.
At the private school they had this seminar class where every week a different professor would come in, tell you all about his work, and then about positions in his lab or areas he could use student help in and whatnot. The school would pay the researching student's stipend and took pains to make sure they weren't being used for just dumb labor. All this just to get the students involved in research early on and actually practicing their fields. There was tons of stuff at the private school like that. Super available deans who were always around to listen, etc..
The public school was the complete opposite. Yes, you could still do original research with professors, but you had to hunt them down and convince them to spend their grant money on you if you needed a stipend. Overall the school lavished much less attention on you and you had to put in effort to do what was natural, encouraged, and greased with money at the private school.
blinky8225
Senior member
And you can't spell college, so what?
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