Why don't more cameras like the Fuji X70 exist?

[gus6464]

A configuration like this is basically the perfect for the majority of people out there. I have an a6000 and 99.9% of the time I am using my Zeiss Sonnar T 24mm on it. Put an APS-C sensor on a compact body and use a fixed lens with 35mm equiv focal length. You get all the performance of a mirrorless/dslr on a pocketable camera.

If Sony took the guts of my a6000 and glued on a smaller zeiss 24mm lens on it, presented in a smaller size with a $1000 price on it, it would sell like hotcakes.

 

[CuriousMike]

You mean like the Nikon Coolpix A that failed?

That camera had a killer lens on it.

 

[ElFenix]

same problem with any similar camera nowadays: it's too big to be pants pocketable so you might as well get an interchangable lens camera because you're spending that much money ($700). for $715 i can get an EPL6 and a panasonic 14/2.5 and the kit lens and a long zoom lens. or for $750 i can get an EPL6 and the kit lens and an olympus 17/1.8.

with the pana 14/2.5 or oly 17/2.8 the u4/3 camera isn't going to be much bigger than the fuji.

or if i didn't want to have all those lenses but still wanted some zoom flexibility i could get an LX100 (and based on the samples on DPreview, i'd rather have the LX100 at all sensitivity settings - sure, there's more noise, but there's also more detail).


we're a long ways gone from the days of a yashica T4 super or olympus stylus epic. those were cheap cameras with good lenses and they took the same film as an EOS 1 or an F4, so had the same noise performance.

have to wonder whether those lenses would stand up if you put a modern sensor behind them.

 

[CuriousMike]

have to wonder whether those lenses would stand up if you put a modern sensor behind them.

For the center of the lens, stopped down to f/8, probably.

But they'd fall apart at the corners and wide-open compared to most modern lens designs.

 

[Spoooon]

You mean like the Nikon Coolpix A that failed?

That camera had a killer lens on it.

I have one, love it. Great to pocket when I don't feel like messing with my other cameras.

 

[CuriousMike]

I have one, love it. Great to pocket when I don't feel like messing with my other cameras.

One of these days I'll own a Coolpix A.

 

[Spoooon]

One of these days I'll own a Coolpix A.

It's sweet. Pocketable, but only because I wear khakis or cargo shorts. Keep the dream alive.

I prowled fredmiranda.com for months waiting for one to pop up.

Another good one is the Ricoh GR.

 

[Syborg1211]

A configuration like this is basically the perfect for the majority of people out there. I have an a6000 and 99.9% of the time I am using my Zeiss Sonnar T 24mm on it. Put an APS-C sensor on a compact body and use a fixed lens with 35mm equiv focal length. You get all the performance of a mirrorless/dslr on a pocketable camera.

If Sony took the guts of my a6000 and glued on a smaller zeiss 24mm lens on it, presented in a smaller size with a $1000 price on it, it would sell like hotcakes.

The problem with fixed lens cameras is that everyone has their own focal length preferences. Some people cannot live without zoom capabilities, some prefer wider angles, some prefer telephoto, and some prefer "normal" focal lengths. When you put out a fixed lens camera you are right off the bat alienating a good portion of the camera customer base. Most are 35 or 28mm because these lengths have a large following. A 24mm on a crop sensor would effectively be like a 36mm. So what's wrong with the X100T that's a 35mm effective focal length?

 

[Wonderful Pork]

A configuration like this is basically the perfect for the majority of people out there. I have an a6000 and 99.9% of the time I am using my Zeiss Sonnar T 24mm on it. Put an APS-C sensor on a compact body and use a fixed lens with 35mm equiv focal length. You get all the performance of a mirrorless/dslr on a pocketable camera.

If Sony took the guts of my a6000 and glued on a smaller zeiss 24mm lens on it, presented in a smaller size with a $1000 price on it, it would sell like hotcakes.

I have the X100T and love it, I think it was $1200 new when I bought it (soon after release). I've taken it throughout the US and Europe and the pictures are great - though there are time times when I wish I could change the focal length to zoom in and compress the image/field of view. It holds up well to cropping but it doesn't look the same as a long focal length.

I would love for a full frame to come out similar to the X100T, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. I think the RX1 does this, but it hasn't been updated in a couple of years. When I'm not traveling by plane, I take my Nikon D5300 w/ Sigma 17-70 which is awesome for landscape and portrait.

 

[jtvang125]

I have the X100T and love it, I think it was $1200 new when I bought it (soon after release). I've taken it throughout the US and Europe and the pictures are great - though there are time times when I wish I could change the focal length to zoom in and compress the image/field of view. It holds up well to cropping but it doesn't look the same as a long focal length.

I would love for a full frame to come out similar to the X100T, I'd buy that in a heartbeat. I think the RX1 does this, but it hasn't been updated in a couple of years. When I'm not traveling by plane, I take my Nikon D5300 w/ Sigma 17-70 which is awesome for landscape and portrait.

There's been 3 iterations of the RX1 already. The original RX1, the RX1R and RX1R II, which just came out in November of last year.