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Why don't other golfers lash out at the media about Tiger nut fondling?

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actually, tiger is balck, thus his instincts for the golf sport is superior to whites. If more blacks joined the PGA, then tiger wouldnt be so special. Actually, Hockey and male tennis are revered by many as the last bastion of white male supremeacy, but when blacks enter those sports too, then all white male athletes will be a joke.
 
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Tiger is golf's most marketable person. Without him, they are as unpopular/uncool as polo players.
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Your nuts, I've been watching golf since the 60s and it has always been popular because it is a fun game to play especially if you play well. Golf doesn't need Tiger or anyone else to continue to be a fun and popular sport both on and off of TV.
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"You're"...and there's no denying what he's done for the game, good or bad. Other PGA pros have said similar comments, why can't you. Golf hasn't changed as a game, but in terms of market penetration and marketability, Tiger has single-handedly brought the game into the spotlight.
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Get bent ,golf was big long before Tiger. Maybe your spotlight.
 
Originally posted by: bonkers325
because Tiger Woods represents golf right now. w/o him, golf would still be an all-white sport 😛
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Calvin Peete, Jim Thorpe,Vijay Singh, Isao Aoki, there are others all pre-tiger. Woods represents golf for who? you. And race has nothing to do with this anyways.
 
Originally posted by: kinev
[ESPN]
"...in golfing news Tiger Woods finished at a disappointing 2 over today. He was quoted as saying, "This just wasn't my day. Sometimes you're on and sometimes you're not. That's how the game works." Tiger's drive was impressive as ever, but his short game seemed to suffer from the Florida heat. He shot for par, par, and a bogey on the last three holes. This may have something to do with his changing his club sponsorships. It is estimated that Tiger has earned eleventy billion extra dollars from sponsorships and promotions alone. Tiger was quoted as saying, "I think that what I am doing is good for golf. I bring it into the spotlight and I'm exposing a younger generation to the game."

Tiger should perform better in his next tournament. He has recorded two first place and a second place finish in the last four years. Analysts agree that part of Woods' problem today was that he did not eat enough fiber for breakfast. Dr. Gene Skallow, a noted intuitionalist/physiologist, analyzed Tiger's feces this afternoon to determine what he was eating. Dr. Skallow reports that "On days where Tiger eats at least 4 grams of fiber for breakfast, he has never finished below 4th place and he has won 48.3% of the tournaments he has played in." Tiger could not be reached for comments about his stool sample.

Oh yeah, Mickelson won the tournament....or something.
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you should email that to ESPN.
 
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: EvilYoda
Originally posted by: ManyBeers
Originally posted by: yankeesfan
Tiger is golf's most marketable person. Without him, they are as unpopular/uncool as polo players.
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Your nuts, I've been watching golf since the 60s and it has always been popular because it is a fun game to play especially if you play well. Golf doesn't need Tiger or anyone else to continue to be a fun and popular sport both on and off of TV.
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"You're"...and there's no denying what he's done for the game, good or bad. Other PGA pros have said similar comments, why can't you. Golf hasn't changed as a game, but in terms of market penetration and marketability, Tiger has single-handedly brought the game into the spotlight.
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Get bent ,golf was big long before Tiger. Maybe your spotlight.
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Then I guess you really don't understand or know what kind of viewership the networks had been gettting before Woods showed up on the scene or the impact he's had since beginning play and is someone who is on his way to do something that only Jack Nicklaus has done.....19 Majors in a lifetime.


This was from an article in 2001, into the huge winning of his playing run and just after he had his huge winning 2000 season:

New PGA Tour TV deals worth about $850M

By Howard Fendrich, The Associated Press

NEW YORK ?Tiger Woods' value to golf now has another number attached to it.


In deals driven largely by his popularity, the PGA Tour agreed to new TV packages that increase its take by hundreds of millions of dollars. The contracts with ABC, CBS, NBC, ESPN, USA and The Golf Channel, announced Monday, run from 2003-06.

They are worth about $850 million, according to two industry sources who spoke on condition of anonymity. That figure represents a roughly 45% hike from the tour's four-year television packages negotiated in 1997 and running from 1999-02.

Everyone involved has Woods to thank ? not least of all other golfers, who can look forward to more prize money.

En route to becoming the youngest player to win golf's career Grand Slam and the first to win four professional majors in a row, Woods has spiked interest in the sport.

PGA Tour events in which he played last year had TV ratings 65% higher than when he didn't play. Viewership was even higher when he was in contention.

And his millions of dollars in endorsement deals give golf plenty of extra mainstream publicity, much as Michael Jordan provided for the NBA.

"Tiger has increased the exposure for the game. That's great for golf, it's great for the tour, it's great for us," ESPN senior VP for programming John Wildhack said.
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Now, I wonder why the ESPN senior VP said Tiger has had a positive impact on viewership ratings when, obviously, you KNOW it hasn't. I guess you should really have straightened out that VP.....before he spent all that extra money in the new contracts while he ws under the delusion that Tiger brought in higher viewership. Oh, wait, CBS even shows higher viewership. Could it be you're worng, actually?


"When Tiger Woods enters a tournament and when he is in contention in the final round, we see a 30 to 50 percent increase over what is the 'normal' rating," said Neal Pilson, the head of a sports TV consulting company and former president of CBS Sports.

"He draws people who don't normally watch golf."

The numbers, as they say, don't lie.

When Woods won the 1997 Masters by a record 12 strokes, CBS showed 66 of his 69 final-round shots and earned a 14.1 rating -- the highest percentage of U.S. TV households to watch a Masters final round -- and a whopping 34 share. The share is the percentage of televisions tuned to a particular broadcast.

And last year? With Woods a mere afterthought, finishing tied for 18th at Augusta National behind winner Jose Maria Olazabal, CBS settled for a 10.1 rating with a 22 share Sunday.

Weekend TV ratings for all men's golf -- PGA Tour, Senior Tour and other tourneys -- were up 10 percent this year through last weekend, evidence of Woods' effect on the sport.

CBS' coverage of golf this year has averaged a 3.9 rating, higher than every year but one since 1987. CBS' golf broadcasts in 1996, the year before Woods emerged, averaged a 2.5 to this point in the season.

"I don't ever remember an athlete, whether it's in a team sport or individual sport, I guess with the exception of Michael Jordan, who can so dramatically affect the amount of people watching a tournament," CBS Sports president Sean McManus said. "It's true at the regular PGA Tour events and it's certainly true at the major events, also."

Woods' appeal -- based on his ability and charisma -- certainly extends beyond the majors.

When he failed in his bid to win a seventh straight PGA Tour event at February's Buick Invitational, the final-round ratings were higher than those for any U.S. Open or British Open in the past 15 years.

Woods has been in contention a lot lately, finishing first or second in 10 of 11 events heading to Augusta.

"Tiger's effect on golf is even greater than Michael Jordan's was on the NBA," McManus said. "His effect on television and the viewership of professional golf is almost impossible to overestimate."

Since Woods joined the PGA Tour in 1996, hundreds of millions of new dollars have flowed into golf, including increases in TV contracts -- the PGA Tour's TV deal, which started in 1999, is worth about twice the previous one -- and what advertisers pay for air time.

"His impact is mind-boggling," said Larry Novenstern, director of sports marketing at advertising agency BBDO. "His presence at a golf tournament drives the price (of commercials) up artificially."
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And I suppose a bunch of other VP's in advertising, the network (CBS) and ESPN also don't know beans about how Tiger has boosted popularity of golf.


Woods' popularity has been a boost to the sport, which has seen its average ratings pass the regular season average ratings for basketball and baseball the last two years.

The PGA's average TV ratings are 3.5 so far this year, compared with a 3.4 average last year and a 3.2 average in both 1998 and 1999. They were 3.0 in 1996, the first year for which such stats are available from Nielsen Media Research, and Woods' first season as pro. What at first appears to be modest growth now looks impressive as other sports' ratings have declined due to the growth of competing choices.

Each rating point is equal to about a million homes watching the program.

The major golf tournaments ? the Masters, U.S. Open, British Open and PGA Championship ? garner far better ratings, with last year's U.S. Open grabbing an average 5.7 rating, with an 8.1 rating on Sunday, when it was watched by just over a fifth of households with televisions on at that time.

"Last year at the U.S. Open he had a double-digit lead after the second round, they were speculating the ratings would go down because of no drama," said Kevin Sullivan, spokesman for NBC Sports, which is again airing the tournament. "It was the most viewed U.S. Open in history."

"A lot of new fans have been brought on the last few years," Sullivan added. "The sport is very healthy, growing in popularity. I don't think there's any reason to think it's maxed out at this point."

Barbara Zidovsky, vice president for Nielsen Sports Marketing, which tracks sports television ratings, agrees with Sullivan. She points out that when Michael Jordan was leading the Chicago Bulls to six championships over an eight-year period, its ratings grew. They fell off once Jordan retired, as have the ratings for all the major team sports in recent years.

"I think he (Woods) has a following similar to what Michael Jordan has," Zidovsky said. "Golf is bucking the trend (of declining sports viewership) because of Tiger. If he continues to play well, he'll continue to be appointment viewing."

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You ought to take a look at the viewership ratings since Tiger has joined and started winning.......impressive increases while NBA and MLB are declining.

And all this is only through 2001, since then Tiger has had a continued positive impact on the sport of golf......more so than anyone in any other sport has had. As mentioned, his impact is akin to Michael Jordan's impact on the NBA while he was playing.

You can also look at the little ripple of increased viewers for the Indy 500 this year because of Patrick......a lady/female with an at least decent chance to finish well. She'd qualified in the front row, never done by a lady before, and this sparked an interest in the 500 that had been rapidly declining over the last years since the IRL split with Champ Car/CART.

Now, golf popularity has always bee there for the true fans of the sport, but for the non-fan or the casual fan, Tiger Woods' entry into the sport, and his spectacular winning, has drawn them in.

This is much like Jordan in the NBA or the increase in popularity in tennis with John McEnroe. Cycling and the Tour de France, while very popular with hard-core bicyclists, was a nowhere sport and heard from very little until Lance Armstrong and his record 7 TdF wins in a row. I'd bet you've heard of Armstrong and know what he's done, but I'd also bet you couldn't name who won the TdF in the years prior.

It's always the same thing.....the true fanatic of the sport thinks the sport is and always has been popular....but in reality it usually takes an unusual player to appeal to the non-fan and get them into actually tuning in or traveling to a game/tournament. Such is the case with golf and Tiger.

 
Tiger definately brought the "bling" to golf...

Befor Tiger
1992:
1 -- Fred Couples 22 $1,344,188
2 -- Davis Love III 25 $1,191,630
3 -- John Cook 21 $1,165,606
4 -- Nick Price 26 $1,135,773
5 -- Corey Pavin 25 $980,934
1993:
1 -- Nick Price 18 $1,478,557
2 -- Paul Azinger 24 $1,458,456
3 -- Greg Norman 15 $1,359,653
4 -- Jim Gallagher, Jr. 27 $1,078,870
5 -- David Frost 22 $1,030,717
1994:
1 -- Nick Price 19 $1,499,927
2 -- Greg Norman 16 $1,330,307
3 -- Mark McCumber 20 $1,208,209
4 -- Tom Lehman 23 $1,031,144
5 -- Fuzzy Zoeller 19 $1,016,804
1995:
1 -- Greg Norman 16 $1,654,959
2 -- Billy Mayfair 28 $1,543,192
3 -- Lee Janzen 28 $1,378,966
4 -- Corey Pavin 22 $1,340,079
5 -- Steve Elkington 21 $1,254,352
1996:
1 -- Tom Lehman 22 $1,780,159
2 -- Phil Mickelson 21 $1,697,799
3 -- Mark Brooks 29 $1,429,396
4 -- Steve Stricker 22 $1,383,739
5 -- Mark O'Meara 21 $1,255,749
Tiger Era
1997:
1 -- Tiger Woods 21 $2,066,833
2 -- David Duval 29 $1,885,308
3 -- Davis Love III 25 $1,635,953
4 -- Jim Furyk 27 $1,619,480
5 -- Justin Leonard 29 $1,587,531
1998:
1 -- David Duval 23 $2,591,031
2 -- Vijay Singh 26 $2,238,998
3 -- Jim Furyk 28 $2,054,334
4 -- Tiger Woods 20 $1,841,117
5 -- Hal Sutton 30 $1,838,740
1999:
1 -- Tiger Woods 21 $6,616,585
2 -- David Duval 21 $3,641,906
3 -- Davis Love III 23 $2,475,328
4 -- Vijay Singh 29 $2,283,233
5 -- Chris Perry 31 $2,145,707
2000:
1 -- Tiger Woods 20 $9,188,321
2 -- Phil Mickelson 23 $4,746,457
3 -- Ernie Els 20 $3,469,405
4 -- Hal Sutton 25 $3,061,444
5 -- Vijay Singh 26 $2,573,835
2001:
1 -- Tiger Woods 19 $5,687,777
2 -- Phil Mickelson 23 $4,403,883
3 -- David Toms 28 $3,791,595
4 -- Vijay Singh 26 $3,440,829
5 -- Davis Love III 20 $3,169,463
2002:
1 -- Tiger Woods 18 $6,912,625
2 -- Phil Mickelson 26 $4,311,971
3 -- Vijay Singh 28 $3,756,563
4 -- David Toms 27 $3,459,739
5 -- Ernie Els 18 $3,291,895
2003:
1 1 Vijay Singh 27 $7,573,907
2 2 Tiger Woods 18 $6,673,413
3 3 Davis Love III 23 $6,081,896
4 4 Jim Furyk 27 $5,182,865
5 5 Mike Weir 21 $4,918,910
2004:
1 1 Vijay Singh 29 $10,905,166
2 2 Ernie Els 16 $5,787,225
3 3 Phil Mickelson 22 $5,784,823
4 4 Tiger Woods 19 $5,365,472
5 5 Stewart Cink 28 $4,450,270
2005:
1 1 Tiger Woods 16 $7,292,674
2 2 Vijay Singh 23 $6,954,003
3 3 Phil Mickelson 17 $5,568,775
4 5 David Toms 20 $3,521,213
5 4 Jim Furyk 21 $3,508,435

Afro+Asian=Dominance 🙂

what the white man always feared...

Brains+Brawn=you lose! 😛
 
I can't believe no one has mentioned Elin. Obviously, the reporters all want to ask the other players if they've seen the shots of Elin posing in the nude, and figure they have to bring up Tiger first. 😛
 
Originally posted by: Patt
I can't believe no one has mentioned Elin. Obviously, the reporters all want to ask the other players if they've seen the shots of Elin posing in the nude, and figure they have to bring up Tiger first. 😛
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who is this Elin you speak of?

edit: nm, that's his hawt wife 😛
 
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