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Why doesnt the government mandate or subsidize daycare?

Texashiker

Texashiker

Lifer
If the government truly wanted to help the middle class, why not subsidize daycare?

I know families that are forced to make a decision, the mom stay at home with the children, or pay just about everything she makes to daycare.

My step daughter was working for a local doctors office. When she added everything up, just about every penny she made was going to daycare. What incentive do people in that situation have to stay in the work force?

I hate to say this, but when the mother stops working, their income level drops so that the family could draw food stamps. With 2 children, my step daughter was right at the border of drawing food stamps.

Should the government subsidize daycare and let people work, or subsidize food stamps and let people stay home?

At least in the work force they are paying something in social security, hopefully paying something into medicare/medicaid and contributing something to society.
 
They subsidize it.... it is called "pre-k education." In Tennessee if you can afford it, you pay $700-1000/month to have a child in pre-k. If you cannot afford it you send them to the public pre-k program.
 
Ages 1-3 are not covered usually as a pre-K.

Most want the child to be potty trained.

Not all states provide pre-K and some that do; it is more only for 1/2 day
 
It seems to me that women (and single dads) are locked into a trap of poverty.

How is a single mom that works a full time job supposed to go to college if she does not have help with the children?

Most daycare facilities close at say 6pm? So that rules out taking night classes at the local college.
 
Texashiker said:
It seems to me that women (and single dads) are locked into a trap of poverty.

How is a single mom that works a full time job supposed to go to college if she does not have help with the children?
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And this is why you should only have children in marriage.

What you really want is a subsidization of feminism.
 
Government run anything becomes more expensive as layers of overhead, waste, fiefdoms and mandates are added.

If the government is going to get into it; they just need to expand the day care credit to be a higher number. Presently the max is $5K. Most daycare will run $200-$500/week depending on the age of the child and the facility.

So the max the government now is subsidizing is 50% and potentially down to only 20%.

And change the credit to be tied to a providers Tax number; not a SS #.
Providers are then required to send to Uncle the SS number of the parent and the amount paid (reverse 1099).

That prevents SM1 with 2 children from "sending" the kids to her sister (SM2) and her sister "sending" 2 children to SM1.
Both then claim the credit for 2 kids.
 
nehalem256 said:
And this is why you should only have children in marriage.

What you really want is a subsidization of feminism.
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No - what you want is an opportunity for a single mother to get back on her feet is she desires.

Many single mothers are because of a husband/boyfriend that refused to be responsible once she became pregnant.

And you also have the situation of a single father; the mother ups and leaves because she can not handle the responsibility/pressure of being a mother and wife.
 
EagleKeeper said:
If the government is going to get into it; they just need to expand the day care credit to be a higher number. Presently the max is $5K. Most daycare will run $200-$500/week depending on the age of the child and the facility.
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This should be eliminated. It is not the business of the government to subsidize people's life choices.

Tax credits should stop being used as backdoor welfare programs.
 
EagleKeeper said:
No - what you want is an opportunity for a single mother to get back on her feet is she desires.

Many single mothers are because of a husband/boyfriend that refused to be responsible once she became pregnant.
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So she should have gotten an abortion.

Or picked a guy who was not going to leave her. And if it was her boyfriend then he was just exercising his choice over his life.

I am not responsible because someone decided to mate with trash.
 
nehalem256 said:
It is not the business of the government to subsidize people's life choices.
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Most people do not make a decision to live in poverty.

We have the food stamp and public housing programs, but neither one helps lift the families out of poverty.


nehalem256 said:
So she should have gotten an abortion.
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Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? You are nothing more then a troll.

Go away troll.

Come back when you get some real life experiences. How old are you, 17, 18, 19??
 
Texashiker said:
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? You are nothing more then a troll.

Go away troll.

Come back when you get some real life experiences. How old are you, 17, 18, 19??
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Liberals think there is no issue with abortion.

If someone is unable to care for a child why shouldnt they get an abortion?
 
Texashiker said:
If the government truly wanted to help the middle class, why not subsidize daycare?
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Isn't the government broke enough without adding more burdens on the rest of us? And I have to agree with others - your decision to have kids does not create a new burden on me to pay for YOUR kids. Paying for my own kids is burden enough for now.
 
nehalem256 said:
If someone is unable to care for a child why shouldnt they get an abortion?
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You are nothing more then a troll. Come back when you have kids of your own.

This thread has nothing to do with before the child is born.

Sometimes things happen in life, such as a company closing, retraining, furthering a persons education, working a second job,,,.
 
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nehalem256 said:
If someone is unable to care for a child why shouldnt they get an abortion?
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This thread is not about "before" the baby is born.

Troll, as you grow and mature, you will learn that life throws a curve ball from time to time.

There might be a time when you want to go to college for some extra training, or take a second job to get caught up on bills.

For those who are willing to work, why shouldn't society facilitate them?
 
Texashiker said:
If the government truly wanted to help the middle class, why not subsidize daycare?

I know families that are forced to make a decision, the mom stay at home with the children, or pay just about everything she makes to daycare.

My step daughter was working for a local doctors office. When she added everything up, just about every penny she made was going to daycare. What incentive do people in that situation have to stay in the work force?

I hate to say this, but when the mother stops working, their income level drops so that the family could draw food stamps. With 2 children, my step daughter was right at the border of drawing food stamps.

Should the government subsidize daycare and let people work, or subsidize food stamps and let people stay home?

At least in the work force they are paying something in social security, hopefully paying something into medicare/medicaid and contributing something to society.
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Let me guess, the highly successful (Jack in the Box) father of your grandchild can't provide enough support so that's now falling on you. So in turn you think everyone else should pitch in and help you.
 
Londo_Jowo said:
Let me guess, the highly successful (Jack in the Box) father of your grandchild can't provide enough support so that's now falling on you. So in turn you think everyone else should pitch in and help you.
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As I recall the father could get a job making 17/hr. But the job was too much hard work for him :\

*smallest violin in the world*
 
Texashiker said:
This thread is not about "before" the baby is born.

Troll, as you grow and mature, you will learn that life throws a curve ball from time to time.

There might be a time when you want to go to college for some extra training, or take a second job to get caught up on bills.

For those who are willing to work, why shouldn't society facilitate them?
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lol. Not likely. Its called not getting girls pregnant until after you have a good job.
 
nehalem256 said:
If they lose their jobs they obviously wont need state subsidized day care right?
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Ever hear of retraining?

Ever hear of going to college at nights?

Ever hear of working 2 jobs?

Troll, come back when you have some real life experiences to pull from.

From 1995 - 1999 I worked a full time 40 - 50 hour a week job and went to college at night. Good thing my wife was able to watch the kids in the evening.
 
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