Why Don't I See Much OCZ Ram???

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syberscott

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It seems to me that almost everybody on these boards is running Corsair memory for overclocking. OCZ ram is cheaper and faster, yet I don't see it very often. OCZ also does not have the Nforce2 problems that Corsair has.
This is just an observation of mine... I'm not trying to start anything... really.:) Feedback?
 
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bgeh

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Originally posted by: syberscott
It seems to me that almost everybody on these boards is running Corsair memory for overclocking. OCZ ram is cheaper and faster, yet I don't see it very often. OCZ also does not have the Nforce2 problems that Corsair has.
This is just an observation of mine... I'm not trying to start anything... really.:) Feedback?
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there were many problems with OCZ back then.
many people couldn't reach the memory's advertised limit
 
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tbates757

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OCZ is kindof "taboo" after the bad press that they got at the time (and deserved, mind you). I really think that a lot of people are starting to give them another chance after their outstanding new lines of products and actually friendly/honest tech support. I have seen on a few occasions somebody be unhappy with their PC3500 OCZ RAM, RMA it, and they quickly replaced it with a stick of PC3700 RAM.
 
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BigJ

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Won't touch it again.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

Let me elaborate: I've bought multiple sticks from their PC2400 > PC3000, and not one stick had worked to its advertised timings. So thank you very much, but I won't be buying them ever again.
 
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chizow

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Yep, as the others mentioned their products were suspect and their CS was non-existent. Many got burnt by RAM or products that didn't do what they were advertised to do, with no chance for recourse from OCZ. There were also some reports of being charged and never receiving product, then having to jump through hoops to get their money back.

Not only that, but they were basically running a pretty elaborate "Pyramid Scheme" with a bunch of bogus web-presences to hype and advertise their products. Internet fraud/dishonesty is a very scary thing, when all you have to instill customer trust is your reputation.

Chiz (never ordered from them, just observing)
 
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Ketchup

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Corsair is the best choice if you want to be safe and don't mind paying a little extra. I am very happy with my OCZ (it will run DDR 440 at CL2-6-3-3), but it's hard to tell if every piece they sell with do that. They are going to have to spend some more time as an honest company for people in general to feel comfortable buying their products.
 
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cowdog

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Never used OCZ, but I have read one 8RDA+ (nForce2) dedicated website (unofficial, of course) where they do not recommend OCZ memory for this motherboard. Not sure why.

In my mind, the question is about Twinmos memory. A lot of people seem be getting similar or better results as Corsair memory at significantly lower cost.
 
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syberscott

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Interesting... I had no idea that OCZ had this kind of reputation. I was only reading the reviews of the pc3200 and pc 3500 and it seems to rock. Anyhow, I'm getting an Nforce2 Epox board this week with a 2100 t-bred, but I can't afford the expensive ram yet anyways so I'll just have to make do with some pc2700 samsung ram for a while.
Thanks for bringing me up to speed on OCZ.
 
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chizow

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Originally posted by: syberscott
Interesting... I had no idea that OCZ had this kind of reputation. I was only reading the reviews of the pc3200 and pc 3500 and it seems to rock. Anyhow, I'm getting an Nforce2 Epox board this week with a 2100 t-bred, but I can't afford the expensive ram yet anyways so I'll just have to make do with some pc2700 samsung ram for a while.
Thanks for bringing me up to speed on OCZ.
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Yeah, the thing is, with any part sent to reviewers, the products are hand-picked. Companies obviously want to put their best foot forward; the problem is, the review results don't always mirror your results. Corsair has developed a reputation as having the most consistent performing parts in comparison to the reviews on their products. They also have a great RMA service, which can be rare in the memory industry. Very visible presence that translates into a high level of satisfaction from customers.

Twinmos is getting a lot of publicity b/c it uses the same Winbond 5ns modules found on Corsair XMS 3200/3500 dimms. Other than the "hand-picked" claim from Corsair, as well as the PCB and SPD, the chips would theoretically be able to accomplish similar speeds (which in many cases they do).

Chiz
 
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Soulkeeper

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i built a system with their 2700 stuff and it didn't hold it's advertised timings
 
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I have had a three week relationship with OCZ now, and I would have to say that it has been a very good experience. I bought one stick of 512mb 3500el from a local vendor. It did give me a few problems, so I ordered another stick from googlegear of the same stuff. It seemed even worse! I had a contact with the head guy at OCZ, so I shot him an e-mail. He called me on a Saturday afternoon (day after I emailed him) and I explained my story. TOld him it could be my fault, but I did not think so. He sent me out 2 sticks of the 3700 el which were at my vendor by Wednesday the next week. I echanged the sticks, and everything is fine now. The new sticks came in retail packaging, so I do not know if they were hand picked. I have opened one, and am able to do 464ddr at 2-2-5-2 right out of the box. They may have had prolems in the past, but I would say they are working hard at correcting it. Just my experience. (By the way, I did own one stick of their 2700 stuff awhile back and it ran just fine at the rated speed.)


PJ
 
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syberscott

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Isn't the 3700 ram rated for 466Mhz ddr? Then 464 should be no surprise.
You also had an inside contact to help you, most consumers do not.

Yesterday I thought OCZ ram was good, today my eyes have been opened.:eek:
 
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Ketchup

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Originally posted by: syberscott
Isn't the 3700 ram rated for 466Mhz ddr? Then 464 should be no surprise.
You also had an inside contact to help you, most consumers do not.

Yesterday I thought OCZ ram was good, today my eyes have been opened.:eek:
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They are rated to do CL 2.5, 6-3-3 out of the box, if I am not mistaken. Running 2-5-2-2 is VERY demanding on RAM and shows what a good piece PJ was able to get a hold of.
 
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RadDavy

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I had OCZ PC150 in my prior rig. It really did a good job so I considered them for DDR in the new setup but after not finding many reviews I decided to go with Corsair as well. I can be happy with a company that has a bad spell of products as long as they make it right.
 
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Smurfer

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I bought some 3500 dc el and have clocked this ram to advertised spec, remember OCZ cleaned house and have a new ceo so i think they're on the right track. I too were very hessitant at first but had to give them a second chance. This ram rocks sandra scores through the roof, and am really happy with my setup. But still undestand why people feel the way they do and can't blame them, their buisiness tactics were pretty bad, probably worse than the Enron situation in some cases.
 
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jpetermann

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3700 is rated to 466 at 2.5-3-3-6 as mentioned above. I was at my cpu's limit with this. Could not test it to go higher. I was happy with 2-2-2-5 at 464.

PJ

Originally posted by: syberscott
Isn't the 3700 ram rated for 466Mhz ddr? Then 464 should be no surprise.
You also had an inside contact to help you, most consumers do not.

Yesterday I thought OCZ ram was good, today my eyes have been opened.:eek:
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