Why doesn't the Big 10 make an all-out push to add Oklahoma and ND?

[rcpratt]

Whether or not money will eventually trump the sticking point that is Notre Dame's religious affiliation, only time will tell. Notre Dame is a good fit academically for the Big Ten, below Northwestern, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Illinois and above the rest of the conference. Nebraska was pushing it academically, and OU is definitely not up to Big Ten academic standards.

One could argue several of those, but it's probably not worth it.

 

[Drako]

One could argue several of those, but it's probably not worth it.

One could also argue about "religious affiliation being a sticking point" as well, but it's definitely not worth it .

 

[Gigantopithecus]

One could argue several of those, but it's probably not worth it.

Mostly because the arguments would be poor. Look at the rankings, no matter their varied methodologies.

One could also argue about "religious affiliation being a sticking point" as well, but it's definitely not worth it .

Yes, I'm sure your years on multiple Big Ten campuses and countless conversations with various administrators give you tremendous insight into the topic.

 

[ElFenix]

Ahem...

OU leads all public universities nationwide in freshman National Merit Scholars enrolled. The Princeton Review ranks OU in its top 10 public schools in the nation in terms of academic value. And this year, OU became the state's first public institution to achieve the Carnegie Foundation's highest tier of research activity classification.

yeah i've seen that commercial during the football games as well. aggy is still better than sooner academically. don't get me wrong, boren has done a really good job making norman community college into a halfway decent school, but you're not kansas, you're certainly not texas, and you've got your half retarded little brother that your legislature is going to saddle you with wherever you go (iirc you went to that school too :hmm

 

[Drako]

Yes, I'm sure your years on multiple Big Ten campuses and countless conversations with various administrators give you tremendous insight into the topic.

Why don't you enlighten us, oh mighty Badger Blowhard

This issue comes up everytime Notre Dame is mentioned, and is the main reason they not an AAU member.

 

[jaha2000]

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I'm happy the way the Big Ten is now. I'd rather have the CCHA dissolved so hockey follows the arrangement of football, hoops, etc.

Those big ten schools tired of getting their butts kicked buy Mac schools in the ccha come tourney time?

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Why don't you enlighten us, oh mighty Badger Blowhard

This issue comes up everytime Notre Dame is mentioned, and is the main reason they not an AAU member.

They not an AAU member main reason is Notre Dame in Big Ten not?

Call me a blowhard, at least I'm not a semi-literate no-connect. Back in Michigan we call them Walmart Wolverines - does Ohio instead have Big Lots Buckeyes?

 

[Drako]

They not an AAU member main reason is Notre Dame in Big Ten not?

Call me a blowhard, at least I'm not a semi-literate no-connect. Back in Michigan we call them Walmart Wolverines - does Ohio instead have Big Lots Buckeyes?

You are semi literate - I have now idea what that first sentence above means

 

[Gigantopithecus]

Those big ten schools tired of getting their butts kicked buy Mac schools in the ccha come tourney time?

ROFL. Michigan and Michigan State have more CCHA Tournament wins than all of the MAC schools combined despite having joined the conference a decade after it was formed.

 

[jaha2000]

ROFL. Michigan and Michigan State have more CCHA Tournament wins than all of the MAC schools combined despite having joined the conference a decade after it was formed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBtcM_uj5zQ

That will never get old! Wonder what ever happend to that guy.

Mich and Mich state have dominated the league as of late for sure. I was nice the last few years that there was bit more parity in the league.

They are going to all end up in the WCHA after the CCHA goes away in a couple of years

 

[CPA]

WTF, Pitt seriously?

How about Syracuse or Rutgers?

Rutgers is irrelavent, no matter what those morons want to believe.

Syracuse is a better fit, however, I personally believe the BE will stay intact, actually adding UK, KState and either Mizzou or Baylor when all is said and done.

 

[CPA]

yeah i've seen that commercial during the football games as well. aggy is still better than sooner academically. don't get me wrong, boren has done a really good job making norman community college into a halfway decent school, but you're not kansas, you're certainly not texas, and you've got your half retarded little brother that your legislature is going to saddle you with wherever you go (iirc you went to that school too :hmm

Yeah, but that half retarded little brother has a rich-ass best friend by the name of T Boone Pickens.

 

[rcpratt]

Mostly because the arguments would be poor. Look at the rankings, no matter their varied methodologies

I looked at several before posting, but I was mostly just giving you a hard time.

 

[lykaon78]

OU would be a tremendous pick-up for the Big Ten.
ND would be a tremendous pick-up for the Big Ten.
Syracuse would be a tremendous pick-up for the Big Ten.

What do they all have in common? $$$

Syracuse especially would boost the B10 network in the New York market. Thats some significant revenue by itself. Relevant or not as a football team, ND brings the national audience and the revenue with it. Oklahoma is actually the least financially attractive of the three.

 

[Drako]

OU would be a tremendous pick-up for the Big Ten.
ND would be a tremendous pick-up for the Big Ten.
Syracuse would be a tremendous pick-up for the Big Ten.

What do they all have in common? $$$

Syracuse especially would boost the B10 network in the New York market. Thats some significant revenue by itself. Relevant or not as a football team, ND brings the national audience and the revenue with it. Oklahoma is actually the least financially attractive of the three.

:thumbsup:

Like it or not, it's pretty much all about who will add the most revenue to BTN/B1G.

OU comes with the Okie State baggage (see T. Boone Pickens), so it's not so attractive to B1G and/or BTN.

ND has rejected offers from the B1G several times since 1990. B1G seems to be keeping the offer open. ND has a very large national TV market which is very attractive to BTN, and therefore B1G.

Syracuse (and/or Rutgers) would certainly boost the BTN market in NYC/NJ area, which is a HUGE TV market.

 

[shiner]

yeah i've seen that commercial during the football games as well. aggy is still better than sooner academically. don't get me wrong, boren has done a really good job making norman community college into a halfway decent school, but you're not kansas, you're certainly not texas, and you've got your half retarded little brother that your legislature is going to saddle you with wherever you go (iirc you went to that school too :hmm

I have degrees from both. :biggrin:

Yeah, wherever OU goes, so goes OSU. We always end up having to bring little brother along. I'm not sure he's half retarded though, just Autistic.

 

[some_guy]

I am happy that the team I feel connected to is in the Big Ten. I like that there are so many good sports programs and that the football season isn't just one or two big games. My sense is that there is sportsmanship. There isn't this dirty "hurt people" play. There is a sense of brotherhood. My impression is that while the Big Ten does have good financial support, there is much more to it than money.

 

[bignateyk]

I am happy that the team I feel connected to is in the Big Ten. I like that there are so many good sports programs and that the football season isn't just one or two big games. My sense is that there is sportsmanship. There isn't this dirty "hurt people" play. There is a sense of brotherhood. My impression is that while the Big Ten does have good financial support, there is much more to it than money.

wait.. what?