Red Dawn
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Today most of the Harley Riders are Yuppie Scum and wearing a helmet clashes with their $1,000 Gypsy Leather Outfit they bought to accessorize with their bikes. Of course most Sport Bike Riders tend to be like TGG and full face helmets hide their dorkiness.
I've been riding for years and actually seen too many accidents that resulted with death to my friends, IMO, they would have fair better if they had full-face helmet and protective gear rather than t-shirt, jeans, sneakers and no helmet.
Furthermore, ask superbikes races, the GP 125, 250 and 500. They are flying with their bike and sometimes flew off the bike, but with full-face helmet and full protective gear, most of the times, they just walk away the crash.
I think DOT helmet could save life, we ought to do whatever we can as a preemptive measure.
I've posted this story in a previous thread about helmets, but I'll tell it again here. My friends father, who had been riding just about every type of motorcycle you can buy since he was 15 (he was 40+ when this happened) asked to take my two week old motorcycle out for a spin one day. Trusting his experience and maturity, I let him take it. For two or three minutes he searched and searched in his car for some eye protection because he didn't want to wear my full face helmet. Finally he settled on my helmet and I went to the store with my friend. As we drove down the street in town about 5 minutes later, the fire dept. and ambulance went screaming past us in the opposite direction. When we got back from the store, there was my mangled motorcycle with a similarly mangled full face helmet perched on my torn seat. The paramedics were patching him up on scene. Seems he went around a corner up the road and there was some sand settled in the curve which was both a low spot in the road and an uphill left hand turn coming up to a stop sign. He hit the sand, lost the rear tire, laid it down and hopped the curb, with the bike landing directly on his left leg, tearing he knee open. If you only saw this helmet. The face shield was cracked and the left side of the helmet was chewed up pretty good. I learned from that day forward the importance of wearing a helmet. I have two helmets now, a full face one for highway riding (bugs really, really hurt at 70+ MPH) and a shorty helmet (DOT approved) for cruising around town. Once in a while, I will go out on a nice slow country road and take my helmet off for a nice cool, breezy ride, but that's maybe 2-3 times a year at best and I'm very cautious when I'm riding. My wife always wears a helmet, when she rides her bike.
The data shows that although helmets do reduce some head injuries in a collision, they increase neck injuries.
Your head is already pretty heavy, when you wear a helmet you increase that weight be another couple of pounds.
Which means in an accident you are more likely to land on your head if wearing a helmet.
In addition, no helmet is rated in an impact test over 13mph.
Your head is already pretty heavy, when you wear a helmet you increase that weight be another couple of pounds.
Which means in an accident you are more likely to land on your head if wearing a helmet.
In addition, no helmet is rated in an impact test over 13mph.
The Stigenator
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i wear a full face helmet and when I crashed in 2001 i not only didnt injure myself but i didnt scratch the helmet, I knew how to get off the bike with least injuries (I have fallen so many times when i was younger).
Anyway the point is helmet no matter how hot it is, I wear my full face helmet + protective gear.. i rather have the gear get replaced than skin grafts. I make my girl wear my open face 3/4 spare helmet and it has a face shield. She doesnt ride with me that often.. but even so that helmet is better than a beanie.
Anyway the point is helmet no matter how hot it is, I wear my full face helmet + protective gear.. i rather have the gear get replaced than skin grafts. I make my girl wear my open face 3/4 spare helmet and it has a face shield. She doesnt ride with me that often.. but even so that helmet is better than a beanie.
I was saying because it gets freaking hot under them, until I saw that u talk about motorcycles 
Dunno though, are they not wearing helmets? I havent seen (motor)bikers without helmets yet, but maybe that is because A) the law requires them to wear a helmets and B) ppl are actually smart enough to realize the benefit of wearing a helmet.
Anyway it is fruitless to ask why - maybe they think it is cool, maybe they get to lay blondes, maybe they think their penis gets bigger from the airpressure on the mouth or maybe the just dont think at all.
I heard there are ppl not wearing seatbelts - why? - maybe they like life risky
Dunno though, are they not wearing helmets? I havent seen (motor)bikers without helmets yet, but maybe that is because A) the law requires them to wear a helmets and B) ppl are actually smart enough to realize the benefit of wearing a helmet.
Anyway it is fruitless to ask why - maybe they think it is cool, maybe they get to lay blondes, maybe they think their penis gets bigger from the airpressure on the mouth or maybe the just dont think at all.
I heard there are ppl not wearing seatbelts - why? - maybe they like life risky
Hmm, I guess the gov't should try to protect you from your own stupidity. Sure freedom of choice is all good, except when those choices start affecting other people. Friends, family... etc.
Personally, I wouldn't ride a motorcycle even with a helmet + protection in my area... so many inattentive drivers and more than a few that admit to being purposefully inattentive (talking on cell phone in one hand, driving with the other despite laws against such). Seat belt in the car... it goes without saying. It doesn't feel right to me if I don't drive properly strapped in.
Yeah, there really are no good arguments against helmets. Even if there were no studies, just think about it...which seems safer, having a hardened shell around your head 24/7, or going "free" and hitting the pavement at any decent speed?
I will say that I do not wear protective clothing other than gloves and boots. However, the reason for that being I can't afford it at the moment, heh. As soon as I get myself a job for the summer and save up $200-300, you'd better believe the jacket's mine. Until then, seeing as how I don't have a car, I'll just have to pray that the oh so intelligent Georgia driving crowd doesn't kill me.
I will say that I do not wear protective clothing other than gloves and boots. However, the reason for that being I can't afford it at the moment, heh. As soon as I get myself a job for the summer and save up $200-300, you'd better believe the jacket's mine. Until then, seeing as how I don't have a car, I'll just have to pray that the oh so intelligent Georgia driving crowd doesn't kill me.
unfortunately the gov't does need to protect much of the general population from it's own stupidity...
However, then you start infringing on civil liberties. IMO the gov't should protect all of the smokers from smoking but it just isn't feasible.I always wear:
My Helmet : Nolan N100
My Backprotector : Spidi Airframe
My Gloves: Acerbis
My Jacket : Spidi MT3
My Boots : Alpinestar Vector
Driving a bike without helmet is just stupid.
My Helmet : Nolan N100
My Backprotector : Spidi Airframe
My Gloves: Acerbis
My Jacket : Spidi MT3
My Boots : Alpinestar Vector
Driving a bike without helmet is just stupid.
0roo0roo
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when you flip around u tend to hit the ground on the way down..flipping, bouncing/sliding off the road before coming to a stop.. shredding your protective gear or your skin on the long slide. accidents tend to have you flying around, not hitting brick walls and coming to a stop instantly.. which would um suck. but most safety devices are useless in the worst case scenario. if you head on with an 18 wheeler at 65mph, your air bag/seatbelt is gonna do ziltch. but does that mean its useless? course not, in most accidents you'd survive cuz of it.
A word to those of your wearing helmets. From what I understand they tend to be a one time use thing. By that I mean that if you are in an accident with your helment and/or your helmet hits something with any decent impact, get a new helmet as you have just created a weak spot in your helmet's inner foam material and if you hit that same spot again you can say "Yay....I got brain damage"
They claim to be non conformist but they all wear the same uniform, you have to live up to the standard form of non conformity to be a standard non conformist.
Bleep
I enjoy the riders with the t-shirts, shorts, sandals, backpack and a $500 shiny Arai on their head.
When you ride you need to wear full leathers, boots, gloves and a full face helmet at all times. If it's too hot to wear these then it's too hot to ride. The injury/death rate is simply too high to pass on the proper safety apparel. Of course, all the equipment in the world won't save your a$$ if you can't ride your bike properly and it's much easier to get in trouble than with a car.
When you ride you need to wear full leathers, boots, gloves and a full face helmet at all times. If it's too hot to wear these then it's too hot to ride. The injury/death rate is simply too high to pass on the proper safety apparel. Of course, all the equipment in the world won't save your a$$ if you can't ride your bike properly and it's much easier to get in trouble than with a car.
That is correct. I have my dads helmet and there is a slight soft spot where he went through teh side window of the van.
He got a new helmet and teh other person insurance got hime a new helmet and a new $600 jacket.
Jesus Christ! I can't believe all the stupid responses in this thread.
There's only one reason why bikers don't wear helmets. It's more enjoyable when you're riding without a helmet. And there's only one reason why helmets should be mandated. For prevention of accidents, not to save lives. The helmet laws are bullsh!t enacted by nanny-staters. If there's going to be a helmet law, it should be the law that helmets are required with a faceshield; anything less is just more mad-mother legislation.
I rode for more than 10 years without a helmet. The last bike I had was when the helmet law just came into effect in Califoria. I finally started riding with a full-face helmet with shield. I figured if I had to wear one I might as well wear one that might actually prevent an accident. Catching a rock or other debris in the face at 80 or 90 miles an hour (my standard highway speed) is never a good thing.
If you're going to have a helmet law, the least you could do is have one that makes sense. The saving lives mantra is complete bs. That's why you should wear one personally, but it's not why helmet laws should be enacted.
There's only one reason why bikers don't wear helmets. It's more enjoyable when you're riding without a helmet. And there's only one reason why helmets should be mandated. For prevention of accidents, not to save lives. The helmet laws are bullsh!t enacted by nanny-staters. If there's going to be a helmet law, it should be the law that helmets are required with a faceshield; anything less is just more mad-mother legislation.
I rode for more than 10 years without a helmet. The last bike I had was when the helmet law just came into effect in Califoria. I finally started riding with a full-face helmet with shield. I figured if I had to wear one I might as well wear one that might actually prevent an accident. Catching a rock or other debris in the face at 80 or 90 miles an hour (my standard highway speed) is never a good thing.
If you're going to have a helmet law, the least you could do is have one that makes sense. The saving lives mantra is complete bs. That's why you should wear one personally, but it's not why helmet laws should be enacted.
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